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Iraqi Army to Ditch AK-47s for M-16s ^ | February 27, 2008 | Christian Lowe

Posted on 03/06/2008 10:27:33 AM PST by gandalftb

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To: FreeAtlanta
If Iraq is showing loyalty to us by buying our equipment and creating jobs here in the USA, it could be a good sign for the future.

They are. The Iraqi Army is paying cash on the barrel head for these rifles.


121 posted on 03/07/2008 6:36:54 AM PST by Lurker (Pimping my blog:
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To: tumblindice

Canoe paddles!

122 posted on 03/07/2008 7:59:54 AM PST by HenpeckedCon (Deport them all... Let God sort them out!)
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To: LSUfan
The other problem was that it was so recognizable to the enemy and they knew only NCOs carried them. My Dad was one of 12 surviving sergeants out of 24 in his company on Saipan, carried a Thompson only, loved it. The M-4 was very light, portable, good for close in fighting, round was a little weak. Short barrel is very easy to swing, the Marines are allowing carbine variants and flat top receivers now for the M-16. Folding stocks are being considered also.

The M-14 in my opinion is the most accurate semi-automatic ever made. Used to have one, too heavy for deer hunting, geez, getting old. Carry an AR-15 now. Funny we shipped 8,000 M-16s to the Israelis for distribution to the Palestinian Defense Force, first thing they asked for and threw away their AKs.

123 posted on 03/07/2008 9:19:10 AM PST by gandalftb (Ruthless action may be only clarity...quickly, awake (Capt. Willard, Apocalypse Now))
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To: gandalftb

My Saiga .223 has never failed to chamber, I feed it 5.56 and various .223REM, brass, steel case, surplus whatever I put in it...

124 posted on 03/07/2008 10:01:21 AM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: denydenydeny

Yeah, the ammo angle is interesting...but it stores better than the author admits...and the 3rd world firefights aren’t spraying a lot of ammo from infantry before each soldier dies or retires.

I do, however, like the idea of Iraqi friendlies going to .223 so that local bad guys can’t just steal our guys’ ammo for their AK-47’s.

The better reason, though, for swapping the Iraqis over to M-16’s and the like is that these are more accurate weapons at a distance than AK-47’s and 74’s...and we want friendly Iraqis concentrating on shot placement rather than shot quantity.

Let the bad guys “fire for effect.” Our side should be shooting for kills.

125 posted on 03/07/2008 2:02:23 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Lurker
"There isn't a weapon on the planet more durable than the Automat Kalashnikov Model of 1947."

Perhaps true for small caliber automatics, but most certainly *not* accurate to say when thinking in terms of bolt action rifles (or even lever-action weapons such as a Winchester 30-30).

126 posted on 03/07/2008 2:06:53 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
The 7.62mm round is considered a 'medium' caliber. The 5.56mm round is considered 'small'.

As far as durability comparisons go try this with your Remington 700 or your granddads Winchester.

Pull one of them from underneath the rotting corpse of an enemy soldier who's been laying in a rice paddy for a few days. Hose it off with plain water and toss it in your locker for a month in the SE Asian jungle heat and humidity.

Take it to the range, kick the action open because it's rusted shut. Put 120 rounds through it.

Repeat the toss it in the locker part and the 120 rounds part (without cleaning) once a month or so for 11 months.

Then get back to me about it's 'durability'.


127 posted on 03/07/2008 2:27:29 PM PST by Lurker (Pimping my blog:
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To: gandalftb; All
TOP 10:Combat Rifles - AK 47 (No.1)

An interesting Discovery Channel video.

I'm sure you more experienced hands and operators may have varying opinions on the selection of Top 10 and the order thereof.

I just had to chuckle at the scene that showed some guy trying to straighten the barrel of an AK by beating on it with an adjustable wrench.

Regards, and Stand Fast!


128 posted on 03/07/2008 2:42:21 PM PST by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie!!)
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To: Lurker
I always come back to the story told by David Hackworth in his Steel My Soldiers' Hearts.

The men under his command were reconfiguring a firebase and they were using bulldozers to rearrange the berms. One sweep of one of the dozers revealed the body of a Viet Cong, who had been killed in an assault the previous autumn. The body had been entombed in the dirt of the berm for six months. He was still clutching his AK.

Hackworth pulled the weapon off the body, pulled back the charging handle, and fired off a round. After the weapon had been buried in the jungle for six months.

129 posted on 03/07/2008 8:26:17 PM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Ammo is not particularly difficult to manufacture from scratch even for a poorly industrialized nation. It isn’t a high tech process.

130 posted on 03/12/2008 7:49:33 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: from occupied ga

Less with generic 7.62, but 5.56x45mm NATO is terribly hard to machine and load to the specifications of the M-16. The propellant has to be formulated to rigid specifications and exact amounts, or the machine gun is very prone to misfire and jamming.

It is a fickle weapon at best, and I suspect that it was done precisely to prevent M-16s or their ammo from proliferation.

131 posted on 03/12/2008 8:04:31 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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