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Home schooling unlawful, says California court
OneNewsNow ^ | 3/6/2008 | Allie Martin and Jody Brown

Posted on 03/06/2008 1:31:14 PM PST by fweingart

A three-judge panel of the California Court of Appeal has determined parents in that state have no legal right to home school. A Christian attorney in Sacramento says unless the ruling is reversed, literally thousands of students in the Golden State will be subject to criminal sanctions. (click here for special webcast starting at 2 p.m. CST)

California Justice H. Walter Croskey has stated in an opinion that "parents who fail to [comply with school enrollment laws] may be subject to a criminal complaint against them, found guilty of an infraction, and subject to imposition of fines or an order to complete a parent education and counseling program." The opinion was issued in the case of one family who enrolled their daughter in Sunland Christian School, a private home-schooling program based in Sylmar.

The ruling reverses an earlier opinion from a Superior Court that found that "parents have a constitutional right to school their children in their own home." But in his reversal, Croskey refers to the "ruse of enrolling [children] in a private school and then letting them stay home and be taught by a non-credentialed parent."

Brad Dacus, president of the Sacramento-based Pacific Justice Institute, calls the scope of the decision "breathtaking."

"It not only attacks traditional home schooling, but also calls into question home schooling through charter schools and teaching children at home via independent study through public and private schools," he explains.

According to Dacus, the ruling goes against prior court decisions. "Case law in federal court and by the U.S. Supreme Court [has] already recognized that parents have a fundamental right over the education of their children," he points out. "And in fact, the lower-court judge in this decision ... actually ruled that these parents had a constitutional right to home school their children. But it was reversed by this three-judge panel in this appellate court."

Dacus says an appeal has already been filed by his firm on the school's behalf. "We're going to try to have this decision non-published and specifically tabled until a final determination by the State Supreme Court," he says. And if the decision is not reversed, says the attorney, "more than 166,000 students currently receiving an education at home will be subject to criminal sanctions."

For the time being, the decision affects four counties in the Los Angeles metro area. Sunland Christian School, says the Pacific Justice Institute, has been in full compliance with the requirements of California law for more than 20 years.


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"parents who fail to [comply with school enrollment laws] may be subject to a criminal complaint against them, found guilty of an infraction, and subject to imposition of fines or an order to complete a parent education and counseling program."

Americans fought a war for independence, now it appears we need a revolution.

1 posted on 03/06/2008 1:31:15 PM PST by fweingart
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To: fweingart
Americans fought a war for independence, now it appears we need a revolution.

what we have now is a government of the liberals, by the liberals, and for the liberals.

2 posted on 03/06/2008 1:33:51 PM PST by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: fweingart

Will the last sane person to leave California, please remember to lock the gate on your way out................


3 posted on 03/06/2008 1:34:09 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: fweingart
Home schooling unlawful, says California court..

But educating illegal aliens in State schools at taxpayer expense is just fine..

4 posted on 03/06/2008 1:35:04 PM PST by Wil H
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To: fweingart
A three-judge panel of the California Court of Appeal has determined parents in that state have no legal right to home school

FORCED INDOCTRINATION PING!!

5 posted on 03/06/2008 1:35:12 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: fweingart

Oh boy. Here’s a 500-post thread in the making.


6 posted on 03/06/2008 1:35:24 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (We've checked, and all your zeroes are OK. We're still working on your ones.)
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To: fweingart

California Court rulings are unlawful, says home schoolers.


7 posted on 03/06/2008 1:35:26 PM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: kingattax

I lived in California for a long time. It used to be a great state....used to.

I’ve always believed that when the next civil war erupts in America, California will be the state where the conflagration begins.


8 posted on 03/06/2008 1:35:52 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Change.....that's what we will have left in our pockets if a Democrat gets elected president!)
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To: fweingart

I’d post what I think should be done to this SOB judge but the moderators on FR tend to frown on that kind of thing.


9 posted on 03/06/2008 1:36:13 PM PST by PeterFinn (I am not voting for McCain. No way, no how.)
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To: fweingart

Throw down time?


10 posted on 03/06/2008 1:36:15 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: fweingart

All your children are belong to us.


12 posted on 03/06/2008 1:36:25 PM PST by Lexington Green (“The first battlefield is the rewriting of history.” -- Karl Marx)
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To: StarCMC

HOME SCHOOL ALERT!


13 posted on 03/06/2008 1:37:38 PM PST by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: fweingart

I have had several reasons to be proud of my state recently. This is one of them. My state has been and remains very friendly to home schoolers.


14 posted on 03/06/2008 1:38:02 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Pride in the USA

Coming soon to neighboring state(s), no doubt. Sick!!


15 posted on 03/06/2008 1:39:57 PM PST by lonevoice (John McCain was a Kinoki foot pad in the Reagan Revolution)
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To: kingattax
But, but, but...can't we all just get along?

We must end the gridlock and join hands with our leftist, marxist brethern for the good of the country.

Hillary's the one! She'll fight for families, especially since she knows so much about them. Her family is about as maladjusted as the fictional Addams Family.

Don't we want someone of experience to answer the White House phone at 3:00 AM?

If Hillary is elected, the only one answering the phone at that hour will be the hillbilly, marxist rapist with someone like Babs on the other end.

Hillary, of course, is an early to bed person who prefers to pull the covers over her head, turn on her flashlight and cavort with her live-in muslim.

16 posted on 03/06/2008 1:39:58 PM PST by fweingart (Obama-Clinton (A ticket that will change our lives forever!))
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To: All
"parents who fail to [comply with school enrollment laws] may be subject to a criminal complaint against them, found guilty of an infraction, and subject to imposition of fines or an order to complete a parent education and counseling program." So in other words.. We (The state) want to indoctrinate your children without your interference and every one can be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator of the slowest child in classes.
17 posted on 03/06/2008 1:40:16 PM PST by Kitanis (Kitanis,)
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To: fweingart

Listen up, Subjects!

You WILL submit your children to become wards of The State. Assimilate into the Collective willingly or the forced submission will not go well for you.

You have NO choice in this matter.

(But is seems leftists are FOR “choice” on just about every other matter.)


18 posted on 03/06/2008 1:40:30 PM PST by subterfuge (Obama will NOT get the nomination.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

It’s still a great state. I live in conservative country in the foothills above Sacramento. Granted, I work downtown but it’s not bad here either. I get a big grin every Friday as I go past the war protesters at the corner of L and 15th. Bunch of ancient hippies, I can smell the patchouli from em now...


20 posted on 03/06/2008 1:41:46 PM PST by Lx ((Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.))
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To: fweingart

Orwell returns.


21 posted on 03/06/2008 1:41:56 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: subterfuge
Wait till the muslims take over!

All traditional judges will be missed. They'll be replaced by raggedy-headed mullahs.

22 posted on 03/06/2008 1:42:00 PM PST by fweingart (Obama-Clinton (A ticket that will change our lives forever!))
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To: fweingart
Outrageous.
23 posted on 03/06/2008 1:42:13 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: WVNan

all i can say is america is worth saving, whatever it takes


24 posted on 03/06/2008 1:43:23 PM PST by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: fweingart
"...be taught by a non-credentialed parent..."

What about a non-credentialed private school teacher?

The judge has opened Pandora's Box. Chaos...
25 posted on 03/06/2008 1:43:25 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Fred Thompson/Clarence Thomas 2008!])
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To: fweingart

Time for people with kids to LEAVE the Peepul’s Republik of Kaleeephonia.

At this point, it’s NOT fixable. Abandon ship; let it sink.


26 posted on 03/06/2008 1:43:49 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: fweingart

Another crappy ruling from the appeals court out of Californika. Honestly, this state is quickly becoming a marxist region. Get ready for a big earthquake to hit soon!


27 posted on 03/06/2008 1:44:26 PM PST by princess leah
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To: Wil H
But educating illegal aliens in State schools at taxpayer expense is just fine.. - Good point, we should keep them uneducated.
29 posted on 03/06/2008 1:46:05 PM PST by SF Republican (Conservatives wanted all or nothing, and they got it.)
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To: fweingart
We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission- Ayn Rand
30 posted on 03/06/2008 1:46:39 PM PST by mnehrling (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me. -Ayn Rand)
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To: BenLurkin

Follow the money folks, they are raising taxes for school funding. They are missing that federal subsidy for each child in home-school and the bus riders.


31 posted on 03/06/2008 1:46:43 PM PST by momincombatboots (World changing power in the blood)
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To: holdonnow

FYI!


32 posted on 03/06/2008 1:47:45 PM PST by CedarDave (John, When will you treat conservatives the way you do fellow senators John, Hillary and Barack?)
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To: fweingart

Coming to a state near you.


33 posted on 03/06/2008 1:47:49 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Here’s a 500-post thread in the making.

There are already at least two others on the same subject.

California Court Rules Homeschooling Illegal ^

California Court Rules Homeschooling Illegal ^

35 posted on 03/06/2008 1:49:59 PM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Experience Change!)
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To: Wil H

“But educating illegal aliens in State schools at taxpayer expense is just fine”

You just hit on to something, I guess they want to force more kids into the public schools to help pay for the budget shortfall. Right now the schools are screaming because their budgets are being cut. And another thing, with all of the social liberal agenda being taught in the curriculm, especially the new one about promoting the gay life-style, isn’t forcing people with different beliefs to attend a form of religious persecution? Whoever the lawyers are on the other side, I hope they they make this part of their argument. It is unconstitutional for the public schools to force people into their system when they have a liberal political and social agenda.


37 posted on 03/06/2008 1:50:13 PM PST by rodeo-mamma
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To: Lx
It’s still a great state. I live in conservative country in the foothills above Sacramento.

What part of the foothills? I live in Amador county, just about as conservative as they get. Except for the newspapers that are owned by sac bee, the people are conservative and prove it.

38 posted on 03/06/2008 1:50:21 PM PST by calex59
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To: fweingart
Wait till the muslims take over! All traditional judges will be missed. They'll be replaced by raggedy-headed mullahs.

Well yeah, we all know that's coming. We can only hope the slide backwards into the 4th century is a slow one.

39 posted on 03/06/2008 1:52:55 PM PST by subterfuge (Obama will NOT get the nomination.)
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To: momincombatboots

It is a bit bigger than that.

This would effect ALL private schools as well. All of those kids would be forced into public schools to be introduced into forced homosexuality, for their own good. They won’t be allowed to say “mom” or “dad” either. And the girls are to allow poor mixed up boys into their school bathrooms without complaint.

Sure some of this has to do with money. The rest has to do with the indoctrination. It is a “two fer” for them


42 posted on 03/06/2008 1:56:33 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: Jack Black

CW II Ping


43 posted on 03/06/2008 1:57:35 PM PST by oblomov
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To: calex59

Above El Dorado Hills in Cameron Park/ Shingle Springs.
Amador county is nice.


44 posted on 03/06/2008 1:57:41 PM PST by Lx ((Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.))
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To: fweingart

I am completely dumbfounded. How can people even come to such depraved minds. Whenever people mess with children and parents rights it makes my blood boil. I am blown away.


45 posted on 03/06/2008 1:58:00 PM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: fweingart

We can’t have kids at home missing out on all that taxpayer funded education about gay life styles or how to put a condom on a cucumber can we?


46 posted on 03/06/2008 1:58:22 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: fweingart; All
As I mentioned in a related thread, Californians evidently don't involve themselves in their state's legislative process. This has made them vulnerable to laws that are badly worded as evidenced by the homeschooling controversy.

I have already noted that the states made the 11th A. of the federal Constitution essentially to tell the USSC to shove it for deciding against the states in Chisholm v. Georgia, 1793. So Californians can either follow in the footsteps of the states and the 11th A. and use their voting muscle to change their state's laws, some of these laws evidently badly worded, or Californians can continue sitting on their hands, allowing themselves to be voluntary slaves to their lawmakers and judges.

47 posted on 03/06/2008 1:58:33 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Red Badger

Or blow it in place.That would be better.The place is the plague.


48 posted on 03/06/2008 1:59:12 PM PST by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: fweingart
A three-judge panel of the California Court of Appeal has determined parents in that state have no legal right to home school. A Christian attorney in Sacramento says unless the ruling is reversed, literally thousands of students in the Golden State will be subject to criminal sanctions. (click here for special webcast starting at 2 p.m. CST)

Attention all home-schoolers! Come to Arizona! We need more folks like you, and it's obvious the liberals in California hate you. You'll find lower taxes here, better standard of living, and self-deporting illegal aliens! And we also have Sheriff Joe Arpaio upholding the laws of our great nation!

So c'mon out and tell the remaining liberals in your state to stay where they are and drown like rats when their socialist state tanks!

49 posted on 03/06/2008 1:59:32 PM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

“What about a non-credentialed private school teacher?”

EXCATLY!! I figure they are endangered as well. Both private schools and homeschools use the same law in California. I seem to remember in the ‘80’s that there had been an effort to make ALL teachers to get credentials, homeschool and private. It failed. I guess that they want to try again.


50 posted on 03/06/2008 2:00:00 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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