Do we need guns at Paradise?

Crosscut ^ | 3/5/08 | Knute Berger

[DuncanWaring]

Carol and Julie Sund, Silvina Pelosso and Joie Ruth Armstrong probably wished they had been legal to carry a gun in "Paradise".

[VR-21]

"This author has said so many stupid things in such a short article that it’s hard to figure out where to start."

I agree with that. The point is it's nobodys business where I carry, and If I present no danger doing so in downtown Seattle, then I present no danger in the Parks. The issue is just another example of leftists wanting to chip away at rights they personally don't approve of.

[VeniVidiVici]

One, from the Kalispell Daily Inter Lake, argues that in nearby Glacier National Park there is no crime problem and that guns are a poor defense against the main predator, grizzly bears. Pepper spray is both non-lethal and more effective, since you don't have to hit a bulls-eye to deter a charging griz.

Well, if there is no crime then why are they so determined to keep guns out of parks? Nobody will ever have a reason to know you're carrying one.

And to use pepper spray on a grizzly. Yeah, I'd like to watch this idiot stand there holding a little pepper spray bottle against a charging bear.

Sometimes these people are so idiotic I wonder how they are from the same planet.

[EnigmaticAnomaly]

"Lots of people have been murdered in national parks. And just because there isn’t a “crime problem” doesn’t mean there won’t ever be an incident.

I’m pretty sure Virginia Tech didn’t have a “crime problem,” either.

Ahh, liberals."

Lovely liberal logic...logic of the mentally deranged.

[beaureguard]

Ask Meredith Emerson if she would have liked to have been carrying a gun in one of Georgia’s State Parks around Jan 1st of this year...

[Fred911]

"guns are a poor defense against the main predator, grizzly bears. Pepper spray is both non-lethal and more effective, since you don't have to hit a bulls-eye to deter a charging griz." Let me get this straight....I should wait until the charging bear gets close enough to use pepper spray, say 3 or 4 feet? Somehow that is more effective than putting a few 357 rounds in his head at 4 feet????

[steve-b]

And to use pepper spray on a grizzly. Yeah, I'd like to watch this idiot stand there holding a little pepper spray bottle against a charging bear.

LOL! The grizzly will use the pepper to season this moron's carcass.

[null and void]

...bear scat smells like pepper and has little bells in it...

[massgopguy]

“You don’t shoot Mongo, you’ll only make him mad.” Ditto for Pepper Spray on a Bear.

[brazzaville]

Good morning.
“Democrats have claimed it is a political ploy, backed by the National Rifle Association, to force Democrats to take a tough gun vote during an election year.”

That sounds like an admission that gun grabbing is a losing issue. So they know that the majority opposes gun control, yet still try to force it on us by any means possible.

Despicable DemocRATs.

Michael Frazier

[Robert357]

Do you feel the need to pack heat while wandering the wildflower meadows of Paradise on Mount Rainier?

I don't have a problem with that.

If I were to hike the Cascade Crest trail that crosses through a lot of park and national wilderness lands, I would definitely be carrying my snub-nose 44 mag or one of my many 357 Magnum revolvers.

And yes, I do have a CPL.

[MrPiper]

do a google search on: Appalachian trail murders or Yellowstone National park murders. Where there are people, there is a need for self defense.

[Resolute Conservative]

I carry mine everywhere except through a metal detector controlled area and I do not like being unarmed in those places either.

I always muse over the old codgers they have in federal courts houses as security. I hated giving up my weapon when I went in there to testify when I was an LEO.

[rickomatic]

“You don’t shoot Mongo, you’ll only make him mad.” Ditto for Pepper Spray on a Bear.

The guy who wrote the article is a total idiot, and states too many stupid points to respond to. But I do believe that pepper spray is indeed the most effective deterent to bears. A bears olefactory system is many thousands of times more sensitive than a dogs. That is why the pepper spray is effective. They really cannot tolerate at all a full shot of spray. It becomes an instinctive reaction to repel against that irritant.

That having been said. When I'm in the woods, I'm accompanied by my Ruger Super Blackhawk Hunter loaded with .44 mag Garrett Hammerheads. :)

[uglybiker]

Lets go find a griz, and then give him a choice of what weapon he would use............

[Mr.Grumble]

We should be able to carry guns because its our Constitutional right, regardless of whether there is a need for animal control, protection from criminals, or any other reason.

[Phantom Patriot]

law abiding citizens.

I’ll ask this again. What law? Whose Law? that phrase in itself is a catch 22 some states make it against the law to defend yourself period.

I’d like to hear any response on that topic. Md. is my example.

[theBuckwheat]

IMO, if the Bill of Rights applies anywhere, it also applies on Federal Government land. Our rights are not subject to a “utility” test. For example, we cannot say that because in a particular town nothing ever happens that nobody can exercise their right of a free press. If anything, public lands are particular areas of concern, for we know that law enforcement in remote areas is remote, not to mention having the means to repel an attacking animal. One hundred years ago anyone venturing into these remote areas would be considered a moonbat to venture very far while unarmed. It appears that moonbattery is still with us, only now they are in positions to pass laws, or prevent their repeal.

[SoldierDad]

Would you be okay for people with violent felony convictions being allowed to carry concealed or openly displayed firearms? I’m not referring to people who have received parking tickets or speeding tickets here.

[XR7]

We should be able to carry guns because its our Constitutional right...

Thanks for that.
But,
Let's get something clear: It is our God-given right.
It is an "unalienable" right.
That means no one but God has the right to take it away.
The U.S. Constitution merely recognizes that.