Posted on 03/05/2008 6:38:02 PM PST by Rebeleye
Does the Confederate battle flag represent heritage or hatred? The answer is yes. It represents a heritage that included hatred.
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Fly the Bonnie Blue Flag instead.
Early in 1956 the Southern states began planning on how to observe the 100th anniversary of the “War for Southern Independence” from hereon known as the “Civil War”. Some of these states decided to use the flag in their state flag or to raise it below the United States flag. Others decided to obtain a proclamation to observe the 100th anniversary of the Civil War.
A joint resolution was placed upon the floor of both houses of Congress to study and coordinate the observance of the 100th anniversary of the Civil War. Both houses passed the resolution on September 7, 1957 to establish the Civil War Centennial Commission to coordinate the observance.
Many people have ignored these facts as documented in the Congressional records. Some have gone so far as to place a fictional idea that the Confederate Battle Flag was raised in defiance of the civil rights movement. Maybe the civil rights movement actually used the Centennial to promote their activities. These very same people also presented the fictional idea that the South had invented segregation when in fact segregation was a Federal Law established by U.S. Congress as a result of the “Jim Crow” case. This was nothing more than an extension of reconstruction.
Not one single person that says the Confederate Battle Flag was used in defiance of the civil rights activities will ever admit that it was done as an observance of the 100th anniversary of the Civil War. To admit this fact would be to admit that they are wrong in assuming otherwise. Their information and stories are blown apart by the facts and documents that prove what they have said about this wrong.
On December 6, 1960, a little more than three years after the first indication of an attempt to organize an observance by Congress, President Dwight D. Eisenhower did something that has been overlooked when discussion of the Confederate Battle Flag comes up. It was on this day that President Eisenhower issued a proclamation declaring observance of the 100th anniversary of the Civil War. It was labeled Civil War Proclamation No. 3882. In this proclamation, President Dwight D. Eisenhower, “…invited all of the people of our country to take a direct and active part in the Centennial of the Civil War.”
This took effect on December 6, 1960, just as the civil rights activities were starting, coincidence or perfect planning? The proclamation and observance originated in late 1956. It was done to observe and honor those who fought on both sides and to better understand what had happened. In the South it was a chance to raise the Confederate Battle Flag, not in defiance of the civil rights movement, but to honor the men and women who died fighting under the flag for what they believed.
From: The Truth About The Confederate Battle Flag.
Furthermore: The people were fighting for independence not for the wealthy elite of slave owners as the article rightly points out (much to my surprise) that most inhabitants of Dixie were dirt poor. Ergo those who display the Confederate Battle Flag are being proud of their culture & are not "pining" for any old bygone era where they were themselves lorded over by the slave owning elites. This columnist should get out of the office more often & try to learn about their history and their compatriots.
No....it’s called DERMATITIS! :)
Sadly, that is not true. It has also been co-opted by racist groups with no ties whatsoever to the south.
While it’s wrong to ignore those for whom the flag does represent what it means to you, it is equally wrong to pretend those are it’s only meanings.
NOBODY has been better at the historical revisionist game than Southern historians, who have successfully pushed the ahistorical myth that the Civil War “had nothing to do about slavery.”
It was Lincoln himself who said (not verbatim but close) “If I can preserve the Union with freeing the slaves, I would do it....If I can preserve the Union without freeing the slaves, I would do it” (words to that effect)
Lincoln’s main objective was to preserve the Union. Note that the Emancipation Proclamation did not take place until 1863...and did not cover all areas of the Confederacy
And, many abolishionists’ real objectives in preventing slavery was to keep blacks out of the new territories and states
This is not revisionism, this is the reality. I find most of the revisionism is done by historians with an anti-Southern bias that borders on bigotry
I couldn’t agree more, and that is coming from a born and raised Yankee! I hope and pray I will be able to retire in “rebel country”!
I cannot believe ANY Conservative would actually think the Civil War was about slavery! It was not.
That's why Catoosa County voted against the big government Confederates when the secession question came up in 1861. Maybe if some of the local people better knew the history of Catoosa, they wouldn't be so ready to publicly display a flag of the Confederate occupiers.
Perhaps these would-be Confederates imagine that if the North had not intervened, they would be standing on a balcony with a woman in a big hoop skirt while a black person stood by silently fanning them, like a human appliance.
For some people, I'm afraid that's the misconception. The whole Tara and Scarlett O'Hara bit. The more likely contact with a plantation for the average white southerner was harassment from the local boss who wanted you to fight his fight against the Yankee while he stayed at home suppressing servile insurrection.
I am a 50 year old woman who has lived in Georgia all my life. For most of my life I looked at the Confederate flag as just a part of history. Period. Some years ago I began to see so much hatred associated with the flag that it made me ill.
In some ways it makes me sad that I can’t look at it as a part of history anymore without feeling sick to my stomach.
Please don’t jump on me. I am just presenting President Lincoln’s words.
Executive Mansion,
Washington, August 22, 1862.
Hon. Horace Greeley:
Dear Sir.
I have just read yours of the 19th. addressed to myself through the New-York Tribune. If there be in it any statements, or assumptions of fact, which I may know to be erroneous, I do not, now and here, controvert them. If there be in it any inferences which I may believe to be falsely drawn, I do not now and here, argue against them. If there be perceptable [sic] in it an impatient and dictatorial tone, I waive it in deference to an old friend, whose heart I have always supposed to be right.
As to the policy I “seem to be pursuing” as you say, I have not meant to leave any one in doubt.
I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be “the Union as it was.” If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.
I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free.
Yours,
A. Lincoln.
I’m not trying to argue anything.
I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind, just providing information of which people may not be aware.
Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation of January 1, 1863 was a powerful move that promised freedom for slaves in the Confederacy as soon as the Union armies reached them, and authorized the enlistment of African Americans in the Union Army. The Emancipation Proclamation did not free slaves in the Union-allied slave-holding states that bordered the Confederacy. Since the Confederate States did not recognize the authority of President Lincoln, and the proclamation did not apply in the border states, at first the proclamation freed only slaves who had escaped behind Union lines. Still, the proclamation made the abolition of slavery an official war goal that was implemented as the Union took territory from the Confederacy. According to the Census of 1860, this policy would free nearly four million slaves, or over 12% of the total population of the United States
no it’s called beaten up by a whip
“Confederate Flag represents both heritage and hate
Walker County (Ga.) Messenger ^ | Jeannie Babb Taylor”
Yes... the HATE of our HERITAGE!
LLS
Amen brother!
LLS
Post 30 Ref: Wikipedia: Slavery in the United States
I guess this means we need to stop flying the American Flag as well. It reined over slavery one hell of alot longer than the Confederate Battle Flag did.
With the constant encroachment of government power it seems it will again very soon.
Only problem Mr.Grumble
It wasn’t a Civil War. The 2 sides were not fighting over control of one government, one side wanted to leave the other wanted to enforce their will by force of arms.
It was, as has been accurately stated before, Mr. Lincoln’s War or the War of Yankee Aggression.
If I remember correctly, 63,000 black soldiers served in the confederate military. At least one state (Texas) gave them a pension and other honors after the war. Many of them met with white veterans at unit reunions.
Ref: Walter Williams
After reading the first 3 sentences, I quit.
The writer (author implies knowledge) of this ignorant screed should sit down and learn about the economic reasons for the War of Northern Aggression. Hint #1, it didn’t start at Fort Sumner. Second hint, it had nearly NOTHING to do with slavery.
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