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Snow eating now endangered kid pleasure
AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/4/08 | Melissa Rayworth - ap

Posted on 03/04/2008 1:53:50 PM PST by NormsRevenge

PITTSBURGH - To the list of simple childhood pleasures whose safety has been questioned, add this: eating snow. A recent study found that snow — even in relatively pristine spots like Montana and the Yukon — contains large amounts of bacteria.

Parents who warn their kids not to eat dirty snow (especially the yellow variety) are left wondering whether to stop them from tasting the new-fallen stuff, too, because of Pseudomonas syringae, bacteria that can cause diseases in bean and tomato plants.

But experts say there's no need to banish snow-eating along with dodgeball, unchaperoned trick-or-treating and riding a bike without a helmet.

"It's a very ubiquitous bacteria that's everywhere," says Dr. Penelope Dennehy, a member of the American Academy of Pediatrics' committee on infectious diseases. "Basically, none of the food we eat is sterile. We eat bacteria all the time."

Children practically bathe in bacteria when they go to the playground, and Dennehy says they won't get anything from snow that they wouldn't get from dirt.

"We eat stuff that's covered with bacteria all the time, and for the most part it's killed in the stomach," says Dr. Joel Forman, a member of the pediatric academy's committee on environmental health. "Your stomach is a fantastic barrier against invasive bacteria because it's a very acidic environment."

There are exceptions. "Tiny kids on formula a lot of times don't have the acid in their stomachs," making them more vulnerable to bacteria in general, says Dr. Lynnette Mazur, a professor of pediatrics at the University of Texas Medical School. Also, Forman and Mazur say that Pseudomonas can be a threat to people with cystic fibrosis.

The study, published last week in the journal Science, didn't examine the effects on people. And "I can say that I'm not aware of any clinical reports of children becoming ill from eating snow. And I looked," Forman says.

In any case, because of ordinary air pollution in snow, it's probably wise not to eat a lot of the stuff, pediatricians say. For parents in search of guidance, Mazur offers this: Licking a little snow off a glove is probably OK. "A meal of snow" is not.

Some parents say they are not going to worry about their kids eating snow that looks clean.

"My snow-eating concerns are generally more of the dirt-urine variety," says Kristin Lang, 37, of Maplewood, N.J., whose 2-year-old son Charlie has swallowed his share of snow.

"When I heard bacteria, at first I went 'eew,'" says Tricia Sweeney, a mother of three in Cornwall-on-Hudson, N.Y. But as long as the kids eat snow as it's falling, "I think it's OK. I tell them not to eat it if it's on the ground."

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: eating; endangered; foodpolice; health; pleasure; snow; winter
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To: NormsRevenge

My kids - age 21 and 15 - have never ever eaten snow.

Of course we live in south Texas. They’ve only seen snow once in their life.

21 posted on 03/04/2008 2:03:41 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: NormsRevenge
"It's a very ubiquitous bacteria that's everywhere,"

Wow! That's the worst use of the language I have heard since

"It's an extremely unique coin that is one of a kind."
22 posted on 03/04/2008 2:03:54 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, I just wanted a new screen name.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Snow is very dangerous...
23 posted on 03/04/2008 2:06:10 PM PST by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Drew68
"There's some speculation that the reason kids are allergic to everything under the sun these days is because their parents are trying to raise them in a "bacteria-free" lifestyle and their bodies aren't building up immunities the way they should."

You got that right. If you picked 1,000 people at random and asked them if they would "kill all the bacteria in the world if they could", my guess is that 995 would say yes, not even realizing how sick they would be as a result...
24 posted on 03/04/2008 2:07:01 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (IX-XI -- numquam didici)
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To: NormsRevenge

Nanny Staters are relentless in their quest to be sure that NO ONE, ANYWHERE has ANY FUN at ALL.

25 posted on 03/04/2008 2:07:42 PM PST by wbill
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To: Responsibility2nd

Here’s to them someday experiencing a snowflake on their tongue tip .. or two, nothing like a good snow flurry to get a good taste. ;-)

26 posted on 03/04/2008 2:09:26 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Pietro
The saddest change is that kids can't just walk outside and play anymore because of all the sick and twisted b@stards out there.

Sick and twisted b@stards have always existed. I have yet to see any conclusive evidence that there are more of them around, as a percentage of the population, than in past decades or centuries.

27 posted on 03/04/2008 2:09:56 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Sherman Logan

Maybe they’re just more noticeable then, ‘cause I agree with Pietro.

28 posted on 03/04/2008 2:19:21 PM PST by brushcop (B-Co. 2/69 3rd Infantry Div., "Sledgehammer!" ...and keep hammering 'em!)
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To: Gondring

My kids LOVE yellow snow! You start with a nice cup of fresh snow and add a big splash of Margarita mix. It’s great. (Although people do give you some strange looks...)

29 posted on 03/04/2008 2:20:27 PM PST by 5by5
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To: NormsRevenge

I once read that part of the reason why kids today have so many allergies is because we no longer have them outside for so much of the day.

In the olden days they were in the fields with their mothers. More recently, they’d be outside playing at recess and getting dirty.

30 posted on 03/04/2008 2:20:38 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: massgopguy

You’re at greater risk of being whapped upside the head with a lead-filled snowshoe than getting sick by eating snow.

31 posted on 03/04/2008 2:23:22 PM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Pietro

According to today’s regulators and bureaucrats, those of us who were kids in the 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, 60’s, 70’s or even the early 80’s, probably shouldn’t have survived.

Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint.

We had no childproof lids or locks on medicine bottles, doors, or cabinets, and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets.

Not to mention the risks we took hitchhiking

As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.

Riding in the back of a pickup truck on a warm day was always a special treat.

We drank water from the garden hose
and not from a bottle. Horrors!

We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank soda pop with sugar in it, but we were never overweight because we were always outside playing.

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle, and no one actually died from this.

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then rode down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the street lights came on. No one was able to reach us all day. No cell phones. Unthinkable!

We did not have Play stations, Nintendo 64, X-Boxes, no video games at all, no 99 channels on cable, video tape movies, surround sound, personal cell phones, personal computers, or Internet chat rooms. We had friends! We went outside and found them.

We played dodge ball, and sometimes, the ball would really hurt. We fell out of trees, got cut and broke bones and teeth, and there were no lawsuits from these accidents. They were accidents. No one was to blame but us. Remember accidents?

We had fights and punched each other and got black and blue and learned to get over it.

We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and, although we were told it would happen, we did not put out any eyes.
We rod e bikes or walked to a friend’s home and knocked on the door, or rang the bell or just walked in and talked to them.

Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn’t had to learn to deal with disappointment.

Some students weren’t as smart as others, so they failed a grade and were held back to repeat the same grade. Horrors!

Tests were not adjusted for any reason.

Our actions were our own. Consequences were expected.

The idea of parents bailing us out if we got in trouble in school or broke a law was unheard of. They actually sided with the school or the law. Imagine that!

This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers, and inventors, ever.

We had freedom, failure, success, and responsibility — and we learned how to deal with it.

32 posted on 03/04/2008 2:24:25 PM PST by digger48 (
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To: Gondring
This is old news. Been known for many, many decades. Sheesh.

Ah, yes, but remember . . . this is an election year!

33 posted on 03/04/2008 2:27:20 PM PST by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: The Paucity of Hope)
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To: RightWhale
That’s not all they eat, especially the dogs

My dog thinks rabbit poop is fine dining, better than Scobby Snacks.

34 posted on 03/04/2008 2:28:54 PM PST by txroadkill (Liberals believe that the only oppressed people in Cuba are the terrorist in GitMo)
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To: stevem

It’s a mother’s job to tell a kid not to do something, and the kid’s job to go ahead and do it anyway.

35 posted on 03/04/2008 2:29:08 PM PST by lesser_satan
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To: 5by5

I was a kid in the fifties. My mom would fix snow with sugar, milk and vanilla. Delicious. But being from a large family we didn’t get a whole lot of treats.

36 posted on 03/04/2008 2:31:32 PM PST by Starstruck
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To: txroadkill

That’s the reason we go for walks daily. The rabbits are murdering the shrubs but the dog says that is grade A poop. Ignores moose poop.

37 posted on 03/04/2008 2:33:24 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: FoxInSocks

What if it’s Jesse Jackson’s name in the snow but it’s Hillary’s handwriting?

38 posted on 03/04/2008 2:33:27 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Starstruck

Maple sap, boiled down but still hot liquid. That’s what we got once in a while. Once in a blue moon.

39 posted on 03/04/2008 2:35:23 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: digger48

And I’ll bet you ate snow too.

40 posted on 03/04/2008 2:36:15 PM PST by Ed Condon (Wanted, newer tag line in good condition.)
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