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In response to the BATFE coming to every gun dealer and getting the records then going to every gun owner...

Well, there are 2300 BATFE agents and about 100 million gun owners. Do the math. Who is more likely to win that firefight? And believe me, Should SCOTUS rule the wrong way on this one, all hell is going to break loose.

SCOTUS is very aware that this is the most pivotal case in US history. I predict incorporation and a strong ruling in our favor with a 6-3 split.

Mike

In response to the BATFE coming to every gun dealer and getting the records then going to every gun owner... Well, there are 2300 BATFE agents and about 100 million gun owners.

As I said in my original post, the BATFE (aka the new SS) will just have to make examples of a few families with the media propgandizing the story as "routing out domestic terrorists". From that, there will be a good amount of people willing to turn in their guns. The rest will have the IRS to deal with e.g. frozen assets and bank accounts. The BATFE won't have to do much other than sit back and watch the guns roll in and do a few raids in the hills for us hold outs.

SCOTUS is very aware that this is the most pivotal case in US history. I predict incorporation and a strong ruling in our favor with a 6-3 split.

I hope and pray that you are correct on this one.

SCOTUS is very aware that this is the most pivotal case in US history. I predict incorporation (emphasis mine) and a strong ruling in our favor with a 6-3 split.

Speaking of incorporation...

If you are talking about the Supreme Court's so-called selective incorporation of the BoR concerning the 14th A., I think that selective incorporation is not only meaningless, but also reflects that justices are ignoring the Constitution's history.

More specifically, it has been pointed out concerning the 2nd A. that John Bingham, the main author of Sec. 1 of the 14th A., read the first eight amendments when he gave examples of constitutional statutes containing privileges and immunities that the 14th A. applied to the states.

See the first eight amendments in the middle column of the following page from one of Bingham's discussions of the 14th A. in the Congressional Globe, a precursor to the Congressional web.

http://tinyurl.com/y3ne4n

So given that Bingham referenced the first eight amendments when clarifying the scope and purpose of the 14th A., again, the USSC's so-called selective incorporation of the BoR doesn't mean anything. After all, Bingham had essentially pre-incorporated all the Constitution's privileges and immunities anyway.

Thoughts?