Posted on 03/05/2008 12:28:56 AM PST by Simi Valley Tom
Historical facts clearly prove the murderous evils of atheism and big government
At a minimum, atheist dictators in the Soviet Union, Red China, Cambodia, North Korea, Vietnam, and Yugoslavia murdered 105 million people in the 20th Century, more than 60% of the mass murders, genocide and political murders in that time.
In comparison, only about 2% of the 169 million examples of democide in the 20th Century were due to religious conflict.
Also in comparison, the Crusades murdered only 1 million people over several centuries, the Spanish Inquisition only murdered 350,000 people over several centuries, and the witch hunts added up together only killed about 100,000 people from 1400 A.D. to 1800 A.D. In fact, before the 20th century, religious conflict only accounted for about 3% of the genocide, mass murders and political/religious murders, or democide, in the world during recorded history.
Furthermore, regarding the Crusades, it should be noted that they were undertaken to defend people, including Christians, against the murderous tyrannical hordes of Mohammed’s children, who continue to ravage the world and destroy true human liberty and dignity under the God of the Bible.
Thus, Americans, Latin Americans, Europeans, Africans, Asians, Australians, New Zealanders, Canadians, and Polynesians have more to fear from a big atheist government than a few moral reforms supported by Evangelical Christians, such as pro-life laws against abortion, laws against same-sex marriage and the cleansing of the culture of moral filth and gross obscenity.
Of course, as Paul writes in Romans, the government is established by God to commend the good and punish the wrongdoer. Properly run, the government should therefore hold no terror for the Bible-believing Christian who does good, including those fighting abortion, same-sex marriage and depravity in the mass media.
- www.godandscience.org and MOVIEGUIDE®, www.movieguide.org.
I have heard that Osama bin Laden is not an atheist.
One of the core beliefs of Communism is atheism.
Yes, so?
Communism also believed in physics and the sciences. Should these be shunned because of the association too, as per the logic you were attempting to propound?
Had the author used Communism, instead of Atheism, he would be more on target.
BTW, Hitler was not Atheist.
An assumption which would surprise the New World's first communists, The Pilgrim Fathers, who abandoned it not out of religious argument, but simply because it did not work.
Communism kills people for political purposes, and atheism is tied directly to Communism.
The article is using Communism (Marxism) in the 20th century, which is tied to atheism.
Again, confusion.
Atheism is just the refusal to accept the presence or existence of (a) “supernatural” master(s). That is all. Full-stop. Communism is a lot more than that.
Barring divine intervention, there is nothing on earth or beyond that can make a real Atheist become Gnostic.
What exactly in Atheism motivates one to kill? Are murderes, say, in America, more likely to be Atheists? Or is the contrary the truth?
Barring divine intervention, there is nothing on earth or beyond that can make a real Atheist become Gnostic.
I know.
What exactly in Atheism motivates one to kill? Are murderes, say, in America, more likely to be Atheists? Or is the contrary the truth?
Communist dictators have killed people who have faith for no reason other then they're not atheist. Do you honestly believe that would have happened if the dictator was a Buddhist?
Japan's WW-2 emperor was not an atheist. Neither was Hitler.
Now, what do you believe?
Did Stalin and the others kill specifically for the sake of Atheism?
is a very big yes.
If yes, he would have eliminated people of all faiths in the USSR, in totality. He was clearly capable of doing so, but he didn’t. He killed enough to consolidate his political position. Again, he was more Communist than he was Atheist.
Now that I’ve said this, what do you have to say about the religious background of murderers in a non-Communist country? Are they all Atheists, and in majority?
How many core beliefs of Communism are there? Could you name a few more?
He had a country of several million people, he couldn't have killed off every single theist.
He killed enough to consolidate his political position. Again, he was more Communist than he was Atheist.
He killed them simply because they weren't atheist.
Now that I've said this, what do you have to say about the religious background of murderers in a non-Communist country? Are they all Atheists, and in majority?
Well, first, I'm going to guess that you're an atheist. And I'm going to guess that you believe that almost no one has ever been killed for atheism. And, when confronted with religious persecution of atheism, you're trying to grab moral high ground by saying that it isn't atheism, but communism that's the bad guy.
Look, I'm against murder and religious persecution. But for the love of God, get off your high horse and quit acting like atheism has clean hands here. What does communism have against theism anyway?
No private ownership.
The premise of the article, and the author, are the ones on high-horses here.
He killed hundreds of millions, as per the article, but couldn't finish off anyone of faith? Come on!
I can certainly see your point there.
But maybe you can enlighten me: Do you know of any other socioeconomic system that has advocated the persecution of any and all theists the way communism does?
No, he killed when they became a real or imagined threat to his political position. He killed hundreds and thousands of fellow Communists too, especially scientists who failed. Stalin, like Hitler and others, was a truly sick, and would stop at nothing.
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