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Do we need guns at Paradise?
Crosscut ^ | 3/5/08 | Knute Berger

Posted on 03/05/2008 8:36:13 AM PST by XR7

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To: Brouhaha

If you’re polite to them and spell their name correctly you probably won’t be threatened by a Hells Angel.


61 posted on 03/05/2008 11:37:14 AM PST by jjones9853
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To: XR7
> Pepper spray ... you don't have to hit a bulls-eye to deter a charging griz

The moron author obviously has no clue about the effective use of pepper spray against bears. The sprayer's timing and aim are critical -- to make sure that the bear inhales the spray (or gets it in his eyes), instead of running right through it without harm.

62 posted on 03/05/2008 11:56:20 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Bob

So, you missed the comment made by the person who posted to me? That’s the context with respect to my comment. I’m quite aware that convicted felons already are prohibited by law from possessing firearms, given that I have a number of family members who have been or are now in LE. My post to which you refer was all about sarcasm.


63 posted on 03/05/2008 12:03:04 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: Tex Pete; SoldierDad; The Woim; muawiyah; theBuckwheat; dbwz; Brouhaha

Check out the many thousands of crimes which occur annually in National Parks in Post #56 - and this is only a partial listing!


64 posted on 03/05/2008 12:03:48 PM PST by Gritty (To prevent mass shootings we must ratchet down the firepower available to civilians-Brady Campaign)
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To: Gritty

Yep, makes me want to visit real soon. CCW’s may be what is needed for people to be able to protect themselves in these parks.


65 posted on 03/05/2008 12:08:46 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: XR7
Glacier National Park there is no crime problem and that guns are a poor defense against the main predator, grizzly bears. Pepper spray is both non-lethal and more effective, since you don't have to hit a bulls-eye to deter a charging griz.

Choose wisely Grasshopper!

66 posted on 03/05/2008 12:10:50 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution ? 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: SoldierDad
Would you be okay for people with violent felony convictions being allowed to carry concealed or openly displayed firearms? I’m not referring to people who have received parking tickets or speeding tickets here.

No sir! As long as it wasn't some stupid incident where the law was used beyond it’s intent. If you saw your kid being beaten by a group and intervened and was charged with assault lets say. Is that Ok?

My point is that we can not all be perfect. Sometimes you have to do things in life. Now I’m not talking about a thief, rapist of murderer such as son of SAM. I’m talking about an average guy who thought he was doing the right thing or protecting his family. You know along those lines.

The problem is, the law does not recognize that. Especially in Md.

67 posted on 03/05/2008 12:38:44 PM PST by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: Phantom Patriot

With respect to cases such as what you refer to here, I would hope that those are extreme cases of out of control politicians and LE who have gotten away with prosecuting people inappropriately. I would further hope that this is not widespread in practice. And, you are right. If one of my family members were being attacked and their life was in danger, I’d pull out my firearm and use it to defend their life regardless of what consequences I might face legally. I would do that no matter where I lived.


68 posted on 03/05/2008 12:48:19 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: Bob
Soldier Dad was responding to my post. And if you check out post 67 you may understand where I was going.

Point that everyone is missing is that they are making laws so you can’t fart out loud. Let alone defend yourself in some states. Again I’m referencing Md.

I don’t think someone who was placed in a situation inadvertently should have to give up their RTKAB.

Such as with many zealous prosecutors. Everyone should think about this as they are making it easier to make YOU a criminal and then deprive you of your rights.

69 posted on 03/05/2008 12:55:10 PM PST by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: SoldierDad
Thank you sir, that is all I asked. And I do believe this is becoming more widespread. I’m just trying to warn my fellow gun owners to be cautious. This is real.
70 posted on 03/05/2008 12:58:10 PM PST by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: SoldierDad

Please thank your son for me for his service.


71 posted on 03/05/2008 1:02:59 PM PST by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: SoldierDad
My post to which you refer was all about sarcasm.

I think I need to get my sarcasm detector checked. Sorry 'bout that. I completely missed it.

72 posted on 03/05/2008 1:09:35 PM PST by Bob
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To: steve86
? ~ I worked for America's most diverse and integrated organization ~ the United States Postal Service.

EVERYBODY works for the Post Office.

73 posted on 03/05/2008 1:36:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Phantom Patriot

I will indeed give him your thanks. As to the issue at hand, WE the PEOPLE should demand better than this from our representatives.


74 posted on 03/05/2008 2:38:22 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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i am ok with that... there are laws against them owning them but if they need to protect themselves, ‘shall not be infringed’ means just that... if you think otherwise you are a gun grabber... just haggling on the price of freedom.

teeman8r


75 posted on 03/05/2008 2:39:20 PM PST by teeman8r
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To: XR7

Question: “Do we need guns at Paradise?”

Answer: Yes!


76 posted on 03/05/2008 2:39:27 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Bob

No problem. I’ve run into the same thing on occasion. It’s not always easy to tell when someone is being sarcastic, especially when there’s not a /sarc tag. I’ll try and remember to use that in the future.


77 posted on 03/05/2008 2:39:31 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: XR7

Here at Firebase Paradise firearms are manditory,
if you don’t have one we will issue you one.


78 posted on 03/05/2008 2:41:05 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: teeman8r

Even if I were somone with a felony conviction, if one of my family member’s life were in danger, and a firearm was available, I’d protect them (provided I’m not the reason why their life was being threatened). If that came with consequences, so be it.


79 posted on 03/05/2008 2:42:21 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: XR7

Given all the people they allow in National Parks I wouldn’t go there without a gun. Especially since most people think everyone there is unarmed.


80 posted on 03/05/2008 10:35:35 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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