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The World's "Most Dangerous" Spiritual Guru: Oprah Begins 10-Week Online New Age Class
Life Site ^ | March 7, 2008 | John Jalsevac

Posted on 03/08/2008 12:38:51 PM PST by NYer

March 7, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - This past Monday Oprah Winfrey, considered by many to be the world's most influential woman, began a ten-week long online course on the best-selling book, "A New Earth," by New Age guru, Eckhart Tolle. "A New Earth" has already sold some 3.5 million copies worldwide, thanks largely to the publicity given to it by Oprah. According to Oprah, 500,000 people from across the world signed on to the first segment of the online course, to spend an hour and a half listening to Ekhart and Oprah talking about chapter 1 of the book, and taking calls from participants.

In recent years Oprah has been inviting an increasing number of representatives of new age spirituality onto her talk shows, including figures such as Marianne Williamson, Barbara DeAngelis, LaVar Burton, Richard Carlson, Betty Eadie, and many others. Oprah has strongly endorsed many of their works, and has included some of them in her "Book Club" list.  

Since the beginning of this year Oprah has offered daily classes on her XM radio station on the book "A Course in Miracles." "A Course in Miracles" (or ACIM for short) was written by another major player in the New Age movement, Helen Schucman, who claims that the book was dictated to her by an interior voice, which she identifies with Jesus Christ. In that course, the listener is taught that there is no sin, is told not to make the "mistake" of "clinging to the old rugged cross," and that the name of "Jesus Christ as such is but a symbol." 

Oprah, who is a self-labeled "Christian", was recently named the "most dangerous woman in the world" by Bill Keller, considered by some to be the world's leading Internet evangelist. He accused Oprah of peddling the equivalent of "spiritual crack." Keller has been warning the subscribers of his Daily Devotional for years about Oprah and how she uses her TV program to promote every New Age philosophy in the world, including the wildly popular book and DVD last year, "The Secret," which teaches readers or viewers that simply by desiring them strongly enough, one may obtain wealth, health and happiness.

However, rarely has Oprah shown more enthusiasm for a New Age guru than for the so-called Eckhart Tolle, who takes his first name from the well-known 13th century Catholic Rhineland mystic, Meister Eckhart. Tolle is the author of several books including "The Power of Now," and, most recently, "A New Earth."

Much like many other New Age systems, Eckhart's "spirituality" is a vague, ethereal blend of spiritual theories and ideas, gleaned from all of the world's major religions. Eckhart promises the attainment of "inner peace" and a higher state of consciousness by utilizing methods of meditation that plunge one into the "now." He also says that mankind is in a moment of crisis, in which the race must either achieve the next stage in its evolution by attaining "higher consciousness", or destroy itself and the planet.

The title of his newest book, "A New Earth," is taken from Chapter 21 from the Book of Revelations, in which the Biblical visionary says that he "saw a new heaven and a new earth." Throughout his newest book Eckhart sprinkles quotations from Scripture, and he frequently speaks about Christ and Scripture in his talks.

The core of Eckhart's teaching is a religious relativism, in which he eschews all rigid doctrine or exclusive claims to truth as dangerous and manifestations of "egoiic consciousness."  "The moment you say 'only my belief' or 'our belief' is true, and you deny other people's beliefs, then you've adopted an ideology," Eckhart told the participants in Monday's online class. "And then religion becomes a closed door."

Eckhart explains away conscience and feelings of guilt as but the consequence of years of conditioning. He told one caller, who confessed that she still feels guilt when she decides against going to church on Sunday, that she must recognize that "the voice" which tells her to go to church is simply the result of social conditioning.

One caller into the show told Oprah that she was a Catholic, and was having trouble seeing how Eckhart's teachings could be reconciled with her Catholicism. Oprah responded that the caller must simply realize that Christianity is but one of many ways to achieve the "higher consciousness," and that the belief that one must follow a set of doctrines is a consequence of "egoiic consciousness." While Christianity is a valid way to achieve high states of spirituality, it must not be considered a unique way, or a "correct way".

"Jesus," said Oprah, "came to show us Christ-consciousness…Jesus came to show us the way of the heart…Jesus came to say, 'Look I'm going to live in the body, in the human body and I'm going to show you how it's done.' These are some principles and some laws that you can use to live by to know that way"

She concluded, "I don't believe that Jesus came to start Christianity."

"What Jesus said is much deeper than what you, how the church interprets it. There's a depth to it. And it reflects your own depth when you read it. So there's no conflict between this teaching, which is purely spiritual, and any religion."

Oprah also indicated that there are many names that one might give to that which she calls "God", including "energy," "consciousness" and "life."

Oprah also contrasted what she called the "old" spirituality vs. the "new" spirituality, as espoused by Eckhart. "The old way is the hierarchy has the authority. Church authorities tell you how to worship in church and how to behave outside of church. The new spirituality is that you are your own best authority as you work to know and love yourself, you discover how to live a more spiritual life."

Despite Oprah and Eckhart's reduction of Christianity to but one "way" amongst many other equally legitimate ways to God, and their calling Christ a "revolutionary" who has been misunderstood by the Church, and who simply came to manifest "Christ-consciousness", a quick search through the internet reveals that many Christians are following Oprah in attempting to fuse together the teachings of Eckhart, and the doctrines of the historical Christian church.

One writer on the message board on Oprah's website wrote a message with the subject line, "Scared I'm replacing my religion, which I love." "I just started the book" she wrote, "and I love the idea of the book but I guess the question I keep repeating in my head is will this be replacing my religion? How do the two work together. Can someone please help ease my mind that I'm not turning on the lord."

Many of the respondents to the questioner confessed that they too had similar misgivings about the book, but "upon reflection", realized that Tolle draws from numerous Christian sources, and that he and Oprah were giving them a "deeper understanding" of their faith.

However, Keller, and a number of other Christian pastors have begun to actively warn Christians that Oprah and Eckhart's teachings are by no means compatible with Christianity. "Oprah is now trying to be the spiritual guru to this nation," said Keller in an appearance on Fox. "Sadly, she is being used as a tool of Satan to lead millions of souls to hell with her false teachings."

Another pastor, James A. Smith Sr., writing in the Florida Baptist Witness, criticized Oprah's "spirituality" for its emphasis on the power of the individual to define truth and reality, and to totally control one's own life. "What this fails to acknowledge is that man dos not define reality; man does not determine what truth is," wrote Smith. "The source of truth for our decisions and power is the one true God of all reality and He has communicated plenary propositional truths to us in the Bible and remarkably, uniquely in His incarnation in Jesus Christ.

"Oprah, as with other New Agers, is not in pursuit and in communion with God." 

WorldNetDaily columnist Chuck Norris, wrote about Oprah and The New Earth, "The reason Tolle's psychology and spirituality is marketed so easy is that it is an eclectic mix of conventional and unconventional wisdom, and Western and Eastern beliefs, presented in a tolerant, non-threatening, and non-sectarian way. In other words, it's 'Religion Light,' in which one can be spiritual with 'little down and no credit.'"

Norris recommended that his readers simply sit down and read a Bible, rather than "A New Earth." "One could easily save the purchase price of 'A New Earth' and subsequently avoid misleading remarks by reading a Bible, which gives a much more thorough and accurate picture of life's purpose and methods for overcoming its obstacles," said Norris.

See YouTube video of Fox interview with Bill Keller
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFtKIztRtnY

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1 posted on 03/08/2008 12:38:53 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 03/08/2008 12:39:47 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

Thanks for posting. Interesting.


3 posted on 03/08/2008 12:43:10 PM PST by PGalt
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To: NYer

The latest itching-ear pseudo-christianity fad of the month.


4 posted on 03/08/2008 12:46:35 PM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Never get involved in a land war in Asia.")
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To: NYer

These quotes from Oprah are really strange. She’s out there.


5 posted on 03/08/2008 12:46:51 PM PST by Jorge
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To: NYer

We can’t discern right vs wrong - the New Age creed.

Can’t believe women follow Oprah.


6 posted on 03/08/2008 12:46:54 PM PST by The_Republican (You know why Chelsea Clinton is so Ugly? Because Janet Reno is her Father! LOL! - Mac is Back!)
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To: PGalt

Ditto.


7 posted on 03/08/2008 12:47:04 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: NYer

He looks like he just stepped off the mother ship.


8 posted on 03/08/2008 12:48:40 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: The_Republican

Who are these women? Men beware. Ask anyone you date if she watches Oprah....and run for your lives.


9 posted on 03/08/2008 12:49:44 PM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: NYer

This Oprah-New Age stuff is a “Doctrine of demons”..!


10 posted on 03/08/2008 12:49:58 PM PST by JSDude1 (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56306 "MoveON McCain" To find McCain's Sorros)
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To: NYer

I honestly don’t understand the appeal this woman has, and quite honestly I’ve never understood it.


11 posted on 03/08/2008 12:50:51 PM PST by Marathoner
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To: NYer

“spiritual crack.”... WHAT A CONCEPT...


12 posted on 03/08/2008 12:51:03 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Jorge; The_Republican

Oprah has finally decided that she did it all herself and now worships herself. She wants to share that with all of us.


13 posted on 03/08/2008 12:52:06 PM PST by pbear8 (The innocent cry out to God)
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To: NYer

The Oprah’s power over the sheeple is frightening. I try to warn my mom away, but she still watches fairly often.


14 posted on 03/08/2008 12:54:06 PM PST by marinamuffy (I'm no fan of McCain but I'll crawl over broken glass to vote against Hillary or the Obamanation.)
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To: NYer
The title of his newest book, “A New Earth,” is taken from Chapter 21 from the Book of Revelations, in which the Biblical visionary says that he “saw a new heaven and a new earth.” Throughout his newest book Eckhart sprinkles quotations from Scripture, and he frequently speaks about Christ and Scripture in his talks.
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It is the book of Revelation. It is very dangerous to not look at the whole counsel of God. Oprah has been pushing this new age crud for years....I remember the first time she asked an audience member if they really believed Christ was the only way to heaven, when the audience member said “Yes”, she humiliated them, that was over 12 years ago and I have never watched her show again.

15 posted on 03/08/2008 12:54:56 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: NYer

Ti and Do are back!


16 posted on 03/08/2008 12:55:28 PM PST by JZelle
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To: NYer

I suppose the calls are screened and the show isn’t actually live. Otherwise, it would be interesting to watch Oprah’s face when a caller started to bring in quotations from Mein Kampf with the words, “I think Hitler had it right when he said...”.

Of course, if these loonies objected to the source of the quote, they could be hoist on their own petard. This is the type of attack Buckley used to use against moral relativism.

People actually know better when you put it in these terms.


17 posted on 03/08/2008 12:55:34 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: NYer

I look at Tolle’s picture and understand the phrase “The Banality of Evil”.


18 posted on 03/08/2008 12:56:50 PM PST by DManA
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To: NYer

Never trust a man with no chin.


19 posted on 03/08/2008 12:57:42 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Fred Thompson/Clarence Thomas 2008!])
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To: JaneNC

Its disturbing that spiritual void that people feel today is being filled by idiots like Eckhart and Deepak Chopra.

There use to be a term ‘School Prayer’, popular amongst Conservative circles not too long ago. Its amazing how we haven’t even heard anything about it. I think losing that battle has taken away the ability to at least present an option to these fake spirituality.

This is an ominous sign if the ONLY things this election is going to be about is Iraq and who would hand out more goodies. That is Democrat territory.

It may sound crazy, but now I think having Huck (despite only couple of Electoral Votes) as #2 on the ticket won’t be so bad. The man would at least bring MORAL ISSUES to the table.


20 posted on 03/08/2008 12:58:12 PM PST by The_Republican (You know why Chelsea Clinton is so Ugly? Because Janet Reno is her Father! LOL! - Mac is Back!)
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To: NYer

Let the fools waste their time and money. the more time these dumbsh*t housewives are spending on line and watching Doprah, the less time they are spending clogging the roads and nagging their neighbors.


21 posted on 03/08/2008 12:58:20 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pbear8
Oprah has finally decided that she did it all herself and now worships herself. She wants to share that with all of us.

A previous poster nailed it: 'doctrines of demons', put Oprah in a closed room with a God-fearing, Bible-believing, washed-in-the-Blood-of-Jesus Christian, and they'll have that demon giving it's name, saying how many more of them are in there (and based on Oprah's size, there's a bunch of 'em), and they'll begin screaming in agony as the Name of Jesus is invoked, and they are ordered to leave their host and return to whatever spot in Hell they came from.
22 posted on 03/08/2008 12:58:58 PM PST by mkjessup (Famous 'Rat Initials: FDR, HST, JFK, LBJ .... to be followed by *B.O.* ?!? - I don't think so!! LOL)
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To: NYer

I suppose the calls are screened and the show isn’t actually live. Otherwise, it would be interesting to watch Oprah’s face when a caller started to bring in quotations from Mein Kampf with the words, “I think Hitler had it right when he said...”.

Of course, if these loonies objected to the source of the quote, they could be hoist on their own petard. This is the type of attack Buckley used to use against moral relativism.

People actually know better when you put it in these terms.


23 posted on 03/08/2008 12:59:55 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: NYer

Oprah's new Easter

24 posted on 03/08/2008 1:00:21 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: NYer

I wonder if Oprah will ever go the Kool-Aid and cyanide route.


25 posted on 03/08/2008 1:01:11 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast; Larry Lucido
Never trust a man with no chin.

Especially if the guy who called you that got stabbed in the forehead with a fork! /obscure seinfeld reference ...

Which week do they do the "obama ... obama ... obama ..." chant in?
26 posted on 03/08/2008 1:03:16 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: NYer

This “Course In Miracles” crap worked its way from The Unity Church bunch and infiltrated various “12 Step” programs like AA and every other “alphabet”-aholic group over the past 20 years. It’s a bunch of “have faith in faith” gobblygook which fits in well her boy Obama’s “hope and change” messianic mission. In some ways, it’s not much different than the “prosperity theologians” that buy the TV airtime.


27 posted on 03/08/2008 1:05:15 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: NYer
Hummm...Let's see....

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"One caller into the show told Oprah that she was a CatholicMuslim, and was having trouble seeing how Eckhart's teachings could be reconciled with her Catholicism Muslim faith. Oprah responded that the caller must simply realize that Christianity Islam is but one of many ways to achieve the 'higher consciousness,' and that the belief that one must follow a set of doctrines is a consequence of 'egoiic consciousness.' While Christianitythe Muslim faith is a valid way to achieve high states of spirituality, it must not be considered a unique way, or a 'correct way'. " 'JesusMohammad,' said Oprah, 'came to show us ChristAli-consciousness…JesusMohammad came to show us the way of the heart…' "She concluded, 'I don't believe that JesusMohammad came to start ChristianityIslam.'

" 'What JesusMohammad said is much deeper than what you, how the churchmosque interprets it. There's a depth to it. And it reflects your own depth when you read it. So there's no conflict between this teaching, which is purely spiritual, and any religion.' "

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Yeah...I didn't think so..

28 posted on 03/08/2008 1:06:51 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: F15Eagle

And he’s got a big head!


29 posted on 03/08/2008 1:07:02 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: NYer

God, save us! That Toile makes David Souter look like a Muscle Beach bully. What do you get at the end of the “course” — a biodegradeable certificate and a one-way ticket to Loony Land?


30 posted on 03/08/2008 1:08:26 PM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: Larry Lucido
I'll bet birds fly right into it ... like they couldn't avoid it!!!

it's all in my book - Astonishing Tales of the Sea
31 posted on 03/08/2008 1:08:41 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: NYer
"A New Earth," by New Age guru, Eckhart Tolle.

Probably named after Dietrich Eckart.

32 posted on 03/08/2008 1:10:37 PM PST by fso301
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To: NYer

1. On a hill far away stood an old rugged cross,
the emblem of suffering and shame;
and I love that old cross where the dearest and best
for a world of lost sinners was slain.
Refrain:
So I’ll cherish the old rugged cross,
till my trophies at last I lay down;
I will cling to the old rugged cross,
and exchange it some day for a crown.

2. O that old rugged cross, so despised by the world,
has a wondrous attraction for me;
for the dear Lamb of God left his glory above
to bear it to dark Calvary.
(Refrain)

3. In that old rugged cross, stained with blood so divine,
a wondrous beauty I see,
for ‘twas on that old cross Jesus suffered and died,
to pardon and sanctify me.
(Refrain)

4. To that old rugged cross I will ever be true,
its shame and reproach gladly bear;
then he’ll call me some day to my home far away,
where his glory forever I’ll share.
(Refrain)


33 posted on 03/08/2008 1:10:56 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: JaneNC
Who are these women? Men beware. Ask anyone you date if she watches Oprah....and run for your lives.

Reminds me of 2nd Timothy 3:5-7:

"Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."

Cheers!

34 posted on 03/08/2008 1:11:50 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: BenLurkin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuCMjzYA3_U


35 posted on 03/08/2008 1:14:53 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: grey_whiskers

That is the exact same verse that always comes to my mind when I think about Oprah.


36 posted on 03/08/2008 1:20:24 PM PST by Obadiah
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Doesn’t Oprah belong to Obama’s church?


37 posted on 03/08/2008 1:21:08 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: JaneNC

That is good advice, JaneNC, to men dating oprahphiles. But I think this phenomenon is largely a result of people with too much time on their hands (in this case, mostly female) who have never experienced true hardship in life, poverty, etc. Those who have (of both sexes) are amazingly immune to this babble.

I recall the writer Lucian, who wrote of such similar scams in the times of the classic Romans — and Sinclair Lewis, I believe, who wrote of something similar.

Just the Elmer Gantry of our times.

The proof will be that in 3 years, these books will be sold for $0.10 in garage sales — and of no lasting value in life.

The problem is the damage this stuff does (and the time waste it causes) to many, especially females.


38 posted on 03/08/2008 1:24:41 PM PST by bajabaja
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To: NYer
The title of his newest book, "A New Earth," is taken from Chapter 21 from the Book of Revelations, in which ... What book is that?
39 posted on 03/08/2008 1:34:08 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: NYer
"The Secret," which teaches readers or viewers that simply by desiring them strongly enough, one may obtain wealth, health and happiness.

I guess 6 million Jews in Europe didn't desire wealth, health and happiness enough.

Or 2 million in Pol Pot's Cambodia.

Or millions of Russians when Stalin was Dictator.

It's easy to believe this lighter than air stuff when you live in a country where even our poorest have enough food, shelter, clothing, water, plumbing, electricity and a few extras like TV, a library to get books to read.

These new agers think that all their good thoughts will never let yechy stuff in their lives anymore. But somewhere in the Bible it says that God rains on both the good and the bad.

40 posted on 03/08/2008 1:34:11 PM PST by 3catsanadog (Vote for the person at the primaries; vote for the party at the election.)
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To: pissant
You got it, pissant

...what's today? Oh yea Saturday, must be apple-grape...tomorrow will be pina-colada.

Remember TM? Transcendental Meditation was going to save the world from itself.

I don't know why all of these folks get so sanctimonious and self-righteous about this sort of garbage. It it goes on 24/7/52. People are always looking for the "easier softer way." Not my business.

Looks like to me if you're a Christian then your eyes and mind should be focused on God and Christ, not worrying about what Orca Okra Porka that silly cow is doing.
41 posted on 03/08/2008 1:35:09 PM PST by Sudetenland (McQueeg or Obama? McQueeg or Obama? Emotionally Unstable or Socialist? Decisions decisions!)
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To: NYer

what is it with new age gurus and names like “eckhart?”


42 posted on 03/08/2008 1:36:40 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (dehumanize: the model prescribes the required behavior. disincentives ensure compliance.)
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To: NYer
"LaVar Burton..."

I didn't know he was a new ager...

43 posted on 03/08/2008 1:42:06 PM PST by Xenophon450 (I guess I'll never know, some things under the sun can never be understood...)
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To: NYer
"The moment you say 'only my belief' or 'our belief' is true, and you deny other people's beliefs, then you've adopted an ideology," Eckhart told the participants in Monday's online class. "And then religion becomes a closed door."

New age pantheism is a demonic scam. "Many paths, one destination" is a lie and an outright denial of the Christian Gospel.
44 posted on 03/08/2008 1:48:35 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: NYer
"A Course in Miracles" (or ACIM for short) was written by another major player in the New Age movement, Helen Schucman, who claims that the book was dictated to her by an interior voice, which she identifies with Jesus Christ. In that course, the listener is taught that there is no sin, is told not to make the "mistake" of "clinging to the old rugged cross," and that the name of "Jesus Christ as such is but a symbol."

The same kind of speak comes from people conversing with demons, Jane Roberts comes to mind. The difference is that she contacted the entity through a Ouija board and wrote multiple books by it's dictation. I however do not believe in coincidences. Of course anyone such as this would laugh Demons off as medieval primitive dogma not fit for this modern world, and yet consider "The Power of Now" a viable book title...

45 posted on 03/08/2008 1:51:48 PM PST by Xenophon450 (I guess I'll never know, some things under the sun can never be understood...)
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To: NYer
In the photo, he resembles that freak, Ben, in the TV series, Lost. But, in fact, he looks much worse.
46 posted on 03/08/2008 1:55:37 PM PST by isrul (Help make koranimals an endangered species)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Think Frank Burns.


47 posted on 03/08/2008 1:58:19 PM PST by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: The_Republican
If there's a void, someone will fill it. And it won't be something good. You don't have to work at finding evil. It will find you.
48 posted on 03/08/2008 2:00:42 PM PST by isrul (Help make koranimals an endangered species)
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To: mkjessup

It’s not sophisticated enough to be “doctrines of demons”. It’s simply the pathetic manifestation of narcissism and self absorption.And no, I’m not complimenting demos. Just pointing out that they could come up with something better than this crap.


49 posted on 03/08/2008 2:07:55 PM PST by isrul (Help make koranimals an endangered species)
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To: Moonman62
It would be nice. No. it would be hilarious.
50 posted on 03/08/2008 2:09:20 PM PST by isrul (Help make koranimals an endangered species)
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