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Battle over blood (Professor wants to ban blood banks as "discriminatory")
Santa Rosa Press Democrat ^ | 3/8/08 | LAURA NORTON

Posted on 03/08/2008 1:19:14 PM PST by Roberts

When nurses from Blood Bank of the Redwoods set up their needles, blood machines and cartons of high-fructose juice at Sonoma State University last week, 94 students, faculty and staff members donated blood.

Math professor Rick Luttmann was not one of them.

He was ineligible, he said, because of a federal Food and Drug Administration ban on blood donations from men who had had sex with men. A ban that he said amounts to unlawful discrimination.

Blood drives are the newest battleground for SSU faculty members who, led by Luttmann, are out to purge organizations on the 8,500-student campus they say discriminate against gays .

In a resolution to the school's Academic Senate, Luttmann has asked that SSU discontinue all campus blood drives because the FDA ban violates the school's anti-discrimination policy.

Blood bank officials say SSU accounts for about 5 percent of the regional blood supply.

SSU's administration has not taken a position on the proposed resolution, said Susan Kashack, university spokeswoman.

It is not the first time faculty members have argued against allowing an organization on campus because of similar concerns. In October, SSU canceled a $15,000 athletic sponsorship deal with the Army after faculty members complained that the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy for gay service members violated the campus policy.

If the blood bank resolution is approved by the faculty, as Luttmann predicts it will be, it will go the administration to decide whether blood drives can be continued on campus.

"The blood banks say if you are gay you are second-class, your blood isn't worthy," Luttmann said. "If the administration is really serious about the nondiscrimination policy, then we can't tolerate blood banks."

Luttmann's proposal comes on the heels of a San Jose State University decision in January to ban blood banks from conducting drives there because of discrimination issues.

While San Jose State students supported the ban, many SSU students appear to oppose it.

"People need access to blood. At any moment someone could need a transfusion," said student Skye Nashelsky, president of the Queer Straight Alliance. "The FDA is discriminating, but it's people who need blood who would be punished if we banned blood drives."

Men who have had sex with men since 1977 are eliminated from the donor pool because the FDA recognizes them as a risk of HIV infection.

The Red Cross and blood banks across the nation, including Blood Bank of the Redwoods, support lifting the lifetime ban on blood donations from such men, said Kent Corley, spokesman for Blood Bank of the Redwoods. Current HIV tests screen blood with minimal problems, he said.

However, Corley also said the ban relates to sexual history and not sexual orientation and does not constitute discrimination.

He cautioned SSU faculty against their effort.

"If we can't call on the community to step up the blood supply because of an issue like this, it would be unfortunate. People would not get the blood they need," he said.

"SSU represents a big donor base for us," Corley said, noting 350 new donors sign up at Sonoma State every year.

Last year, SSU students, faculty and staff donated 619 units of blood in 12 drives, said Diana Nation, chairwoman of JUMP, a community-building student association on campus.

That represents 5 percent of Blood Bank of the Redwoods' three-county supply, Corley said, and a potentially significant long-term supply if young student donors get in the habit of giving blood regularly.

"Nobody wants to see anybody discriminated against. I mean, that's not what we're trying to promote by wanting to promote the blood drives," Nation said. "But we feel the benefits outweigh the cost at this time."

Student leaders are considering a resolution opposing Luttmann's proposed ban on blood drives.

"We don't want it to look like we're supporting discrimination, but we don't feel qualified to determine if the FDA's ban is incorrect," said Jonathan White, speaker of the Student Senate. "Sponsoring blood drives is good for the whole community."

Students in the Queer Straight Alliance are supporting the blood drives, too, and issued a statement voicing opposition to both the FDA policy and the proposed faculty resolution.

Nashelsky and others in the Queer Straight Alliance are working to develop strategies to educate the community about the FDA's ban without endangering the quantity of the blood supply.

Students unable to contribute to blood drives may be asked to find a donor to give blood in their name. The Queer Straight Alliance may develop an on-campus visual exhibit, such as using pint jars of red-colored water to illustrate how many people wanted to give blood but were not allowed.

Some students, faculty and staff are finding their own ways to cope with the FDA policy.

Luttmann said at the blood drive last week he rolled up his sleeve to give blood while telling blood bank staff he was gay.

"I asked, 'Is that going to be a problem?' and they said 'Yes, I'm sorry, but it is,' " Luttmann said.

He did not give blood.

Nashelsky, whose grandmother received blood during a medical emergency five years ago, said he has donated about 20 times in her name, opting in his words to "lie."

"I want to donate. I know I'm not (HIV) positive. I have safe sex and I get tested regularly," said Nashelsky, who has the coveted O negative blood type.

"I don't like lying. But I can't say 'no, I can't donate. Sorry to ruin your day.' It's a good feeling. It's a gift you're able to give someone."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bloodbanks; fda; hiv; homosexualagenda; polesmokers; sociopaths
How unbelievably selfish can an "enlightened" university professor be? This story answers that question.
1 posted on 03/08/2008 1:19:16 PM PST by Roberts
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To: Roberts

Math professor, eh? Perhaps he’s a bit weak on probabilities. Could he be a liberal? Oh, now it makes sense.


2 posted on 03/08/2008 1:20:35 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Roberts

Why does anyone even listen to this man? Why isn’t he fired for being stupid?


3 posted on 03/08/2008 1:20:49 PM PST by donna ("I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.” - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Roberts

The world REVOLVES AROUND these people.....


4 posted on 03/08/2008 1:21:07 PM PST by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character; Being Coddled Destroys Character)
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To: goodnesswins

Maybe, if they REALLY want to, they could donate blood. Then they could throw it out. Or is it that they want to infect everyone else with AIDS? Or are we supposed to believe that AIDS is just a conspiracy theory? I bet it’s that ....


5 posted on 03/08/2008 1:22:51 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Roberts

They couldn’t express their philosophy more clearly: sodomy is holier than life itself.


6 posted on 03/08/2008 1:24:00 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Roberts
A ban that he said amounts to unlawful discrimination.

Yeah right.
He has a constitutional right to make everyone in America die of aids.

7 posted on 03/08/2008 1:25:37 PM PST by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Roberts

Yeah, let’s ban blood tranfusions so friggin a$$hole Luttman won’t feel discriminated against. What if one of his boyfriends needs blood? There won’t be any and he will die. Hmm.


8 posted on 03/08/2008 1:27:26 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Roberts; All

Funny thing is that military personnel who have been in Europe can’t donate either.


9 posted on 03/08/2008 1:29:21 PM PST by art_rocks
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To: Roberts
"Math professor Rick Luttmann was not one of them."

Hey professor, do the math. Don't endanger America because your feelings are hurt.

Best bet will be to donate your own blood and have it frozen or get it from a family member that you know is safe.

10 posted on 03/08/2008 1:29:27 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: Roberts
Hey Rick! Go back to the bath house and cry on somebody's loins. You and our blighted kind are not only diseased in spirit but more likely than anyone else to be diseased of flesh and blood, as well.
11 posted on 03/08/2008 1:32:35 PM PST by isrul (Help make koranimals an endangered species)
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To: Roberts
Jeeze, I've donated lotsa times, I always look on it as an onerous duty. I remember when my father had a transfusion and I'm grateful to the people who took the time and endured the inconvenience.

What a self-centered abomination this jerk is.

12 posted on 03/08/2008 1:32:35 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The women got the vote and the Nation got Harding.)
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To: Eagles6

Luttman = “butt man”...


13 posted on 03/08/2008 1:33:03 PM PST by chadwimc (Proud to be an infidel ! Allah fubar !!!)
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To: Roberts
The Red Cross and blood banks across the nation, including Blood Bank of the Redwoods, support lifting the lifetime ban on blood donations from such men, said Kent Corley, spokesman for Blood Bank of the Redwoods. Current HIV tests screen blood with minimal problems, he said.

THAT is the most disturbing part of the article.

14 posted on 03/08/2008 1:33:20 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: wideawake
That's exactly what the sick twisted freaks, like him, believe.
15 posted on 03/08/2008 1:34:09 PM PST by isrul (Help make koranimals an endangered species)
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To: chadwimc

Hey, it’s all about him, donchano.


16 posted on 03/08/2008 1:34:38 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: Roberts

What?
I was “discriminated” against for years because of countries I had been in. I had been “discriminated” against against because of Malaria. He might not care about HIV, but the rest of us do.


17 posted on 03/08/2008 1:39:06 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: art_rocks
I don't know the exact reason for that. But I have no problem with it. They can refuse anyone they want. I would rather err on the side of caution. Having your offer to give blood declined does not violate any right.
18 posted on 03/08/2008 1:39:10 PM PST by isrul (Help make koranimals an endangered species)
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To: Roberts

“”I don’t like lying. But I can’t say ‘no, I can’t donate. Sorry to ruin your day.’ It’s a good feeling. It’s a gift you’re able to give someone.””

Tell it to Ryan White.


19 posted on 03/08/2008 1:41:42 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: isrul

Its to prevent Mad Cow diesease getting into the blood banks. The question specifically ask if you ate beef products off post.


20 posted on 03/08/2008 1:49:09 PM PST by art_rocks
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To: Roberts
"The blood banks say if you are gay you are second-class, your blood isn't worthy," Luttmann said. "If the administration is really serious about the nondiscrimination policy, then we can't tolerate blood banks."

Man Charged With Infecting Son With Blood Tainted by H.I.V.

Aids scandals around the world

Patient infected with HIV-tainted blood used in transfusion

More than 1,000 people contracted HIV

Cedars Sinai Medical Center unknowingly infected over 114 children with HIV contaminated blood transfusions


Is AIDS a "gay" disease?



California Homosexual Organization Admits HIV/AIDS is "Gay Disease"

HildaBeast supports "gay" causes. Someone should ask her (it) if she (it) agrees with Professor Luttmann and his campus "gay community".

I can just hear the reporters now from the Lamestream media, "Hey, your Thighness ! Should "gay" people be encouraged to donate blood that is far more likely to be tainted with AIDS ?


21 posted on 03/08/2008 1:50:09 PM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: art_rocks

I believe it has to do with Mad Cow disease.


22 posted on 03/08/2008 1:51:18 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: Roberts
"The blood banks say if you are gay you are second-class, your blood isn't worthy,"

And they are right it's not.

The world is rapidly losing any excuse for its continued existence.
23 posted on 03/08/2008 1:53:53 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Roberts

If the FDA started allowing gay men to donate blood, I’d consider refusing a blood transfusion if I ever needed one. I’d still donate though.

They do have blood substitutes they give to people like JW’s who don’t want blood.


24 posted on 03/08/2008 1:58:52 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one recipe at a time http://www.youtube.com/Tamar1973)
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To: Roberts

The blood drives don’t accept my blood because of some medications I take. I wonder if I have cause for a lawsuit? < /sarc>


25 posted on 03/08/2008 1:59:39 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: Roberts

They ban me because I travel to Central America every year and it’s considered a malaria area even if I never see a mosquito on the entire trip.

I want damages! Punitive damages! DISCRIMINATION!!!


26 posted on 03/08/2008 2:03:02 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Roberts

I love how they have to be PC and state its not sexual orientation; its sexual history

what’s that saying “a man can build 1,000 bridges and never be known as a bridge builder, but....”

I want to ban liberal proffesors. They discriminate against free thinking people and apparently heterosexuals.


27 posted on 03/08/2008 2:22:21 PM PST by Operation_Shock_N_Awe (or however "Tuesdays" translates into Farsi)
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To: Roberts

Discrimination = lawful exercise of personal judgment.


28 posted on 03/08/2008 2:28:11 PM PST by Tax Government (Government-funded education, for the most part, is content to make morons of us all.)
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To: Roberts
Nashelsky, whose grandmother received blood during a medical emergency five years ago, said he has donated about 20 times in her name, opting in his words to "lie."

It should be a serious crime, in the same category as attempted murder, to falsify a medical history when giving blood.

29 posted on 03/08/2008 2:35:05 PM PST by Tax Government (Government-funded education, for the most part, is content to make morons of us all.)
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To: Roberts

Easy enough , “Happy People” get blood from their own type,the rest of us poor folks take care of our own.


30 posted on 03/08/2008 2:39:54 PM PST by silentreignofheroes (I'm Southron,,and I Vote..,..)
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To: pyx

Well, her hubby allowed it to happen in the prison system in Arkansas and hundreds of people were infected in Canada with HIV from the blood they took from the prisoners.


31 posted on 03/08/2008 2:43:13 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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Current HIV test can’t detect the disease if the donor recently contracted HIV. It takes time for the antibodies to develop. There was a case a few weeks ago of someone who got HIV from an organ transplant. We are not safe unless all homosexual men (the majority of carriers) are rejected.


32 posted on 03/08/2008 2:49:03 PM PST by webboy45
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To: bboop
Better yet...

This man is interfering with MY Right to LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit OF HAPPINNES

33 posted on 03/08/2008 2:56:03 PM PST by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: Roberts

The elephant in the room that EVERYONE ignores is that the homosexual lifestyle carries significant, potentially lethal, health hazards as is proven by the fact that a blood bank will turn away blood from gay males.

But do the health hazards of homosexuality ever get discussed? Are children warned about the LETHAL DANGERS?

They are told of the dangers of alcohol and drugs, but gay behavior? - Have at it, it’s “normal”!

We all are supposed to “accept” homosexuality or be branded a bigot. The press and the Gay lobby sweep the problems under the carpet as they beat the drum that there is nothing deviant about their behavior.

God, it would appear, has a different opinion.


34 posted on 03/08/2008 3:03:27 PM PST by Wil H
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To: bboop
Or are we supposed to believe that AIDS is just a conspiracy theory? I bet it’s that ....

No, AIDS is quite real. It was designed by a cabal of Jewish doctors that wanted to kill off blacks. I know this is true because the Honorable Louis Farrakhan (Peace Be Upon Him) told me so.

35 posted on 03/08/2008 3:19:20 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Roberts

Arthur Ashe was unavailable for comment...


36 posted on 03/08/2008 3:35:37 PM PST by 04-Bravo
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To: Wil H
But its not fair that only homos (full or part time) contract AIDS from other homos.

To make it fair they have a right to poison us all.

That way we are all equal.

/sarcasm off/


37 posted on 03/08/2008 3:44:45 PM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Roberts

Well, I can’t give blood because I’ve had malaria.

Who can I sue?


38 posted on 03/08/2008 3:49:17 PM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Roberts

I see no reason why sodomites should not be banned from giving blood considering they are the primary carriers of AIDS. Anal sex is nothing to be proud of or protected as special under law.


39 posted on 03/08/2008 4:50:59 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: All

In case you would like to email or call him heres the info

Name: Rick Luttmann
Job Title: Professor of Mathematics
Phone*: (707) 664 2543
Department: Mathematics
Building: Darwin
Room: 114-K
Email Address: rick.luttmann@sonoma.edu
URL:


40 posted on 03/08/2008 6:27:20 PM PST by troy McClure
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To: Roberts
The blood banks don't discriminate against gays when they need blood.

Truly the left wing is a suicide cult.

41 posted on 03/08/2008 9:01:04 PM PST by Salman
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To: chaosagent

They turned me down for donating last time because my iron count was too low! Can I sue, too? I sure could use some cash!


42 posted on 03/09/2008 1:36:59 PM PDT by buffyt (Obama raises more money in ten minutes than most workers make in a YEAR! and he picks on CEOs)
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To: bill1952

You forgot to add that we should be grateful for that. Let’s have a parade.


43 posted on 03/11/2008 10:38:33 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: R. Scott

good points you make. There are other criteria for blood donations and some will discriminate. There are restrictions about people who have traveled or lived in sub-Saharan Africa I think, or who have been in England during the mad cow outbreak, and a few other health concerns that the blood banks ask about.

Sometimes discriminiation makes sense. In a case of the blood supply, we’re supposed to increase risk to prove we don’t discriminate? But it’s a documented fact that homosexual sex in men spreads various diseases and is risky.

Don’t we all remember in the early to mid 80s there were many people who got AIDS from blood transfusions, specifically because there was no effective screening till then and AIDS was a newly discovered disease then. Why is it wrong to make common sense policies when the goal is public health?


44 posted on 03/12/2008 12:26:35 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Why is it wrong to make common sense policies when the goal is public health?

Common sense?
A person contracts syphilis, gonorrhea, tuberculosis and they go into the system. Their contacts are traced and tested.
A person contracts HIV and ... nothing. It would be discrimination. We mustn’t let it be known that a carrier is an IV drug user or homosexual. The public be damned.

45 posted on 03/12/2008 1:19:47 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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