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Justices to release audio in guns case (D.C. v. Heller)
San Luis Obispo Tribune ^ | Mar. 04, 2008 | NA

Posted on 03/04/2008 6:53:13 PM PST by neverdem

Associated Press

The Supreme Court said Tuesday it will quickly release audio tapes after the March 18 argument over gun rights. The case from the District of Columbia could resolve whether the Constitution gives individuals the right to own guns and, if so, whether the government may still strictly regulate gun ownership, including a ban on handguns.

The immediate, same-day release of audio tapes following arguments in major cases started in the 2000 presidential election, when the justices decided appeals of the Florida recount controversy in favor of George W. Bush.

The court has twice this term provided same-day audio. It was made available in cases involving the rights of prisoners detained by the U.S. military at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and the method of execution by lethal injection.

The court records arguments and ordinarily releases them at the end of each term. With television cameras barred from the court and reporters prohibited from using tape recorders in the courtroom, the availability of audio provides the public with a chance to hear the justices at work.

The case is District of Columbia v. Heller, 07-290.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist; heller; parker; secondamendment
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To: wastedyears
Wait... they’re just deliberating for one day?

They will have read all of the briefs, and have their questions for the oral arguments prepared, IMHO

I thought they were going to release a ruling in a few months?

It will probably take them that long to write their opinions, concurring and dissenting.

21 posted on 03/04/2008 7:28:04 PM PST by neverdem (I have to hope for a brokered GOP Convention. It can't get any worse.)
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To: marktwain
> If the court affirms a meaningful individual right, it will be a major legacy of the Bush administration.

Legacy shmegacy. The administration had nothing to do with this; the credit goes to gun-owning individuals and member organizations (GOA, NRA, 2A Sisters, etc.) who have stood firm and not backed down in the face of unconstitutional restrictions and "laws."

Let's not forget the brief filed by the current administration's solicitor general -- not at all helpful to the constructionist argument.

22 posted on 03/04/2008 7:28:20 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: neverdem
Amen. Especially when there are so many idiots out there that believe, like the AP reports, that the court can decide if the constitution grants rights. The founding fathers and the constitution is pretty clear that our rights exist outside of any piece of paper,the constitution merely enumerates some of them.
23 posted on 03/04/2008 7:28:35 PM PST by bt-99 ("it's not ours to give")
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To: neverdem

Yes, Justice Ginsburg could very well hold for the individual right. She is astutely aware of what happened in Germany during the 1930’s and 1940’s, after all.

Sometimes the answer is in the question. In Bush v. Gore, when Justice Souter asked about the different standards in different Florida counties, I was able to guess the outcome.


24 posted on 03/04/2008 7:35:25 PM PST by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: Emmett McCarthy; Congressman Billybob
But wouldn’t that open the federal district courts all over to hear cases and hand down their own decisions in line with that precedent?

I believe that if SCOTUS upholds an individual right, then jurisdictions like Chicago and other places in Illinois that ban handguns will be challenged, setting the stage for "incorporating" the Second Amendment, i.e. making it explicitly apply to all the states. Corrections from CongressmanBillybob will be appreciated.

25 posted on 03/04/2008 7:35:33 PM PST by neverdem (I have to hope for a brokered GOP Convention. It can't get any worse.)
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To: neverdem

Oh, cool

Maybe I could be a competent amateur gunsmith in that time. Before they’re outlawed


26 posted on 03/04/2008 7:35:48 PM PST by wastedyears (Iron Maiden in two weeks' time.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

IF the court is politically savvy, they will offer red meat to both sides, and a 5 to 4 ruling will do that, as you have outlined.


27 posted on 03/04/2008 7:37:05 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: coloradan
That’s how I read it. They KNOW it’s a huge, B.F.D. to a lot of people, which is why they’re releasing same-day audio. So, they’re at least already on notice that a lot of people will be paying very close attention. (Although, more at the decision than the argument.)

A lot of HEAVILY ARMED people, right?

Cheers!

28 posted on 03/04/2008 7:40:23 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: MHGinTN

“The decision will come back as a 5 to 4 (Kennedy will uphold citizen’s rights, with Alito, Thomas, Roberts & Scalia).”

From your lips to God’s ears.

...And I am not being funny either!


29 posted on 03/04/2008 7:41:31 PM PST by mr_hammer (Checking the breeze and barking at things that go bump in the night...stupid dog?)
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To: neverdem

Bump


30 posted on 03/04/2008 7:50:12 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: coloradan
Although it’s a tough genie to keep in the bottle. Should they determine that DC folx have a 2A right, it will be hard to argue no one else does, and if they rule the DC folx lack any 2A right, it will be hard to argue that anyone else has one either. So I don’t think they can keep the scope of the decision as narrow as they might wish.

Not difficult at all. DC is under direct federal jurisdiction. They could restrict the federal government's power to regulate firearms without touching the state governments' power to do so.

31 posted on 03/04/2008 7:51:45 PM PST by ReignOfError
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32 posted on 03/04/2008 7:59:24 PM PST by neverdem (I have to hope for a brokered GOP Convention. It can't get any worse.)
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To: mr_hammer

But you must realize, it ought to be 9 to 0 to uphold what is clearly declared in the Constitution, but the court has become such a sick political animal that they will rule to uphold the Constitution but it will be oh so close, as if a new challenge could change the outcome! Look at Lawrence v Texas and Stenberg v Carhardt ... the court nolonger functions to affirm the Constitution, it sits to make law. Disgusting


33 posted on 03/04/2008 8:00:00 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: humblegunner
The issue has long been settled. If they want to change it, fine. If so, please start in Texas. We remain ready to "discuss" the issue of disarmament.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid, you would get what the Branch Davidians got -- and probably run by the same General (Wesley Clark). AR-15's against helicopter gunships and M1 Abrams? Or maybe you have a source for stuff to make IED's?

34 posted on 03/04/2008 8:00:56 PM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: Resolute Conservative

IN OTHER WORDS....’READ IT AND WEEP, GUN GRABBERS’

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35 posted on 03/04/2008 8:05:49 PM PST by flat
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To: ReignOfError

What good is a federal right if any state can abolish it? Such a right is worthless. And therefore, not what the Framers were talking about when they wrote the Bill of Rights.


36 posted on 03/04/2008 8:05:58 PM PST by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: MHGinTN

Incidentally, Lawrence v. Texas is cited in the Heller brief filed by the Pink Pistols, a gay gun-rights group.


37 posted on 03/04/2008 8:07:11 PM PST by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Solitar

The guys in the gunships and tanks have to land and get out eventually.


38 posted on 03/04/2008 8:12:42 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: neverdem
"I believe it could be 7 - 2."

Please!! Are you insane? The "fix" is in on this case. Those in power have known that votes for gun control have been unpopular, but a court decision against the 2nd Amendment will take the decision out of the politicians hands and "seal the deal" for them to finally remove the last obstacle converting Americans from citizens to subjects.

The ATF and Feds will be waiting in running cars to pounce upon every FFL dealer in the US within minutes of the "fixed" decision (could even be a 6 to 3 against the 2nd) being announced and collect their dealer Transfer books. With this information in hand the terror of gun owner will REALLY begin with "examples" being made in the country side of people not willing to turn in their firearms. Any other firearms owners not complying with the new "decision" from the Court will have their information turned over to the IRS and will have their assets frozen and wages confiscated.

While all this is going on, the media will be blitzing the country like you never have seen! Firearms owners will be equated to domestic terrorist, and that it is every citizens duty to turn in those who they know own firearms. The children will be used extensively in this campaign to rat out their parents and friends.

Just you wait and see ... firearms ownership will go out, not with a bang, but with a whimper.

39 posted on 03/04/2008 8:24:46 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


40 posted on 03/04/2008 8:34:01 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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