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The Final Insult (Stonehenge)
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 3-5-2008 | Jonathan Jones

Posted on 03/05/2008 7:08:40 PM PST by blam

Edited on 03/06/2008 6:57:48 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The final insult

It is our greatest monument, on a par with the pyramids. But soon it will be plagued by Tesco juggernauts. Why don't we care about Stonehenge? Jonathan Jones finds out

Interactive guide to Stonehenge

Wednesday March 5, 2008
The Guardian (UK)

The winter light is kind to the stones. Its mild greyness reveals the beauty of the blue lichen that has grown for thousands of years over their surfaces and even, from the right point on the path, lets you see the sinister shape of a bronze-age dagger carved into bleak rock. I'd love to be able to say it's an encounter that leads me far from the modern world into eerie reveries - but that would be a lie.

In the misty, rainy morning, pairs of bright white lights keep appearing on the near horizon, and across the grass there is the unholy spectacle of a continuous flow of cars and trucks on the A303. Amazingly, this crowded road is soon going to get worse. In February, it was revealed that Tesco plans to build a gigantic warehouse near Andover, from which it is estimated a Tesco juggernaut will emerge every minute - many of them on to the A303. The Tesco "MegaShed" is just the final, farcical insult after the terrible news that hit Stonehenge three months ago. Just before Christmas, after nearly two decades of ambitious planning to rescue this landscape from traffic, came a brutal government press release: Tom Harris, under-secretary of state for transport, declared that plans to enclose the A303 in a tunnel under Salisbury Plain "would not represent best use of taxpayers' money".


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: final; godsgravesglyphs; insult; stonehenge

1 posted on 03/05/2008 7:08:41 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 03/05/2008 7:09:00 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Didn’t some American family, on vacation, knock these stones to the ground a few years back?


3 posted on 03/05/2008 7:10:23 PM PST by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: C210N

Classic!


4 posted on 03/05/2008 7:28:56 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: blam

I never understood the fascination with stonehenge. It’s just what’s left over of a fort after the small stones were swiped to build hearths in peasant huts.


5 posted on 03/05/2008 7:29:05 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: blam

6 posted on 03/05/2008 7:38:50 PM PST by skeeter
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To: blam

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=stonehenge&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=15

You can see here just how close the roads pass by Stonehenge, you have to wonder about who decided to build them there.


7 posted on 03/05/2008 7:43:54 PM PST by gd124
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To: blam

For a minute there, I thought they were putting a McDonalds in the middle of it.


8 posted on 03/05/2008 7:47:03 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Xenalyte

To Post #6!


9 posted on 03/05/2008 7:49:13 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: blam

The first time we visited Stonehenge it was just a box to check off on the living in England list. It was far more impressive than I expected. For a good perspective on this region I would suggest a book called “Sarum” by Rutherford. BTW I love Tesco too.


10 posted on 03/05/2008 7:49:32 PM PST by strongbow
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To: blam

I’d pay to see Banksy to tag Stonehenge.

And the food concession at stonehenge is god awful, even by working class British cuisine standards. A nearby Tesco could only improve things.


11 posted on 03/05/2008 7:59:16 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander
Don’t the Brits have the money to buy some new stones and fix the place up a bit. The state of disrepair reflects poorly on their work ethic. It continues to crumble like their empire.
12 posted on 03/05/2008 8:47:33 PM PST by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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To: C210N

uuhhh - been there, seen that. Not sure, but don’t think so.


13 posted on 03/05/2008 9:56:10 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Live pure, speak true, right wrong and follow The King. (Tennyson))
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To: mamelukesabre

Then again...my Dad was a naval officer and an astronomer. He and my mother visited Stonehenge before it was fenced off, and he spent hours computing the solar progressions and seeing how it worked.


14 posted on 03/05/2008 10:01:14 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Live pure, speak true, right wrong and follow The King. (Tennyson))
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15 posted on 03/05/2008 10:41:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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To: blam

I’d build a Wal-Mart around it....


16 posted on 03/05/2008 11:08:40 PM PST by tracer
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To: gd124
You can see here just how close the roads pass by Stonehenge, you have to wonder about who decided to build them there.

Any State Highway Department here would do the same. Stonehenge has gotten off lightly; if it were a Civil War battlefield, the road would go smack through the center.

If Stonehenge were in Northern Virginia, it would have been bulldozed years ago to make room for townhouses or a strip mall. A stone or two might have been left as a gateway ornament to Stonehenge Commons.

17 posted on 03/06/2008 3:16:29 AM PST by sphinx
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To: mamelukesabre
"I never understood the fascination with stonehenge. It’s just what’s left over of a fort after the small stones were swiped to build hearths in peasant huts.'

Uh.....no....

That's not at all what Stonehenge was...wow.

Slim

18 posted on 03/06/2008 3:54:45 AM PST by Slim Pickens
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To: ME-262

lmao


19 posted on 03/06/2008 4:02:40 AM PST by commonguymd (Let the socialists duke it out.)
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To: mamelukesabre

where did you hear that?


20 posted on 03/06/2008 4:52:44 AM PST by wafflehouse (How many boards would the Mongols horde if the Mongol hordes got bored?)
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To: Slim Pickens

Really? Prove it.


21 posted on 03/06/2008 5:07:44 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: wafflehouse

The voices in my head told me.


22 posted on 03/06/2008 5:08:10 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: blam

Didn’t Clark Griswold back into it and knock it down in European Vacation?


23 posted on 03/06/2008 5:10:32 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: blam
Click here to find out how to make your own Stonehenge
24 posted on 03/06/2008 5:10:51 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: blam


Greetings from Texas where we have our own Stonehenge II and even a couple Easter Island heads. These are 20 miles from my house. ;o)

Remember the Alamo!
25 posted on 03/06/2008 5:17:25 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: N. Theknow

Neat, thanks.


26 posted on 03/06/2008 5:22:52 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: ArmyTeach

Sounds interesting. I’ve been to America’s Stonehenge and done the same thing, but I’ve never been to the real one.


27 posted on 03/06/2008 5:25:54 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: Liberty Valance
It looks like your Stonehenge is complete.

You also have that row of Cadilacs buried nose down there in Texas.

28 posted on 03/06/2008 5:56:12 AM PST by GingisK
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To: mamelukesabre

Why don’t you prove what you said?

There’s no evidence at all that Stonehenge was a fort. We might as well go ahead and prove that it wasn’t a 2000BC KFC.


29 posted on 03/06/2008 6:16:05 AM PST by Andy Ross (A Scot in Trondheim)
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To: Andy Ross

There’s no evidence at all that Stonehenge was a fort. We might as well go ahead and prove that it wasn’t a 2000BC KFC.
____________

Silly you. There was no Kentucky back then.

It was the first Arthur Treachers Fish ‘n’ Chips.


30 posted on 03/06/2008 7:20:37 AM PST by dmz
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To: Andy Ross

Oh for crying out loud. Use a little common sense.

First of all, those large stones of stonehenge are obviously doorways and or windows. This is the way they made doorways back then when buildings were constructed of primitive dry masonry.

So stonehenge is a building. Not a supernatural calender or some druid mumbo jumbo nonsense with majical powers.

Over the centuries, all the small stones have been stolen. Some of the large stones are gone as well.

Now, all that remains of the mystery is WHAT KIND OF BUILDING is it? Hint: it’s a very important building, or no one would have gone to the trouble of building it. It has to do with life and death...the most important of all subjects. THat leaves you with two possibilities...military, or religion.

Narrow windows that are not wide enough for a person to fit through are typical of a fortress for archers to shoot arrows through. Narrow doorways are good places to fight off enemies that outnumber you in hand to hand combat.

It’s a military building...a fort.


31 posted on 03/06/2008 11:42:03 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: mamelukesabre
LOL!

You are funny.

32 posted on 03/06/2008 11:52:09 AM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: mamelukesabre

LOL


33 posted on 03/06/2008 10:54:52 PM PST by wafflehouse (How many boards would the Mongols horde if the Mongol hordes got bored?)
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To: skeeter

“And noone knew who dey were or what dey were doin”


34 posted on 03/07/2008 4:30:33 AM PST by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: mamelukesabre
There is absolutely no archeological proof that Stonehenge was a fort. Furthermore, Genius, there are SERIOUS defensive deficiencies to building a "fort" in the middle of a flat, open plain that is open to attack on all sides.

Now, unless you have "proof" to support your specious claims...

Stop wasting my time and go read a history book. Slim

35 posted on 03/22/2008 4:41:37 AM PDT by Slim Pickens
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To: Slim Pickens

I just outlined gobs of proof. As for wasting your time, well, you’re wasting your own time. I’m not forcing you to type out that post...GENIUS.


36 posted on 03/22/2008 7:10:02 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: mamelukesabre
Proof is not your opinion, proof is tangible evidence that can be demonstrated and correlated- such as the thousands of studies on Stonehenge's astronomical alignments and the fact that it's a poor defensive structure by any measure.

Of course, I've never heard any modern archeologist claim that Stonehenge was a fort, but you're smarter than they are, right?

Compelling me to correct your ignorance IS in fact forcing me to waste my time. Did you find that history book yet?

Slim

37 posted on 03/22/2008 7:26:02 AM PDT by Slim Pickens (Better put some ice on that....)
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To: Slim Pickens
THanks for the laugh. Stonehenge and all the flakes that study it always crack me up. Next you'll be telling me it's a portal to another dimension, or effects the earth's magnetic field some how.

A “scientific” study isn't proof of anything except that some quack got a grant. If you want to narrow down the definition of “proof”, the fact is there is no proving stonehenge is anything but a pile of rocks.

Astronomical alignments...LOL, I love that phrase! What a joke. Do you do horoscopes too?

38 posted on 03/22/2008 7:48:20 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: mamelukesabre
Wow, your ignorance is staggering. News flash- the 15th century is over, you can come out now...

Oh, and I said "astronomical," not "astrological." If you don't know the difference then you have no business arguing with me...It's like bringing a rubber band to a gun fight...

[/feeling sorry for you]

Slim

39 posted on 03/22/2008 8:24:53 AM PDT by Slim Pickens (Better put some ice on that....)
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To: blam

On par with the pyramids? LOL!


40 posted on 03/22/2008 8:25:50 AM PDT by purpleraine
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