Skip to comments.Did Republican crossovers keep Hillary alive?
Posted on 03/05/2008 8:55:14 AM PST by reaganator
The total of McCain and Huckleby votes in Ohio yesterday were approximately 955,000.
The total of Obama and Clinton votes in Ohio yesterday were approximately 2,150,000.
Clinton won by approximately only 227,000 votes.
Where were the Republicans? Did at least 227,000 Republicans crossover yesterday and vote for Hillary?
In Texas, Clinton won by approximately only 98,000 votes. There in Texas there was also a much smaller number of Republicans voting for McCain and Huckleby. It's sure very reasonable to think that at least 98,000 Republicans crossed over in Texas.
Did the Republican voters keep Hillary in the race?
If they did, they were stupid for doing so.
I know many who did.
If they did they are fools! Fools. She has they organization. To win in apathetic America today you just need to fire up your base. The rest will come along.
Yes, of course. Exactly as democrat crossovers gave us McCain.
That was the silly plan.
Yes it is still not time to drop the house and take the ruby slippers.
Would you rather Obama be standing unopposed today for the nomination?
As it is, neither Obama or Clinton will be able to achieve the number of delgates needed by the time the primary process ends.
Wouldn’t you rather have these two super egos bringing dirt up on each other for the next 5 months? And spending 10’s of millions of dollars doing so.
This Ohio Republican refused to participate. First time I missed a vote in 22 years.
Yes. Isn’t it a great master plan? Isn’t Rush a freakin’ genius.
I am just so excited...
another 8 years of the evil, corrupt Clintons.
What the hell were Republicans thinking? WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
Wrong! What better way to discourage the Obamination Dems from supporting Clinton and uniting the Republican party and independents against her?
Just from personal observations, a LOT of Republicans I know crossed over, despite my warnings. I would guess that most Republicans that I know crossed over. Our county is strongly Republican, yet the democrat primary ballot was a 2 to 1 margin over Republican.
Why do you think they were stupid? Who do you think is the weaker candidate to run against Johnny Mac, Hillary or Obama? Obama has had too much momentum, he was on track to win this thing...now they will most likely have a brokered convention. THAT is a good thing.
BTW, I disagree with you.
Thanks Rush. Thanks a lot.
Welcome to FR.
I’m a Republican in Texas who voted for the black candidate, Alan Keyes.
So I didn’t vote for McCain or Huckabee so I guess my vote didn’t “count” in your model.
Our local conservative radio guy just ran an audio clip of Karl Rove speaking last night: Based on Rasmussen and other polls... Twice as many Democrats are defecting (crossing over and voting Republican) and voting for McCain in tonights election than Republicans voting for Hillary or Obama.
Meanwhile, all Democrats are in a state of panic because their nomination will not be settled prior to the convention.
I have a new FR ID, but I am not a newbie, I’ve been here for years. Thanks for the welcome anyway.
Dick Morris was encouraging people to cross over to vote for Obama. He was saying the Clintons are so corrupt and immoral they are too dangerous to have such power.
Rush said it was good to cross over to vote for Hillary because anything that keeps them disorganized and fighting is good. He said don’t believe the MSM, his sources say that the Dems are in a civil war and terribly upset.
Rove last night said that it could be good, it could be bad. It’s good because yes, the Dems cannot focus their effort, and are disorganized and fighting. But it also keeps them on the front page while McCain goes to page 3.
There you have it - three intelligent, experienced pundits with three totally different takes. It’ll be interesting to see whose right.
My guess is if Obama’s not on the ticket, the Dem blacks, who have been programmed to view themselves as victims of racism, will be furious at the Dem party - that could fracture the party. So I guess I’ll go with Rush. Of course, there may be a Clinton Obama ticket.
Obama’s momentum was a sudden surge. What was frightening was how vaccuous the support was. There was no “there” there.
And the socialists were already getting in line to take their support “to the streets” with midnight postering campaigns.
I hope so. Let Hillary and Obama flail away at each other for a while longer.
I seriously doubt that any campaign by Rush netted Hillary 90,000 votes in either race. For what it is worth, exit polls showed most of the crossover vote went to Obama.
Excellent, you did the right thing.
They punted the ball back in her hands and she is on the 50 yeard line. Uncle Obama’s pancake mix has been recalled.
Banned? Suspened? Or was there an opus I missed?
The total of Obama and Clinton votes in Ohio yesterday were approximately 2,150,000.
There's one major red state that will be going blue in November, and with it, a probable electoral college lock for the Democrat.
Not at the risk of keeping a Clinton family member in the political scene today. We need to get rid of them ASAP. They destroy everything in which they are involved. We need to cleanse the coutnry of their presence.
And he was right. Why that doesn't go without saying among the Limbomaniacs is a mystery of the times.
The Demcrats were having a closely contested primary. The Republican nominee was unquestionably to be McCain.
Knowing this, why would Democrats choose not to help decide THEIR contest, crossover and vote for a Republican that was bound to win it anyway?
It’s a real question, what’s the real answer? Why? Did Karl Rove give an answer to “why they would”?
I think the phrase is ‘better the devil you know’.
Despite James Carvill’s waggish “There’s a name for a candidate who relies on the youth vote: a loser.” I’m afraid Obamamania among the young would translate into votes in the fall, and worse into a generation of fairly committed left-voters.
Besides RealClearPolitics has McCain up on Hillery by fractional percentage points, while losing to Obama by over 4%.
Not that I really have a dog in the fight: I wish all three of them could lose.
Obama would make a worse pres than Hillary. He's certainly no better. If McCain is going to win he needs cross over votes from the rats. Keeping Hillary in causes the rats to fight internally.
Plus if Hillary wins because of Superdelegate you could have a mass black protest vote against Hillary.
Yes, I expect so. I confess I would not know if it was a good idea or not. But I think it happened.
1. The Republican race was already decided, no competition left against McCain, so a vote on that line would only have been symbolic.
2. Some may have voted against Obama because they don’t want a black president. This could include some Hispanic Republicans.
3. Some may have voted for hillary to keep the race alive.
4. Some may have voted for hillary as the lesser of two evils.
I’m not sure if I agree with any of these reasons. Keeping the race alive probably won’t make that much difference. And I am completely unsure which of those two is worse. They are both unbelievably bad. I personally think Obama is worse, but his machine may not be as powerful as hers, so that evens it out.
I don’t know about Ohio, but in Texas exit polls showed that Republicans who voted Democrat went roughly 52-48 for Hillary, and represented 9% of the votes cast. In that instance I would say that they MAY have made a difference.
Given the size of Hillary’s win in Ohio, I doubt that the Republicans handed her the win.
I fear Hillary more than Obama.
With the right kind of message, McCain can beat him. Obama is an empty suit, and he would have imploded during the general election when people see how phony he is.
Stupid is as stupid does. I hate this type of vote casting, vote your darn conscience and move on.
No way, that’s not me. I was hankreardon. Somehow I lost it and did not remember my password.
Dont disagree with Rush’s plan....but the big drawback is that with the Dems still fighting....they get front page news and all the media attention....while McCain gets no attention
Ol PearHead, Karl Rove, is correct on this (no fan of Ol’ PearHead, esp his treatment of pro-American/anti-illegal Congressmen)
Obama won 12 freakin' contests in a row and now Hillary is saved from political extinction by winning a mere 3. Oh no, we're doomed. It would have been soooo much better to just hand to Obama victory NOW so he can spend the next 7 months firing away nonstop at McCain and being worshiped nonstop by the media for "making history"
You freepers who can't figure out we it's better to have the Dems SLOWLY destroy EACH OTHER sand then eek into the general election are the type of useful idiots who got us DemocRAT Dennis Cardoza in Congress because you INSISTED that Gary Condit be "taken out" IMMEDIATELY in the RAT primary. Had Condit simply been bloodied up constantly over many long months and BARELY renominated, the GOP would have taken that seat in November.
Ah, well. Anything with “Reagan” in it is good.
that’s not wise...it’s manipulating the system rather than just voting on your candidate. I didn’t like it when democrats did it for McCain and it’s a disgrace for us to do it. Everyone should have to vote for their party in all of the primaries so this can’t happen again.