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Terri Schiavo's Family Launches New Radio Program on Protecting the Disabled
Life News ^ | 3/6/08 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 03/06/2008 4:34:20 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
The McCain Scrutiny...

The elites have granted us one wish out of three choices, or none of the above. This one is the least antagonistic of Terri's Legacy, and this is what he says:

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In the brief news conference, Baptist Press asked McCain in light of his position on the sanctity of human life and his position on "judges who ... legislate from the bench," to clarify comments he made last year about Congress' intervention in the Terri Schiavo case. He told MSNBC, "It's an American tragedy." Baptist Press asked McCain to define what he meant by that.

"It's very sad when you see a situation such as this, it's very sad, I think just by looking at the situation it was a terrible situation and one that probably the state should had handled in retrospect and it was a very sad, sad situation and moved all of us who are -- and the plight of this situation moved every American," McCain said.

Democratic presidential candidate and U.S. Sen. Barack Obama said during a debate Feb. 26 that he regrets his 2005 vote allowing Congress to get involved in the case involving Terri Schiavo, the severely disabled woman from Florida who died of starvation and dehydration after nutrition and hydration were discontinued.

Obama made the comments during a Democratic debate with Hillary Clinton. Both were asked if there were any words or votes they'd "like to take back." Clinton cited her vote authorizing the war in Iraq; Obama, his Schiavo vote.

During a debate last year, Republican John McCain called the matter a "very, very difficult issue" and seemed himself to have some regrets.

"All of us were deeply moved by the pictures and the depiction of this terrible, tragic case," McCain said. "In retrospect, we should have taken some more time, looked at it more carefully, and probably [we] reacted too hastily."...................

McCain visits Chick-fil-A offices

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51 posted on 03/11/2008 4:02:22 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: wagglebee

I have no issues with the Shiavo family making a buck out of Terri’s life, but the problem is that if you don’t get on with your lives after a horrible death than you are never able to find peace. The Shiavo family will be mirerable for the rest of their lives unless they get a handle of themselves and stop making themselves professional victims.


52 posted on 03/11/2008 4:05:18 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: All; floriduh voter; amdgmary
The McCain Scrutiny meets the New Crist Minstrels...

This piece comes from an Asian news service.

Conventional wisdom also says that because he's a white man facing a black man or white woman (barring some extraordinary occurrence) at the top of the other ticket, McCain should have a female or minority (or both) on his ticket. Since McCain is a senator - and his wife runs the family business he married into - he should have a governor or someone with an administrative background. Since McCain is a moderate Republican, he should have a rock-solid conservative on the ticket. Since he represents a western state, McCain should tap an easterner, preferably from a swing state that the running mate could tip into McCain's corner.

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Crist almighty?

Virtually every Republican governor has gotten at least a glance as a McCain running mate. One of the favorites is Florida's Charlie Crist. He first came to national attention as state attorney general "Chain Gang Charlie", advocating reinstatement of putting inmates to work outdoors shackled together. Florida is a key state to win - ask Al Gore - Crist is enormously popular, 52 years young, and very tight with McCain. During his 2006 gubernatorial run, Crist asked President George W Bush to stay away while welcoming McCain.

But Crist may be a bit too much of a maverick for the Republican knucklewalkers McCain hopes to energize. As attorney general, Crist bucked the far-right fringe by respecting Teri Schiavo's right to die in that ugly case. And, like McCain, he's one of these family values guys who's been divorced (a year after marrying his one and only wife ... hmmm). As governor, he's tangled with insurance companies, so there goes the free market vote. Both of those crowds would prefer Florida's ex-governor Jeb Bush, but with the Democrats trying to portray McCain as George Bush's third term, there's no way the name Bush would go on his ticket.

McCain's supremely cynical VP option... By Muhammad Cohen

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53 posted on 03/11/2008 4:10:22 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Greece-ing the skids...

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THESSALONIKI – Few people – at least in Europe – seem to believe in life after death these days. Craig Ewert had come to a point where he did not think much of life before death either. On a September morning in 2006 in a nondescript Zurich apartment, Craig, terminally ill with Lou Gehrig’s disease, swallowed a glass of sodium phenobarbital, then a sip of apple juice to kill the taste. Forty-five minutes later, with his wife Mary by his side, the 59-year-old former university professor died peacefully. Craig was what the local press disparagingly calls a “suicide tourist.”

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“Throughout my career, I have never returned to the same subject twice but I decided to make an exception with euthanasia as a result of the Terri Schiavo case,” says Zaritsky, speaking of the brain-damaged Florida woman at the center of a bitter right-to-die case between her husband and right-wing Christians as well as the Bush administration a few years ago. “Given the appalling reaction to the Schiavo case, I decided it was important to make another film,” he says.

Of course, two or perhaps even 200 documentaries will not be enough to change general attitudes and public policy on the subject. It’s the “R” word. “I am not a religious person,” the Oscar-winning Canadian director says. “I believe that organized religion prevents society and governments from making social advances that the public clearly wants. This is certainly the case with euthanasia, which shows public support for the right to die consistently at 60 percent or more in nearly all Western countries.”

Critics see a “slippery slope” whereby mercy killing degenerates into involuntary euthanasia, with elderly or sick people choosing to end their lives for fear of becoming a burden on their families. Nevertheless, laws permitting assisted suicide and/or voluntary euthanasia have also been passed over the past 15 years or so in Oregon in the USA, the Netherlands and Belgium...............

A ‘suicide tourist’ bids farewell

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54 posted on 03/11/2008 4:19:32 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: napscoordinator; wagglebee
You are sooo right!

But Mikey Schiavo hasn't made much out of this deal anyway, except he exposed his intentions even more. It is ironic, you must be noticing, that this killer gets away with a state sponsored murder and still sees himself as a victim. I do wonder how his family is doing and wifey wondering when or if he pulls the plug on her one day.

Thankfully by great contrast the Schindlers are able to pull together what limited funds they can find to courageously help others facing the same fate their daughter Terri faced. And thankfully their perseverance shows some good result as we fight this pernicious euthanasia effort.

55 posted on 03/11/2008 4:28:16 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Haleigh Poutre...

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During debate last week on legislation pertaining to the abuse and neglect of children, which is intended to strengthen the Commonwealth's oversight of children under the charge of the State, an amendment written by Sen. Scott Brown, R-Wrentham, was passed unanimously. The amendment protects victims from those who have been charged with their abuse or neglect.

Brown filed “Haleigh’s Amendment” in response to the tragedy of the Haleigh Poutre case in Westfield in 2005. Haleigh had been hospitalized as the result of alleged abuse at the hands of her adoptive mother and stepfather who had burned and beaten her into a coma with a baseball bat. While on life support, Haleigh’s stepfather attempted to obtain guardianship of her even though he was suspected of the abuse.

This amendment would prohibit an individual from being appointed a guardian or medical proxy if they have been charged with assault and battery, or neglect of the incapacitated child. In this case, the amendment would have removed any ambiguity as soon as the stepfather was charged.

Currently, the court may appoint a guardian for a person who is unable to make or communicate informed decisions due to physical incapacity or illness.

‘Haleigh’s Amendment’

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56 posted on 03/11/2008 4:31:48 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Reminder...


57 posted on 03/11/2008 4:32:56 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Wagglebee thread on idle Americans...

Hollywood, CA (LifeNews.com) -- Popular television talent show American Idol is under fire again for a second anti-poverty campaign that will funnel donations to international groups that support abortion. The program has aligned itself with Save the Children and UNICEF, two groups that actively work with pro-abortion organizations............

American Idol Under Fire for Second Program Supporting Pro-Abortion Groups

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58 posted on 03/11/2008 4:37:35 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
This is a Lynch effort I could support. Thread by wagglebee.

Lathrup Village, MI (LifeNews.com) -- Acting on a tip form a local pro-life group, Michigan officials have found parts of unborn children, medical waste and patient records in a dumpster outside an abortion center. The potentially illegal dumping occurred outside the WomanCare abortion center on Southfield Road and the contents are believed to be from the abortion business.

Sgt. Vincent Lynch of the Lathrup Village Police Department told the Detroit Free Press newspaper that a local pro-life group tipped off officials about the problems..........

Medical Waste, Patient Records Found in Michigan Abortion Center Dumpster

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59 posted on 03/11/2008 4:42:32 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
It fits. Planned Parenthood is just being P.P.

Thread by wagglebee.

Los Angeles, CA (LifeNews.com) -- A former Planned Parenthood official has filed a lawsuit against affiliates in California saying they overcharged the state hundreds of millions of dollars on birth control. P. Victor Gonzalez says the abortion business fired him because he raised concerns about the illegal practices.

Gonzalez says his own internal audit estimates that Planned parenthood overcharged California taxpayers for purchasing birth control by at least $180 million...........

Lawsuit: California Planned Parenthood Overcharged State Millions for Birth Control

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60 posted on 03/11/2008 4:46:41 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

PERFECT response!!!


61 posted on 03/11/2008 5:59:26 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 8mmMauser
A much needed amendment and would reduce horrific abuse. Before I became aware of Terri's case, I would have taken for granted that Haleigh's stepfather or the sadistic Michael Schiavo would never have been granted guardianship - that is demented.
62 posted on 03/11/2008 9:04:22 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: 8mmMauser

Chain Gang Charlie made sure that Terri was surrounded. He’s tough on everybody UNLESS THEY ARE BIG FUNDRAISERS or LIBERALS.


63 posted on 03/11/2008 11:38:23 AM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: 8mmMauser

McCain: American Tragedy? It was A MURDER BY JUDICIAL FIAT. He can’t step on the judiciary’s toes though so don’t expect McCain to ever stand up to WRONG, ACTIVIST JUDGES.


64 posted on 03/11/2008 11:39:53 AM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Reflections on Hastert and conservatives...

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While many issues Americans cared about remained trapped in congressional disputes, Hastert and DeLay made a point of pursuing legislation that was of great concern to the conservative base but either could not pass the Senate or was of little interest to the broader electorate. How out of step they could sometimes be was illustrated by efforts to intervene in the case of Terry Schiavo, who was determined by multiple doctors and courts to be in a persistent vegetative state, although her family disagreed with the diagnosis. State courts sided with her husband and his desire to allow her to die. Congress tried to reverse the ruling by forcing the issue into federal courts. The federal courts wouldn't play along, however, and embarrassed Congress by chiding it for  overstepping its bounds.

As the disconnect between GOP leadership and public priorities grew, so did voter anger and mistrust. Hastert quit the leadership after the party's loss a year and half ago and resigned in mid-term. But it seems apparent with the demoralizing loss of Hastert's seat, Denny's seat, that the woes he helped heap on his party may go on a lot longer. Especially if conservatives and GOP leaders display no understanding of how they got in this fix in the first place.

Conservatives on the Edge

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65 posted on 03/12/2008 2:40:20 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Big of them...

Thread by wagglebee.

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A leading pro-abortion group has said it will not oppose a bill that will help reduce the number of abortions on babies who are potentially afflicted with Down Syndrome. The measure has already received approval from a Senate committee and is headed to the full chamber for a debate and vote.

Last month, the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee approved the Pre-natally and Post-natally Diagnosed Conditions Awareness Act on a unanimous vote.......

Pro-Abortion Group Won't Oppose Bill Reducing Abortions on Disabled Babies

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66 posted on 03/12/2008 2:44:57 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Libs tend to be selective by nature...

Thread by wagglebee.

Conservative voters long for another Ronald Reagan as president and his deeply felt pro-life views are still alluring to pro-life people long after his administration. Pro-life advocates always felt Reagan was "one of us" and understood their passion to protect unborn children -- but some revisionist historians would like nothing more than to confuse the record.

By misrepresenting President Reagan's abortion record, these historians can confuse and divide the grassroots pro-life community and make it more difficult to rally around future presidential candidate.

Florida State University associate professor of history Michael Creswell is the latest to engage in the practice............

Revisionist History: Misrepresenting President Ronald Reagan's Abortion Record

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67 posted on 03/12/2008 2:55:06 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
This article from Life News is in a separate thread by wagglebee. Perhaps it reveals a bit about this presidential candidate chosen for us by the elites.

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Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Presidential candidate John McCain addressed the debate over Terri Schiavo's euthanasia death but added little to his position other than to call the ordeal "very sad." His comments are the first since Barack Obama came under intense criticism saying he regretted supporting a bill to help her family prevent her ex-husband from killing her.

McCain addressed the debate over the disabled woman during a campaign stop last week the corporate headquarters of Chick-fil-A restaurant.

In a brief news conference following the event, Baptist Press reports that McCain called the entire situation relating to Terri "very sad" and a "great American tragedy."

"It's very sad when you see a situation such as this, it's very sad," McCain explained.

"I think just by looking at the situation it was a terrible situation and one that probably the state should have handled in retrospect," he added, according to Baptist Press. "[I]t was a very sad, sad situation and moved all of us who are -- and the plight of this situation moved every American."...................

John McCain Addresses Terri Schiavo Debate After Barack Obama's Flip-Flop

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68 posted on 03/13/2008 4:00:01 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Dobson frames the future direction of Christian leadership in terms of Terri...

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With a generation of U.S. Christian right leaders dead or aging, the founder of the conservative evangelical group Focus on the Family says he's concerned about the movement's future leadership.

James Dobson told a group of Christian broadcasters Tuesday night that the passing of Jerry Falwell, the Rev. D. James Kennedy and Ruth Bell Graham represent the end of an era.

The radio talk show host noted that others like Billy Graham, Chuck Colson, Pat Robertson, and Chuck Swindoll will also soon pass from the scene, and questioned the impact on the conservative Christian church.

"It causes me to wonder who will be left to carry the banner when this generation of leaders is gone," Dobson told an audience of nearly 1,400 at the National Religious Broadcasters conference.

"The question is, Will the younger generation heed the call? Who will defend the unborn child in the years to come? Who will plead for the Terri Schiavos of the world? Who's going to fight for the institution of marriage, which is on the ropes today."

Schiavo died in 2005 after being removed from a feeding tube in a high-profile battle between the woman's husband and her parents and siblings.

Dobson's comments come as national groups like the Christian Coalition are struggling, and the organizational muscle of the movement now rests with local pastors, not national figures...........

Dobson: Who will take up religious-right banner?

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69 posted on 03/13/2008 4:05:28 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Aussie Dasher; TheSarce
Here comes Dr. Death again, reinvigorated after his punishment for mass murder and serving a token of time in debt to society. Perhaps he even got a letter of reprimand for it.

Thread by Aussie Dasher. Thanks to The Sarce for the ping. I wonder what kinds of interest the thread will attract.

ASSISTED-SUICIDE advocate Jack Kevorkian, whose controversial tactics earned him the nickname Doctor Death, plans to run for the US Congress.

"We need some honesty and sincerity instead of corrupt government in Washington," Dr Kevorkian said when announcing his bid to his hometown newspaper in Michigan, the Oakland Press.

Dr Kevorkian, who spent more than eight years in jail for the murder of a man whose videotaped assisted suicide was aired on national television, claims he actively helped 130 people die...........

'Dr Death' to run for US Congress

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70 posted on 03/13/2008 4:13:30 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

Did you see that we also had some visitors on the thread that seem to think that Florida did the right thing executing Terri?


71 posted on 03/13/2008 4:46:31 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 8mmMauser
Barack Obama came under intense criticism saying he regretted supporting a bill to help her family prevent her ex-husband from killing her.

So, he supported hino killing her? Chalking up another mark against Hussein. Would someone please post how Washington voted on the bill, please.

72 posted on 03/13/2008 6:23:19 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: 8mmMauser

I’m outta here until the trolls that came to FR to post on Terri threads for their deathaversary reveling are zotted. They are agitators, a step up from disruptors. see ya, floriduh voter


73 posted on 03/13/2008 2:08:30 PM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: floriduh voter

It is inevitable that trolls and bot flies will buzz around Terri related threads especially around their second halloween, but they are staying away from Terri Dailies. I don’t expect much here except maybe an uninformed or two, a disgruntled or bad hair day type.


74 posted on 03/14/2008 2:41:22 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
The McCain Scrutiny...

I have posted my personal opinions on this guy before, sometimes salted with profanity, and offer this as a news item because of the source. We retort, you divide...

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With the Republican nominee for president settled at this point in the primary season and either Democratic nominee being totally anti-life and pro-abortion to a degree not even seen in the 1992 election, pro-life advocates and people of common sense need to seriously consider the stakes of the 2008 Presidential Race as it applies to the unborn, the elderly, and the medically dependent and disabled.

Granted there are those who consider Senator John McCain's recent votes on the funding of embryonic stem cell research to be a serious problem and will demand that he reverse himself before they agree to support him for president. This issue has been a concern and I have discussed the subject personally with the Senator on more than one occasion. I have asked him to realize that these are unborn human beings, to examine the recent breakthroughs in the field and to understand the scientific and moral significance of these latest trends. While he has not come completely around, it is my hope that his staff has and will continue to provide him with the latest information so that he can fully appreciate our position. I suspect that as he and his team study the issue they will realize that the pro-life position is correct and will embrace that position fully. There has been some progress as seen in his statement on the campaign website. It recognizes the serious moral questions involved and the need to respect human life. The important news is that leaders in the pro-life community have an open door to discuss the subject and that the Senator knows we are about what is in the best interests of the nation and the nation's children.

We all know the Senator's pro-life voting record. Here are some highlights.

  1. He supports reversal of Roe v. Wade.
  2. He opposes funding for pro-abortion groups such as Planned Parenthood.
  3. He has supported the Hyde Amendment to prevent taxpayers' funds from being used to pay for abortions.
  4. He has supported the Mexico City Policy as applied to preventing pro-abortion groups from using federal funds overseas to promote abortion.
  5. He supported and recently co-sponsored an amendment to a Senate health bill to permanently prevent federal funds from being used to perform abortions in Indian hospitals. This amendment recently passed the Senate 52-42.
  6. He supported the Unborn Victims of Violence Act.
  7. He voted for and co-sponsored the Federal Abortion Ban.
  8. He voted in support of parental consent and notification laws.
  9. He voted in favor of Supreme Court and appellate court judges who would view the Constitution as respecting the right to life.
  10. He has repeatedly voted to prohibit the District of Columbia from using federal funds or any taxpayer funds to provide abortion services.
These are just some of the major points in his 24 year record. McCain is also on record as voting to save the life of Terri Schiavo, a vote Barack Obama has publicly regretted. I will speak to that comment on another message.

The National Abortion Rights League has given McCain a 0% rating. They refer to his voting record as "solidly anti-choice." In fact when you read what NARAL has to say, you ask why is there any controversy on the pro-life side. Would that the rest of the Senate would vote this way on pro-life issues.

Now one must also acknowledge that as pro-lifers we have disagreed with him on such issues as campaign finance reform, especially as applied to grass roots organizations. Still, even in disagreement, our conversations ( by this I mean Arizona pro-life leaders and McCain) have been frank and respectful. We have stated our concerns and our areas of disapproval. I would expect that relationship to continue.

In today's news the McCain Campaign announced a list of Catholics who make up the Catholics for McCain National Steering Committee. Senator Sam Brownback, Governor Frank Keating, Deal Hudson, Austin Ruse, Tom Monaghan, and many other very well known Catholics are a part of this national steering committee. You will even find a lawyer from Arizona who has agreed to serve in that capacity. It is now time for all of us who are serious about protecting the small gains that we have made to make sure that the abortion industry does not take over the White House.

When Bill Clinton ran for president in 1992, he told the American people that he thought abortion should be "{safe, legal and rare." Just check out Jill Stanek's recent column on what that really meant.You will reminded of the terrible acts that Clinton committed against the unborn.

The bottom line is that a democrat in the White House, whether it is Obama or Hillary would be a disaster to the unborn children, to the medically dependent and disabled and to those who are vulnerable, whether they are the elderly or the infirm or the next Terri Schiavo. IF WE CARE about those potential situations, we must insure the election of John McCain.

The U.S. Supreme Court will have at least one and probably three vacancies during the next president's term of office. IF WE CARE about who will sit on the Supreme Court AND the courts of appeals throughout the country, we must work for the election of John McCain.

The pressure by the left to have a universal health care funded by the taxpayer will not let up. Hillary tried it in 1993. In her 1993 plan was an abortion mandate to have taxpayer funded abortions. It would also mean managed care and that could mean passive or even active euthanasia.A Clinton or Obama presidency would see the end of the Hyde Amendment to the annual appropriations bill. The passage of the Hyde Amendment has been responsible for saving the lives of over a million unborn children. IF YOU CARE about protecting these millions of unborn children, as well as your right to private health care, your right to select your own doctors and insurance plans, and your right not to have your tax dollars paying for a million abortions, then we must work for the election of John McCain.

In the end, we have two choices. One of them may not result in everything we want in a president (although he may surprise you), the other will insure the death of children and the end of much of what we have accomplished over these last 35 years. For unlike our efforts which are about restoring protection for all innocent human life, the pro-abortion industry is not content with just keeping abortion legal. The abortion industry wants to force government and therefore the taxpayer to pay for abortions. The abortion industry wants Catholic hospitals to provide abortions. And the abortion industry wants to punish all those who will not be silent about this holocaust. Remember how the abortion industry relentlessly for 20 years went after our friend Joe Scheidler. do you seriously think if they get into power, they will not use the power of government to destroy the pro-life pregnancy centers and the network of pro-life medical clinics throughout the country. does anyone remember the now New York governor and former attorney general Elliot Spitzer and how he tried to shut down the pregnancy centers in New York? Pro-lifers successfully fought that government attack. Interesting that the attacks came right after the election of Bill Clinton to the White House. Years later when there were women injured by the abortion industry, Spizter was nowhere it be found.

Right now Elliot Spitzer has some of his own problems.

So my friends and fellow pro-life activists, the choice is clear.

Choose life. Choose John McCain.

Cross-posted: Jakubczyk on Life

Choosing Life - Choosing McCain

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75 posted on 03/14/2008 2:54:00 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Perhaps we can all sit back and enjoy buttered popcorn and a beverage and just watch the implosion of colliding liberal values. It helps to recall that liberals project their own biases, hates and fears onto their perceived enemies, and sometimes it is their own. The frightening collision is like a freeway at rush hour in dense fog. It just keeps slamming.

Here, good old Hillary just didn't fight hard enough to have Terri killed.

I'm not sure whether this writer means Hill or Hell, but I guess one of them is freezing over.

Of course, it doesn't. The fact is, some of the most incisive feminist writers and effective feminist activists - people like Katha Pollitt, Frances Kissling and Eve Ensler, among many others - are backing Obama. The late Molly Ivins - a fiercely progressive, genuinely populist Texan in her 60s - spelled out her opposition to Clinton in January of 2006, in a column bluntly titled "I will not support Hillary Clinton for president". "Enough. Enough triangulation, calculation and equivocation. Enough clever straddling, enough not offending anyone," she wrote. "This is not a Dick Morris election. Sen. Clinton is apparently incapable of taking a clear stand on the war in Iraq, and that alone is enough to disqualify her. Her failure to speak out on Terri Schiavo, not to mention that gross pandering on flag-burning, are just contemptible little dodges.".........

Hell hath no fury

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76 posted on 03/14/2008 3:05:28 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Because of the source, Washington .com Post, or whatever, I can only do a teensie excerpt. Be sure to read the whole thing. I feel bad for Eleanore Clift and her loss as I see her book being used as a counter weight by cronies on the left, an attempt to balance from the left, the heavy truth of the right, Terri's Legacy. That is a problem anyway with the left. As they love mirrors, and they show their image is just as pretty as what is reflected, they fail to account for the reality it is only an image and an opposite in every way. So here it is with the expected distortions of reality from imperfect prism.

We all remember that brain-damaged woman who was exhibited -- flaunted might be a better word -- on our television screens, the same set of clips over and over, of a vacant-eyed, sweet-faced female who'd been in what some people called a persistent vegetative state for 15 years. Poor Terri Schiavo. Her husband, Michael, wanted to remove her life-support systems, but her parents would have none of it. They took Michael to court and accused him of every crime in the book. Then, as we all remember, the politicians got wind of this drama, and a particularly awful kind of hell broke loose. Every opportunist in the land (or so it seemed) elbowed rudely for a place in front of the television cameras. Every imaginable kind of distasteful behavior took place outside Terri Schiavo's Florida hospice, and the news media were more than happy to oblige, because the public couldn't stop watching. It was a shame and a disgrace on every possible level. And because she is a contributing editor of Newsweek and a panelist on "The McLaughlin Group," Eleanor Clift was a part of it........

A Personal Loss, a National Shame

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77 posted on 03/14/2008 3:19:07 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: floriduh voter; 8mmMauser; BykrBayb; Sun; bjs1779; Lesforlife
I’m outta here until the trolls that came to FR to post on Terri threads for their deathaversary reveling are zotted. They are agitators, a step up from disruptors. see ya, floriduh voter

FV, PLEASE stay (at least on the Terri Dailies thread), we need you to help us tell people the truth about what really happened.

I have long since stopped caring what these deathbot bastards think or say about me, I know what side I am on and I know what side they are on.

Here are a few quotes by Holocaust Survivor and Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Elie Wiesel that I have long found comforting:

"The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference."

"Indifference, to me, is the epitome of evil."

"I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented."

"There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest."

"Wherever men and women are persecuted because of their race, religion, or political views, that place must - at that moment - become the center of the universe."

And we must ALWAYS find comfort in these words:

31 And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. 32 And all nations shall be gathered together before him, and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left. 34 Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in:

36 Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. 37 Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry, and fed thee; thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 And when did we see thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and covered thee? 39 Or when did we see thee sick or in prison, and came to thee? 40 And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.
-- Matthew 5:31-40

78 posted on 03/14/2008 5:04:19 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: floriduh voter; wagglebee

I think pro-lifers are kidding themselves if they think that McCain will be any better on issues that matter to us than Hillary or Obama would be. No matter which of these three is elected, Soros et.al. will be pulling the strings and implementing the same culture of death agenda. I hope I am proved wrong should he be elected.


79 posted on 03/14/2008 8:01:17 AM PDT by penowa
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Announcement from the Foundation for any who can tune in!

.................................

March 14, 2008

Please remember to tune into the debut of America's Lifeline which begins Saturday, March 15, on Talk Radio 860 WGUL at 3pm, Eastern time.

The purpose of this program is to educate Americans about their health care rights and to give them the tools they need to protect themselves, and loved ones who may be sick or disabled, from the threat of euthanasia.

America's Lifeline will also be streamed worldwide via the internet at Talk Radio 860 WGUL. The program is poised to expand into other Florida radio markets including Orlando and Miami with the option of expanding further throughout the nation in the future.

America's Lifeline is co-hosted by Bobby Schindler and Suzanne Vitadamo, directors of the Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation and brother and sister of Terri Schiavo. This Saturday’s guest will be Brother Paul O’Donnell of the Franciscan Brothers of Peace. Brother Paul is a national speaker on euthanasia and difficult life issues.

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80 posted on 03/14/2008 10:17:44 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: wagglebee

Hey, that was kind of a fakeout by FV. I had to work on my internet connection.... the deathaversary trolls are disgusting! Oh,and it’s L. Ron Hubbard’s birthday today. Cruise and Travolta are in town laughing maniacally and couch jumping. The hotel is right by Greer’s courthouse. Remember their Terri? LISA MACPHERSON. Her dehydration photos are on line along with the details of her untimely death.


81 posted on 03/14/2008 5:39:41 PM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Sam Golubchuk gets some breathing room...

....................

The trial to decide whether a Winnipeg man should be taken off life support does not appear as though it will begin for at least another nine months.

Percy Golubchuk and Mariam Geller are fighting to ensure their 84-year-old father Samuel Golubchuk is not taken off life support by staff at the Grace General Hospital.

Samuel Golubchuk, an Orthodox Jew, has been on life support there since early November, but in December doctors advised the family that they wanted to take the man off the system because he showed minimal brain activity, could not communicate, and showed no signs of improvement.

The family fought in court to keep him alive, and last month Justice Perry Schulman granted a temporary injunction allowing Golubchuk to remain on life support until a trial could decide the issue for good. Lawyers for the Golubchuk family and the Winnipeg Regional Health Authority were in court this afternoon attempting to hammer down a trial date, but the Golubchuk family lawyer said it's not likely to be for some time.

"We still haven't set a definitive date but it's looking like December," Neil Kravetsky said.

The court calendar is routinely backed up several months, and some trials are already being booked well into 2009.

Kravetsky said the family is happy knowing Golubchuk will remain on life support until the trial, no matter how far off it is.

"Right now he's ok because the order's in effect," he said. "Mr. Golubchuk is doing ok. He's holding on." A spokeswoman for the WRHA declined to comment.

http://winnipegsun.com/News/Winnipeg/2008/03/14/5009466.html

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82 posted on 03/15/2008 3:49:21 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Terri and the effect her legacy has on the Catholic Church is discussed by Fr. Kinast and others.

The most publicized and controversial instance of a person in this condition was the situation of Terri Schindler Schiavo a few years ago. Her husband insisted that she did not want to be kept alive artificially and requested that her feeding tube be removed. Her parents objected, arguing that she was still alive and the withdrawal of nutrition would in effect starve her to death.

The disagreement was finally settled by the courts in 2005, but the legal resolution did not answer the moral question of whether it is obligatory to provide nutrition and hydration to someone in this state.

Pope John Paul II addressed that question prior to the court ruling. In a 2004 speech to an international congress on this very topic, he declared that nutrition and hydration, even when administered artificially (for example, through a feeding tube), constitute ordinary care even for persons in a persistent vegetative state.................

When is it time to let a loved one 'go to God'

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83 posted on 03/15/2008 3:58:19 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; floriduh voter; amdgmary
From the frozen reaches of Minnesota, they ponder sunny Florida and its tropical produce, oranges, grapefruits, Charlie. Sounds like nobody is getting spammed by Charlie...

Still, Crist doesn't like to use e-mail. "I can't tell you the last time I got an e-mail from him," said George LeMieux, who until recently served as Crist's chief of staff and who ran his 2006 campaign. "I get a phone call. He just likes to talk to people, or hear their voice or capture things you can't capture in a sterile e-mail." But he said Crist has been the most transparent governor in Florida history. Indeed, Crist's first official act as governor was to create the Office of Open Government, which strives to ensure that state agencies comply quickly and fully to records requests.

The difference between Crist and his predecessor, Gov. Jeb Bush, is notable.

Bush's office often took months to fill requests, including one asking for e-mails related to the Terri Schiavo right-to-die case. That 2005 request cost more than $500 for a box of e-mails printed on paper. In contrast, Crist's office copies e-mails onto CDs and usually hands them out at no cost.

Florida put into law in 1995 that e-mails are public records. Courts had already ruled as much, but then-state Rep. Ron Klein passed a bill spelling out that communication to and from public officials and government employees are public records regardless of format......

Spot checks highlight poor access to gubernatorial e-mail

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84 posted on 03/15/2008 4:08:14 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

I doubt that Governor Suntan ever learned to basic typing at St. Pete High. If he can coast, that’s how he likes it.


85 posted on 03/15/2008 8:09:04 PM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Office of Open Government sounds Orwellian to me. I don’t buy it. There are too many corrupt judges and office holders in Fla for open govt to even halfway exist.


86 posted on 03/15/2008 8:14:34 PM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Office of Open Government sounds Orwellian to me. I don’t buy it. There are too many corrupt judges and office holders in Fla for open govt to even halfway exist.


87 posted on 03/15/2008 8:14:44 PM PDT by floriduh voter (FL Gov. Crist "This is America. I can wear whatever I want. I believe in freedom." You go, girl.)
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To: Salvation; Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; ...
In this reminder in a thread by Salvation, today is Palm Sunday, the start of Holy Week for us Christians, Catholics. It marks the start of another week of horrible passion, that of just three years ago, of the suffering of Terri as she lay dying and as hope for her rescued dwindled. May we of all faiths remember Terri so that similar fates not descend upon others, and from the perspective of nearly two thousand years ago.

Today, this "Second Sunday of the Passion," is the memorial of Christ's "triumphant," but misunderstood, entry into Jerusalem, the day that begins Holy Week. This entry into Jerusalem is seen as the prophetic fulfillment of Zacharias 9:9-10 :.............

Palm Sunday

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88 posted on 03/16/2008 4:29:18 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Lesforlife
As we confront those who would harm us, we receive this glimpse into the shadows of one of the three who would be President. Consider this email. Thanks, Les.

..................................


Barack Obama's minister for the past 20 years, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has been in the news this past week for his hate-filled rhetoric.  His name, and his church, sounded familiar.  Now I know why.

Back in 2004, as right-to-die group Partnership for Caring transitioned into "Last Acts Partnership,"  Rev. Wright's name was listed (on their website) as a member of the Board of Directors for Last Acts Partnership.  Rev. Wright and a deacon from his church -- Rosalyn Priester -- participated in Richard Payne's "Last Miles" conference (funded by Soros's Project on Death, and by Robert Wood Johnson Foundation). Payne's institute at Duke focuses on educating African-Americans on end-of-life issues, and the Institute is not exactly pro-life.  When Terri died, the they were one of the first out of the box to host a conference to explain that her death was not euthanasia; it was merely an ugly family disagreement. The Institute perpetuates the myth that withholding/withdrawing is a good death.  Wright's church has participated heavily in the Duke projects, in Last Acts, and in the RWJF faith-based programs. (http://www.iceol.duke.edu/resources/lastmiles/papers/11.html )

This is the culture of death, folks. Ironic that Wright berates the US for not respecting life, when he himself is promoting this stuff.  And this has been Barack Obama's church home for two decades.

"We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest."

89 posted on 03/16/2008 4:37:12 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; floriduh voter; amdgmary
Sometimes windows are so transparent we can see right through them. Charlie's is.

But he said Crist has been the most transparent governor in Florida history. Indeed, Crist's first official act as governor was to create the Office of Open Government, which strives to ensure that state agencies comply quickly and fully to records requests.

The difference between Crist and his predecessor, Gov. Jeb Bush, is notable.

Bush's office often took months to fill requests, including one asking for e-mails related to the Terri Schiavo right-to-die case. That 2005 request cost more than $500 for a box of e-mails printed on paper. In contrast, Crist's office copies e-mails onto CDs and usually hands them out at no cost..........

Spot Checks Show Poor E-Mail Access

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90 posted on 03/16/2008 4:51:15 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
The unabashed assault on our senses continues, with propaganda of the left slithering over the most clear of logic and fact. This editor even thinks the two far left socialist-commie Presidential candidates are just dandy. Of course he would.

In time, the void left by the abandoned consensus was filled by an ever-narrowing and more zealous right, which attempted to impeach a popular president, even thrust its cultural views into the family tragedy of Terry Schiavo........

H. Brandt Ayers: Majority doesn't count

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91 posted on 03/16/2008 5:01:01 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; rfp1234; narses
Showing an amazing grasp of the obvious, The Sunday Times brings this conclusion from England. Thread by rfp1234. Thanks, narses, for the ping.

Women may be at risk of mental health breakdowns if they have abortions, a medical royal college has warned. The Royal College of Psychiatrists says women should not be allowed to have an abortion until they are counselled on the possible risk to their mental health.

This overturns the consensus that has stood for decades that the risk to mental health of continuing with an unwanted pregnancy outweighs the risks of living with the possible regrets of having an abortion. .....

Royal College warns Abortions can Lead to Mental Illness

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92 posted on 03/16/2008 5:09:58 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Victories...

Thread by wagglebee.

WASHINGTON, March 14 /Christian Newswire/ -- "We are seeing a tremendous change taking place across the nation as our second simultaneous coast-to-coast 40 Days for Life campaign draws to a close," said David Bereit, national campaign director of 40 Days for Life.

In this campaign, which began February 6 and ends March 16, people in 59 cities in 31 states joined together for 40 days of prayer and fasting for an end to abortion, 40 days of constant, peaceful vigil outside abortion facilities and Planned Parenthood offices and 40 days of pro-life community outreach............

40 Days for Life Effort Wraps Up Sunday; Lives Saved, Awareness Raised

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93 posted on 03/16/2008 5:16:09 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Mor on Hussain B.O. and cuddling with the Culture of Death and Okrah. Thread by wagglebee.

Eckhart Tolle, the New Age guru, who numbers amongst his disciples the wildly influential talk show host, Oprah Winfrey, who, in turn, is herself Barack Obama's most enthusiastic supporter, proclaims that history is at a moment of crisis. According to his theory, if humanity does not collectively achieve a state of "higher consciousness," then the race will soon violently destroy itself and the planet in a final conflagration of "egoic consciousness".

It is a little eerie to hear a man who falls so firmly on the left echoing the apocalyptic theories of the religious right, and proposing much the same solution to the problem. For what Tolle (with the accustomed linguistic obtuseness of modern self-appointed prophets) labels "egoic consciousness" is, to somewhat oversimplify, what the religious right has, since approximately the moment Adam and Eve were expelled from Eden, called "pride." And one thing on which the religious right and Eckhart Tolle agree, is that the flourishing of this egoic consciousness lies at the very heart of the malaise of the developed world, having lead to ever increasing social unrest, dissatisfaction with life, widespread violence, and a pervading selfishness, a devastating focus on the "I", the ego......

Together Oprah and Obama are giving a soul to the Culture of Death

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94 posted on 03/16/2008 5:22:48 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
More than mustard comes from Dijon. Thread by wagglebee on something harder to digest.

Chantal Sebire knows she's forcing people to make an agonizing decision, but agony is something she knows far too much about. The 52- year-old Dijon schoolteacher suffers from a rare disease that has left her disfigured by facial tumors, which will also damage her brain over time and eventually kill her. Her demand that French political leaders loosen laws against euthanasia has been rebuffed, so Sebire now awaits a judge's decision on whether existing legislation allows doctors to assist her in ending her pain-racked life. "I no longer accept this enduring pain, and this protruding eye that nothing can be done about," Sebire told RTL radio, referring to ravages the tumors are causing her. "I want to go out celebrating, surrounded by my children, friends, and doctors before I'm put to sleep definitively at dawn."........

Making a Case for Euthanasia

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95 posted on 03/16/2008 5:28:28 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
An abrasive topic at Emory...

Thread by wagglebee.

mages used in society reflect the way a culture views disability, said Rosemarie Garland-Thompson, a professor of women's studies and English at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia.

Garland-Thompson presented a lecture Tuesday that encouraged community members and professionals who attended to view images of disability in a different way. She is a visiting speaker for the first annual Disability Studies Forum.......

Professor urges to review cultural images of disability

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96 posted on 03/16/2008 5:35:31 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Sam Golubchuk update...

Thanks, Les, for the tip.

Last we heard from the news media, all was just dandy. The courts were not to hear the case until very late in the year and the medical authorities were obliged to care for poor Sam until then.

Not so fast when dealing with death enthusiasts. They have the blood lust and won't be satisfied with such a stalemate. They will fight viciously to complete their kill and we must always remind ourselves to be vigilant at all times. This dark force of euthanasia drives on relentlessly, never pausing in the quest.

Here is what is not in the news. They are seeking funds to help in the fight but it would not be proper for me to show this as a solicitation letter, instead as a news item.

Solicitation details edited.

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My name is Miriam Geller, and I am the daughter of SAM GOLUBCHUK.

Please forward this email to as many people as possible after
reading.

You recently signed an online petition demanding that the Grace
Hospital of Winnipeg continue providing basic care for SAM, a
disabled World War II veteran who the hospital wanted to let die.
(you may not have signed the petition yet. It can be found here
<http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/save-sam-golubchuk/sign.html>
.

I wanted to thank you for your support, and to update you on the
situation.

As you may recall, last fall SAM, who has been living in a long-term
care facility, came down with pneumonia and had to be moved to
hospital where, thank God, the pneumonia was cured. Unfortunately,
due to his weakened condition, he was been unable to return to his
home. He is currently receiving basic care at the hospital which
includes being given food and water and assistance in breathing
through the use of a ventilator.

In November the hospital, without our permission, attempted to
withdraw this basic care, letting him die. We obtained an emergency
Court Order to stop them from doing this, which they tried - and
failed - to have reversed. We had hoped that this would be the end of
the battle, but now the government is forcing us to return to Court
again as it fights, at taxpayers' expense, to have the Order
overturned.

That's right - the government is still fighting for the right to kill
SAM! If it succeeds, it will have established the right to kill anyone
it deems unworthy of living.

Let me stress that SAM is not in a "vegetative" state, nor is he
suffering from a terminal illness of any kind. The government wants
to end his life because he's old, he's weak and he's disabled and it
doesn't want to spend money on his care - and it's using taxpayers'
money to fund its legal crusade!

SAM is a veteran of World War Two. He joined the army at the age of
16 and served in places like England, Holland and Belgium for six
years. He risked his life fighting murderers who started by killing
their disabled, then killed anyone they didn't like and didn't stop
killing till their government was crushed.

In short, SAM took a stand.

We too have decided to take a stand - but we aren't doing it just for
him. We're also doing it for ourselves, our children and everyone we
care about.

If we let the government kill SAM, it will be able to kill anyone it
thinks is past their "expiry date". Once they start who will stop
them?

WE NEED YOUR HELP NOW MORE THAN EVER!

What we need MOST DESPERATELY RIGHT NOW is money to pay our legal
bills and the fees for the next legal battle to KEEP SAM ALIVE!
Unlike the government, we can't tax anyone to pay these bills.
Instead we're depending on your generosity......

(email source...)

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97 posted on 03/17/2008 4:02:15 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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As a reminder to why we are here, and despite this festive day of Saint Patrick, I remind, it will be three years ago tomorrow, when the State succeeded with Terri's husband to commence the thirteen days of agonizing dehydration to kill her, as she screamed in horror. I have yet to find an explanation to describe this process as any other than a State sanctioned execution of an innocent victim.

Sure, the media lied and the media tried, but never overcame that simple definition of the action.

The media has its might and influence and support from the left and we have truth, evidence, facts and faith in Our Lord on our side.

"We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest."

98 posted on 03/17/2008 4:12:59 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Speaking of the media, we have received loud silence of late on the fate of Lauren Richardson but we keep watch.


99 posted on 03/17/2008 4:16:46 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; floriduh voter; amdgmary
Our stomachs turn enough over the prospects and antics of one of the three Marx brothers offered up to us as selection for President. Harpie and Karl are beyond the pale, but at least Grouchy can make us laugh and breathe some comfort.

Not so fast! What could make this situation even more spasmodic for our tender stomachs? It would be the arrival of the New Crist Minstrels. We know this guy just too well. No question about the other Marx's. We know they would throw any like Terri to the slaughterhouse and maybe some friends, too. But at least Grouchy has shown support for our side. We know Sorry Charlie would join the quest of the other two and even offer to help.

Charlie for V.P., Charlie, poster boy for RINOplasty? Gasp, I need air....

This article is as whitewashed as Charlie's hair.

.........................

Charlie Crist, current Governor of Florida, is mentioned as a possible Vice Presidential contender on a ticket with Arizona Senator John McCain. The 52-year-old white-haired Governor has the classic good looks of a political candidate. Crist came out for McCain in Florida at a crucial time, and Crist's support played a key role in McCain's win in Florida and could well prove instrumental helping McCain secure Florida's 27 electoral votes at the St. Paul, Minnesota convention in September.

~Snip~

Right to die - supports this, including respect for living wills. (*Received criticism for failure to more strongly support her family in Terry Schiavo case, when Governor Bush was on the opposite side.)................

Looking at Charlie Crist as Potential McCain Vice President

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100 posted on 03/17/2008 4:31:38 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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