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Bill Clinton: Hillary-Obama Ticket Would Be "Almost Unstoppable Force"
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Posted on 03/08/2008 12:24:54 PM PST by Sub-Driver

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To: Sub-Driver

Obama needs to stay faaaaaarrrr away from the Clinton’s. The Clinton’s cannot and will not benefit Obama in any way, shape or form.

Hillary and Bill suggesting this combined ticket at this point looks pathetic on their parts.


51 posted on 03/08/2008 1:39:38 PM PST by khnyny (Quid Est Veritas)
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52 posted on 03/08/2008 1:47:06 PM PST by Bobalu (I guess I see'd that varmint for the last time....)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

This is so desperate! I don’t think the VP slot will be hers to offer. She obviously does not either, that is why she is acting like she is so gracious to offer it. Good grief...


53 posted on 03/08/2008 1:54:42 PM PST by kcat
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To: Uncledave

It may be that they see the handwriting on the wall and are trying this ploy just to get her on the ticket as number 2.


54 posted on 03/08/2008 2:12:29 PM PST by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance. Will Rogers)
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To: Uncledave

It may be that they see the handwriting on the wall and are trying this ploy just to get her on the ticket as number 2.


55 posted on 03/08/2008 2:13:14 PM PST by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance. Will Rogers)
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To: Sub-Driver

Unstoppable in the sense of the China syndrome. Right through the crust of the planet and all the way to the center.


56 posted on 03/08/2008 2:17:13 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Sub-Driver

Puke.


57 posted on 03/08/2008 2:19:27 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is why we needed to “take her out, leave no doubt.”


58 posted on 03/08/2008 2:20:23 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Homeschooled, homeschooling, will have homeschooled.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I agree with him, but too bad Obama is interedted...

From ace of spades HQ (www.ace.mu.nu)
Obama rules out VP spot
—Purple Avenger

Well, there you have it — top spot or nothing.
...Well, you know, I think it’s premature. You won’t see me as a vice presidential candidate — you know, I’m running for president...

Posted by Purple Avenger at 10:56 AM New Comments Thingy Haloscan Comments


59 posted on 03/08/2008 2:27:28 PM PST by enough_idiocy (Holding my nose in 2008. I disgree with McCain on lots of issue, but with the Democrats on more.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Better yet, maybe Obama could hire Hillary as “White House Greeter”. She could even cook up a batch of chocolate chip cookies every morning.


60 posted on 03/08/2008 2:30:11 PM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Bill Clinton - the ultimate controller. What business is it of his?


61 posted on 03/08/2008 2:36:55 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Note to Bill: What about an Obama-Clinton ticket?

Remember: A vote for Hillary is a vote to put the Perjured Pervert back into the White House.


62 posted on 03/08/2008 2:37:59 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: Shady
Clinton/Obama? He brings his shine box to the White House every day.

An Obama/Clinton ticket? Knives going between decks and blood in the scuppers; they will never cooperate.

63 posted on 03/08/2008 2:42:36 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Sub-Driver

IOW, Hillary can’t win on her own!

And they know it!


64 posted on 03/08/2008 2:44:12 PM PST by airborne (For ENGLISH, press '1' . For SPANISH, hang up and learn ENGLISH!)
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To: khnyny
Bill Clinton: Hillary-Obama Ticket Would Be "Almost Unstoppable Force"

Obama is intelligent enough to know that Obama-Hillary ticket that's Almost Unstoppable Arancide.

Since the beast can not win no matter what even if she wins big Pennsylvania (go to: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html to find out)

Arcanscide might be the only option to put the monster on top.

65 posted on 03/08/2008 2:50:16 PM PST by Anticommie
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To: Sub-Driver

Gotta love how the Clintons are, on one hand, trashing Obama (usually with true statements) as unqualified, empty and dishonest, but also think he’s qualified to be at very least Vice President, leaving him a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

And yet the media and Democrats can’t seem to grasp the contradiction.


66 posted on 03/08/2008 3:03:46 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: Sub-Driver

I also have been predicting a Clinton/Obama ticket forever. The TX win made that even more likely.

That said, the ‘Toons are USING this line for the immediate purpose of trying to peel off some of those voters inclined toward Obama-—by telling them there is no downside to voting for the Beast-—they’ll get Obama anyway!

IOW, they are once again trying to win by selling a two-fer-—this one without the other guy’s assent, but still.

They are telling people it’s okay to vote for Hildy because, in the end, there will be “no losers.” Everybody will get a consolation prize.


67 posted on 03/08/2008 3:08:20 PM PST by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he used to say: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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To: Williams

Exactly. This is one of her ways of putting pressure on the supers.

Her win in TX and OH gave her the grounds for arguing that only she can win the big states, that Obama is not as electable. So she needs to be at the top of the ticket.

To help the BS go down, she offers to make Obama the consolation prize and the way to take care of turnout.


68 posted on 03/08/2008 3:11:17 PM PST by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he used to say: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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To: WVNan

OTOH, the turnout among those who would vote for someone ONLY b/c of race and ONLY b/c of gender might be large enough to compensate for those who would not vote for one or the other.


69 posted on 03/08/2008 3:14:06 PM PST by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he used to say: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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To: Beowulf9

At this point, NEITHER Obama or the Beast can win the nomination based only on pledged delegates.

So both have to set up how they are going to plead their case in the smokey back room.


70 posted on 03/08/2008 3:15:14 PM PST by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he used to say: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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To: Anti-Hillary

He never ruled out being the Hildy’s VP. Read his words closely.


71 posted on 03/08/2008 3:16:14 PM PST by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he used to say: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Absolutely agree.


72 posted on 03/08/2008 3:17:31 PM PST by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he used to say: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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Clinton’ such a putz. Lose election after election then barley win a couple and now you’re the boss offering jobs? Pleeze!

Obama/?


73 posted on 03/08/2008 3:30:40 PM PST by CTSeditor
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To: DennisR

Tell it to the Texas and Ohio voters who crossed over for them...Oh, never mind, too late, isn’t it? Thank you, “conservative” talk radio hosts.


74 posted on 03/08/2008 3:50:09 PM PST by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("Rush has unsealed the mummy's tomb-he has unleashed the undead."-Hugh Hewitt)
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To: Sub-Driver
Obama was asked by a television reporter, "Can you ever see yourself on the same ticket as Sen. Clinton?"

And the freshman Illinois senator replied: "Well, you know, I think it’s premature. You won’t see me as a vice presidential candidate -- you know, I’m running for president. We have won twice as many states as Senator Clinton, and have a higher popular vote, and I think we can maintain our delegate count."

75 posted on 03/08/2008 3:52:19 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Sub-Driver

Clinton starts pushing idea of ticket with Obama more seriously

BUT, according to Hillary, Obama is not ready to ‘lead on day one’. I guess if she is on the ticket that changes things (as if she will take a back seat to anyone).


76 posted on 03/08/2008 3:55:53 PM PST by kcvl
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"Well, you know, that may be where this is headed." Clinton said. "But of course we have to decide who is on the top of the ticket. I think the people of Ohio very clearly said that it should be me."
77 posted on 03/08/2008 3:57:17 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Sub-Driver

If they were to combine on the ticket Obama would be a fool to be the Presidential candidate and I think Vince Foster would verify that.


78 posted on 03/08/2008 4:15:46 PM PST by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO cuz I'm too conservative to be a Republican. McCain is the Conservatives true litmus test)
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To: Sub-Driver

Ya Sure. It would be the dumbest thing Obama could ever do. It would question his decision making ability and disqualify him to be president.


79 posted on 03/08/2008 5:24:57 PM PST by chainsaw (Monica Lewinsky's ex-sex partner's wife for Pesident ?....No Muslim in the WH either.)
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To: Sub-Driver
People here are missing the ultimatum which the Clintons are sending through this (very clever) ploy.

Look, a lot of Democrats are terrified that the continuing race between Hillary and Obama will get bloodier and bloodier and end up tearing the Democratic Party apart, in which case neither one will win the general election. There is a desperate desire to resolve the contest one way or another, and then get on with the job of unifying the party.

If Obama had won Ohio and Texas, or even just Texas, the Democratic establishment was prepared to lean on Hillary to concede the race. They had a bunch of superdelegates lined up who were going to endorse Obama and try to put the nomination mathematically out of reach for Hillary.

But Hillary's victories torpedoed that plan. Now she can claim some momentum, and keep her campaign going until at least Pennsylvania and quite possibly right up into the convention. This is the Democrats' worst case scenario.

So what Hillary is telling all these Democrats is: ‘The only way you can stop the fratricide and keep the race from dragging on is to sign on to a unity ticket with me at the head and Obama as the VP. Lean on Obama, and make him see the political reality, and we can all join hands and win the November election.’

‘BUT, if my offer is rejected, then you'll get your worst case scenario. I'll rip Obama apart from now until the convention, so that even if he eventually wins the nomination it will be worthless. And don't even think about a unity ticket with me on the VP end. I'm setting the terms here, and Obama isn't ruthless enough to destroy the party with a counter-ultimatum.’

Of course Obama is publicly rejecting the offer. He has to, or all the superdelegates will immediately grab Hillary's offer and end his chances. But Obama can't publicly make the counter-offer of having Hillary his VP choice. For one thing, he doesn't want her. For another thing, it would look like a me-too response and make him appear weak. He's trying to project the image of having an unbeatable delegate lead, so a compromise offer undercuts that narrative.

But Hillary's offer is hanging out there now, and she'll use it to paint Obama as the obstacle to political peace and unity. Meanwhile she'll keep attacking Obama, and every time she's criticized for her tactics she'll just blame Obama for stubbornly refusing to place the good of the Democratic Party above his own blind ambition.

80 posted on 03/08/2008 6:38:36 PM PST by dpwiener
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To: altura

I can’t see the African American voters going for this. This would be an insult to them and they would stay home and not vote.


81 posted on 03/08/2008 8:04:05 PM PST by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Anticommie

I’m calling Hillary the Tracy Flick (movie “Election”) of national politics now. LOL.


82 posted on 03/08/2008 9:25:29 PM PST by khnyny (Hillary is the national equivalent of Tracy Flick)
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