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SEX IN DEPTH: When freaky-deaky equals hara-kiri (Japan dying for lack of real sex)
Asia Times Online ^ | March 8, 2008 | William Sparrow

Posted on 03/07/2008 2:59:51 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o

The Japanese population is believed to have peaked at about 127.5 million in 2005. Since then the figure has declined, with some estimates suggesting the population could shrink to 105 million by 2050. The drop is feared to have negative impacts on the nation's labor force and grave social and economic consequences. Recent reports seem to indicate that the sexual proclivities of Japanese men are contributing adversely to the situation.

More and more men, reports maintain, are turning to masturbation and sex toys rather than to their female counterparts. And further exacerbating an already declining birthrate of 1.29 children per women found in a 2004 survey by The Daily Yomiuri, is the fact that some men are increasingly turning their backs on sex.

"Sex is just way too much trouble," a 35-year-old Japanese man told Shukan Asahi this week, adding that ever since he used masturbation as a teenager, he's never desired a woman again. [snip]

Low birth rate coupled with the aforementioned sexual dysfunctions make the problems that Japan faces immediate and daunting.

"With Japan's labor force expected to decrease by 10% in the next 25 years, the economic outlook is far from bright. In all likelihood, the domestic market will shrink, production will fall, the government's revenue base will contract inexorably and it will struggle to meet welfare and medical payments for an increasing number of elderly as the dependency ratio (the number of workers supporting the elderly) will shift dramatically. In 1950, one elderly person was supported by 12 members of the working population, by 1990 it was 5.5 workers, and by 2020 it is estimated to be 2.3 workers. Naturally, the government is concerned about such a scenario," Julian Chapple wrote in a 2005 study titled "The Dilemma Posed by Japan's Population Decline".

(Excerpt) Read more at atimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Japan
KEYWORDS: civilization; demographics; extinction; japan; nation; nosex; perversion
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Perversion ends civilization
1 posted on 03/07/2008 2:59:54 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“Sex is just way too much trouble,”

It can be, but that’s just too bad.


2 posted on 03/07/2008 3:03:27 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Sex is too much trouble?

well, it’s true that relationships with people take work and committment. Maybe that’s the real heart of this issue. Namely, that people have become so “spoiled” or “self-centered” or “self-indulgent” that they can’t find any happiness in a relationship with another person. It speaks volumes for that guy to prefer his private activities to being in a relationship with a woman.


3 posted on 03/07/2008 3:05:21 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I wonder who will move in to Japan. The real estate, even as marginal as it is, won’t go vacant for long when the youthful population drops enough to make it an easy target.


4 posted on 03/07/2008 3:05:29 PM PST by Tax-chick (I am snide and not intellectual today. How are you doing?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
some men are increasingly turning their backs on sex.

That's a phrase I never in my life thought I would see.

5 posted on 03/07/2008 3:05:29 PM PST by squidly
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Sometimes the jokes just write themselves. Too easy.


6 posted on 03/07/2008 3:05:41 PM PST by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I recall an article not to long ago regarding Japanese researchers working to create the perfect realistic blow up doll in robot form.

I think they’ve watched ‘Giant Robot’ one too many times.


7 posted on 03/07/2008 3:06:01 PM PST by InsensitiveConservative
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Holy Cow! I mean, if you've got a gift like that, an Island FULL of unfullfilled Japanese women, and just ingore it?

My advice to any similar Japanese men: "Son, you've got to get your priorities straight!"

In this case their civilization is at stake.

We should start a program to ship our single FReepers over there for "public service".

8 posted on 03/07/2008 3:06:11 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Tax-chick

The Muslims?


9 posted on 03/07/2008 3:06:41 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: Mrs. Don-o
In an instant gratification society involving narcissistic people this is not surprising:

“Self-pleasure is a hell of a lot less demanding than trying to please somebody else.” It wouldn't surprise me if the U.S. has these problems or gearing up for them. Look at the divorce rate. Little effort is made to make the relationship work.

10 posted on 03/07/2008 3:07:34 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Men love porn more than sex!


11 posted on 03/07/2008 3:08:14 PM PST by donna (Pornography can reach out and snatch a kid out of any house today. - Ted Bundy)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

No wonder their women prefer gaijins.


12 posted on 03/07/2008 3:08:38 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Hot Japanese girls (giggity giggity)!


13 posted on 03/07/2008 3:08:45 PM PST by cryptical ("The future is already here; it's just not evenly distributed." - William Gibson)
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To: Tax-chick

China could replace all the non-functional Japanese men rather quickly.


14 posted on 03/07/2008 3:08:50 PM PST by tbw2 ("Humanity's Edge" - conservative Sci-fi - on amazon.com)
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To: Tax-chick

That’s a good question. I have read that there is not a great influx of immigrants as in Europe but that the Japanese are instead making a concerted drive for the developement of robots and increased automation to make up for the lack of younger workers. I would not find this surprising as the Japanese are among the more xenophobic peoples of the world.


15 posted on 03/07/2008 3:09:01 PM PST by scory
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m gonna just add “Freaky-deaky” to the list of words I never thought I would see at FR.


16 posted on 03/07/2008 3:09:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: scrabblehack
The Muslims?

Maybe, but from where? Indonesia or Malaysia? They have a lot of people, but they're not the kind of economies/militaries that are a threat to even a terribly weakened Japan, at least not in the foreseeable future.

17 posted on 03/07/2008 3:11:04 PM PST by Tax-chick (I am snide and not intellectual today. How are you doing?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Someone send in George Strait. They call him the fireman, you know.


18 posted on 03/07/2008 3:12:17 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Dad told me that if I didn’t stop I’d go blind.

I said “Dad, I’m over here.”


19 posted on 03/07/2008 3:12:31 PM PST by vietvet67
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To: tbw2
China could replace all the non-functional Japanese men rather quickly.

True, but it would make more sense for China, with its surplus of single, young men, to hit Korea or Taiwan first. Also, China is expanding into Siberia, which is contiguous, like Korea.

20 posted on 03/07/2008 3:12:47 PM PST by Tax-chick (I am snide and not intellectual today. How are you doing?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Japan = Anti-France.


21 posted on 03/07/2008 3:13:12 PM PST by The_Republican (You know why Chelsea Clinton is so Ugly? Because Janet Reno is her Father! LOL! - Mac is Back!)
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To: Lazamataz; Caipirabob

Pinging you, sir.


22 posted on 03/07/2008 3:13:27 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Japan also aborts at least 300000 babies per year. There’s some evidence that the real abortion number is 3 times that.


23 posted on 03/07/2008 3:13:59 PM PST by Campion
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To: scrabblehack

Don’t be surprised if they do.


24 posted on 03/07/2008 3:14:29 PM PST by Sudetenland (McQueeg or Obama? McQueeg or Obama? Emotionally Unstable or Socialist? Decisions decisions!)
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To: Caipirabob
let me be the XX...I volunteer. ;)
25 posted on 03/07/2008 3:15:09 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you...our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: Caipirabob
We should start a program to ship our single FReepers over there for "public service". I was with you right up to the part before FReepers (don't tell Mrs SF)
26 posted on 03/07/2008 3:15:16 PM PST by SF Republican (Conservatives wanted all or nothing, and they got it.)
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To: scory

Yes, Japan is an unusual situation, being both an island country and a culture that doesn’t readily accept immigrants. Robots can replace workers, to some extent, but they can’t replace taxpayers. Where will the money for the pensions come from?

And robots can’t easily replace nursing home workers, which Japan will need a lot of. Things will be interesting.


27 posted on 03/07/2008 3:16:10 PM PST by Tax-chick (I am snide and not intellectual today. How are you doing?)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
No wonder their women prefer gaijins.

That and other reasons.

28 posted on 03/07/2008 3:16:28 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: squidly
some men are increasingly turning their backs on sex...
That's a phrase I never in my life thought I would see.

At least outside of the San Francisco Chronicle.

29 posted on 03/07/2008 3:18:24 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: scrabblehack

Nope. Japan does not want diversity and multiculturalism like we crave. Japan will always be for the Japanese only. Smart.


30 posted on 03/07/2008 3:19:08 PM PST by 353FMG (Vote for the Person who will do the least damage to our country.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
It speaks volumes for that guy to prefer his private activities to being in a relationship with a woman.

But hardly surprising. More and more, I'm discovering that 21st century women are beyond-career-driven, duplicitous, money-hungry, flighty, shallow, and incredibly vain. And that's just their good qualities. We're on about the third generation of feminists. And it ain't pretty.

31 posted on 03/07/2008 3:19:33 PM PST by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: vietvet67
Dad told me that if I didn’t stop I’d go blind.

I said “Dad, I’m over here.”

LOL! (I didn't go blind but I do wear glasses.)

32 posted on 03/07/2008 3:20:25 PM PST by Bob
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Its the pachinko...


33 posted on 03/07/2008 3:20:41 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: scory

Wow! This is weird. I’ve heard of woman over-using vibrators to the point that men don’t do it for them, but never the opposite:

“There has been a definite increase in the number of men showing signs of vaginal ejaculation dysfunction disorder, which includes such afflictions as premature and delayed ejaculation. There are physical reasons believed to be behind this, including prejudice against women, past trauma and overuse of masturbatory aids so that a vagina is unable to provide sufficient stimulation,” Dr Tsuneo Akaeda, head of the Akaeda Clinic in Tokyo’s Roppongi entertainment district, told Shukan Asahi.

“Some of the masturbation aids coming out nowadays are absolutely incredible. Guys become used to using these and there is no doubt that many men are unable to obtain the necessary satisfaction from a female vagina that they need to ejaculate.”


34 posted on 03/07/2008 3:21:56 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: tbw2
China could replace all the non-functional Japanese men rather quickly.

Ten to one advantage in population, and the Chinese aborted millions of baby girls, causing a terrible imbalance of men to women. And the Chinese have a score to settle over, let's say, among other things, the Rape of Nanking. The Japanese probably need to be looking to acquire some nuclear weapons. Or just surrender when the Chinese figure the above out.

35 posted on 03/07/2008 3:22:05 PM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Sex is just way too much trouble,"

Then Trouble's my middle name, buddy.

36 posted on 03/07/2008 3:23:16 PM PST by Snake65 (Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Seems immorality becomes a bore after a while.
Even the married who think sex is enough find it’s a mighty thin thread to hold two people together.
Sounds like a “you reap what you sow” situation.


37 posted on 03/07/2008 3:23:52 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Jack Black; Mrs. Don-o

IIIIIIICK!

After 20 years and eight children, my husband and I have no trouble handling things the normal way. I’m glad I took my Japanese instructor’s advice and stayed away from Japanese men!


38 posted on 03/07/2008 3:24:10 PM PST by Tax-chick (I am snide and not intellectual today. How are you doing?)
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To: Tax-chick
Actually, I believe that nursing homes will be amongst the first to “employ” humanoid robots. Even sooner, nursing home workers will probably be using robotic exoskeletons to to the hard jobs, such as lifting patients. Specialized robots are already on the job.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/1288241.html

39 posted on 03/07/2008 3:30:00 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Jack Black
"I’ve heard of woman over-using vibrators to the point that men don’t do it for them, but never the opposite:"

I've read somewhere that once a person stops using a vibrator they can go back to being satisfied with regular person to person sex quite quickly, provided they were not using it because of some pre-existing dysfunction. I would just guess the use of the vibrator is not the cause of dysfunction but the result.

40 posted on 03/07/2008 3:31:14 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewis)
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To: Bob

lol. I guess we’ve gone as far as we can with that joke..lol


41 posted on 03/07/2008 3:32:09 PM PST by vietvet67
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Masturbation is sex with someone you love" ...Woody Allen
42 posted on 03/07/2008 3:33:06 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Perversion ends civilization

Well, those guys are the world leaders in deviant porn ... so maybe you have a point.

43 posted on 03/07/2008 3:33:51 PM PST by Centurion2000 (su - | echo "All your " | chown -740 us ./base | kill -9 | cd / | rm -r | echo "belong to us")
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To: JennysCool
"... 21st century women are beyond-career-driven, duplicitous, money-hungry, flighty, shallow, and incredibly vain. And that's just their good qualities." Ding ding, Jenny you're pretty cool. After one divorce and a couple of girlfriends since, I find many women -- I just don't want to get into a relationship with one because of such qualities.
44 posted on 03/07/2008 3:36:01 PM PST by dk88 (Loud and local)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Many (not all) of the Japanese businessmen snd doctors that I know have mistresses they see on a regular basis. I think something here is being lost in translation. It is not so much that sex is too much trouble, but that having a meaningful relationship and a family can be too much trouble.


45 posted on 03/07/2008 3:36:19 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I was going to make some smart-ass comment... and then I was going to comment about the amazing beauty I’ve seen among Japanese women... but now I’m just depressed. Reading this article is like reading about actions which appear like very slow suicide. Masturbation is better than a woman? Men are so used to mechanical devices that they can’t orgasm in the natural manner? Just how weird and perverse is that? I’m saddened by the ideas expressed in this story. What a shame.


46 posted on 03/07/2008 3:39:49 PM PST by redpoll
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Well, that shows what I know! Very interesting.

On the other hand, I would expect that a lack of contact with humans would be detrimental to the elderly. But on the other, other hand, shorter time in nursing care would be an economic advantage.


47 posted on 03/07/2008 3:40:57 PM PST by Tax-chick (I am snide and not intellectual today. How are you doing?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
No boom-boom ANY time!
48 posted on 03/07/2008 3:41:00 PM PST by mkjessup (Famous 'Rat Initials: FDR, HST, JFK, LBJ .... to be followed by *B.O.* ?!? - I don't think so!! LOL)
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To: Caipirabob

“We should start a program to ship our single FReepers over there for “public service”.”

I’m willing to take one for the team ;-).


49 posted on 03/07/2008 3:41:06 PM PST by Pravious
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Here’s the part that is puzzling. Most urban areas in Japan feel crowded, even if the rural areas are a lot less so.

So why is there such upset at the population getting smaller?

Sure, economists are upset, because their ever growing deity called “productivity” will become smaller. So what? When was the last time people wanted to have sex or children for the sake of the economy?

Right now, their population has 127.5M people, and a lot of them are old. So who is going to be traumatized if the population drops to 105M? Triple whoopee.

It will probably make Japan a nicer place to live.

In 1950, Japan had about 85M people. By 1970, 100M.

I doubt that the Japanese will mind having more elbow room.


50 posted on 03/07/2008 3:41:54 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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