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Hillary Clinton, Fratricidal Maniac
CBS News ^ | Mar.7, 2008 | Jonathan Chait

Posted on 03/08/2008 1:20:39 PM PST by COUNTrecount

The morning after Tuesday's primaries, Hillary Clinton's campaign released a memo titled "The Path to the Presidency." I eagerly dug into the paper, figuring it would explain how Clinton would obtain the Democratic nomination despite an enormous deficit in delegates. Instead, the memo offered a series of arguments as to why Clinton should run against John McCain - i.e., "Hillary is seen as the one who can get the job done" - but nothing about how she actually could. Is she planning a third-party run? Does she think Obama is going to die? The memo does not say.

The reason it doesn't say is that Clinton's path to the nomination is pretty repulsive. She isn't going to win at the polls. Barack Obama has a lead of 144 pledged delegates. That may not sound like a lot in a 4,000-delegate race, but it is. Clinton's Ohio win reduced that total by only nine. She would need 15 more Ohios to pull even with Obama. She isn't going to do much to dent, let alone eliminate, his lead.

That means, as we all have grown tired of hearing, that she would need to win with superdelegates. But, with most superdelegates already committed, Clinton would need to capture the remaining ones by a margin of better than two to one. And superdelegates are going to be extremely reluctant to overturn an elected delegate lead the size of Obama's. The only way to lessen that reluctance would be to destroy Obama's general election viability, so that superdelegates had no choice but to hand the nomination to her. Hence her flurry of attacks, her oddly qualified response as to whether Obama is a Muslim ("not as far as I know"), her repeated suggestions that John McCain is more qualified.

Clinton's justification for this strategy is that she needs to toughen up Obama for the general election-if he can't handle her attacks, he'll never stand up to the vast right-wing conspiracy. Without her hazing, warns the Clinton memo, "Democrats may have a nominee who will be a lightening rod of controversy." So Clinton's offensive against the likely nominee is really an act of selflessness. And here I was thinking she was maniacally pursuing her slim thread of a chance, not caring - or possibly even hoping, with an eye toward 2012 - that she would destroy Obama's chances of defeating McCain in the process. I feel ashamed for having suspected her motives.

Still, there are a few flaws in Clinton's trial-by-smear method. The first is that her attacks on Obama are not a fair proxy for what he'd endure in the general election, because attacks are harder to refute when they come from within one's own party. Indeed, Clinton is saying almost exactly the same things about Obama that McCain is: He's inexperienced, lacking in substance, unequipped to handle foreign policy. As The Washington Monthly's Christina Larson has pointed out, in recent weeks the nightly newscasts have consisted of Clinton attacking Obama, McCain attacking Obama, and then Obama trying to defend himself and still get out his own message. If Obama's the nominee, he won't have a high-profile Democrat validating McCain's message every day.

Second, Obama can't "test" Clinton the way she can test him. While she likes to claim that she beat the Republican attack machine, it's more accurate to say that she survived with heavy damage. Clinton is a wildly polarizing figure, with disapproval ratings at or near 50 percent. But, because she earned the intense loyalty of core Democratic partisans, Obama has to tread gingerly around her vulnerabilities. There is a big bundle of ethical issues from the 1990s that Obama has not raised because he can't associate himself with what partisan Democrats (but not Republicans or swing voters) regard as a pure GOP witch hunt.

What's more, Clinton has benefited from a favorable gender dynamic that won't exist in the fall. (In the Democratic primary, female voters have outnumbered males by nearly three to two.) Clinton's claim to being a tough, tested potential commander-in-chief has gone almost unchallenged. Obama could reply that being First Lady doesn't qualify you to serve as commander-in-chief, but he won't quite say that, because feminists are an important chunk of the Democratic electorate. John McCain wouldn't be so reluctant.

Third, negative campaigning is a negative-sum activity. Both the attacker and the attackee tend to see their popularity drop. Usually, the victim's popularity drops farther than the perpetrator's, which is why negative campaigning works. But it doesn't work so well in primaries, where the winner has to go on to another election.

Clinton's path to the nomination, then, involves the following steps: kneecap an eloquent, inspiring, reform-minded young leader who happens to be the first serious African American presidential candidate (meanwhile cementing her own reputation for Nixonian ruthlessness) and then win a contested convention by persuading party elites to override the results at the polls. The plan may also involve trying to seat the Michigan and Florida delegations, after having explicitly agreed that the results would not count toward delegate totals. Oh, and her campaign has periodically hinted that some of Obama's elected delegates might break off and support her. I don't think she'd be in a position to defeat Hitler's dog in November, let alone a popular war hero.

Some Clinton supporters, like my friend (and historian) David Greenberg, have been assuring us that lengthy primary fights go on all the time and that the winner doesn't necessarily suffer a mortal wound in the process. But Clinton's kamikaze mission is likely to be unusually damaging. Not only is the opportunity cost - to wrap up the nomination, and spend John McCain into the ground for four months - uniquely high, but the venue could not be less convenient. Pennsylvania is a swing state that Democrats will almost certainly need to win in November, and Clinton will spend seven weeks and millions of dollars there making the case that Obama is unfit to set foot in the White House. You couldn't create a more damaging scenario if you tried.

Imagine in 2000, or 2004, that George W. Bush faced a primary fight that came down to Florida (his November must-win state). Imagine his opponent decided to spend seven weeks pounding home the theme that Bush had a dangerous plan to privatize Social Security. Would this have improved Bush's chances of defeating the Democrats? Would his party have stood for it?


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; barackhusseinobama; chebama; cultofobama; hillary; hussein; marxism; nobama; obama; socialism

1 posted on 03/08/2008 1:20:40 PM PST by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

Gotta love the title.


2 posted on 03/08/2008 1:22:40 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: COUNTrecount

She hire Huckabee as her new motivational guru ?

You go girl........spend spend spend....just like ya would if ya already have won the election !


3 posted on 03/08/2008 1:24:59 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: COUNTrecount
There is a big bundle of ethical issues from the 1990s that Obama has not raised because he can't associate himself with what partisan Democrats (but not Republicans or swing voters) regard as a pure GOP witch hunt.

In other words, he can't tear down the curtain of pretense that Dems put up.

4 posted on 03/08/2008 1:25:42 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: COUNTrecount
"her oddly qualified response as to whether Obama is a Muslim ("not as far as I know")"

That WAS perhaps the most snarky, underhanded response I've ever heard from this MONSTER and I've heard many. (And no, I will not resign for having said this truth!)

5 posted on 03/08/2008 1:26:24 PM PST by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: COUNTrecount
kneecap an eloquent, inspiring, reform-minded young leader who happens to be the first serious African American presidential candidate (meanwhile cementing her own reputation for Nixonian ruthlessness) and then win a contested convention by persuading party elites to override the results at the polls.

She's in trouble if even The New Republic has figured out her plan.

6 posted on 03/08/2008 1:28:35 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: COUNTrecount

Today it’s reported that Bill Clinton thinks a Clinton-Obama team (in some order) would be unstoppable. This is why Rush Limbaugh was wrong and the “stop her now” contingent was right. We may wind up with Clinton on the ticket even if she loses to Obama, because she lost narrowly and wasn’t discouraged.


7 posted on 03/08/2008 1:40:40 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Homeschooled, homeschooling, will have homeschooled.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
I don't see a Obama/Clinton ticket. He is shrewed enough to know that would be a danger to his own life.

A Clinton/Obama ticket would put him on ice for 8 years. He might bargain that McCain if he won would be a one termer, so he could build up the his war chest and pad his resume for '12.

8 posted on 03/08/2008 1:49:17 PM PST by mware (Americans in arm chairs doing the job that the media refuses to do.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Rush Limbaugh was wrong because he forgot what the Clintons are! And forgot what they did to this country! Any patriot who remembers the Clinton years will remember that they not only disgraced our country, but also sold out our national security for money. Why would Rush Limbaugh, or any other patriot, be willing to play dice with America’s future?


9 posted on 03/08/2008 1:51:23 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: COUNTrecount

Red on red. Gotta love it.


10 posted on 03/08/2008 1:54:21 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The women got the vote and the Nation got Harding.)
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To: COUNTrecount

LOL - just another example of “the man” trying to keep a brother down!


11 posted on 03/08/2008 1:56:30 PM PST by Slump Tester (Only CINOs and democRATs knowingly and willingly vote for RINOs!)
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To: COUNTrecount
"It will be me." lol
12 posted on 03/08/2008 2:12:25 PM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Continental Soldier
Rush Limbaugh was wrong because he forgot what the Clintons are! And forgot what they did to this country! Any patriot who remembers the Clinton years will remember that they not only disgraced our country, but also sold out our national security for money. Why would Rush Limbaugh, or any other patriot, be willing to play dice with America’s future?

Rush Limbaugh was wrong cause he wanted to be wrong, he is intelligent enough to know what Clintons are.

Rush Limbaugh makes a lot more money when a Clinton is in office, follow the money stupid.

That why I stopped listening to Rush Limbaugh years ago.

13 posted on 03/08/2008 2:22:02 PM PST by Anticommie
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What's more, Clinton has benefited from a favorable gender dynamic that won't exist in the fall. (In the Democratic primary, female voters have outnumbered males by nearly three to two.)

As Donna Brazile, AlGore's large, black, lesbian campaign manager has stated, todays Dems are primarily women, blacks, lesbo/homos and "labor" unions.
14 posted on 03/08/2008 2:22:37 PM PST by flowerplough ( Hillary: "The harder she works, the worse it gets for the Dems." R. Cohen, WaPost (paraphrase)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Hillary’s negatives maybe at 50% today, but if she wins the nomination her negatives might be 70%.
Neither is going down easily and one has to go down, so it is going to be fun watching.
I can’t wait til florida and michigan file suit against the democratic party.


15 posted on 03/08/2008 2:29:40 PM PST by genghis
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
It is obvious why the Clintons are making these absurd remarks in the middle of a campaign they are losing. They are trying to convince super delegates and voters that they can get a twofer with Hillary's nomination. She will gladly offer him to be the VP. And she might even deign to serve as his VP. Now it is up to Obama to make a similar offer.

This is just plain nuts, but I put nothing past the Clintons and their perversions. It is sick.

16 posted on 03/08/2008 2:37:18 PM PST by kabar
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To: Anticommie

“... follow the money, stupid.”

“Stupid?” LOL


17 posted on 03/08/2008 2:41:31 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: Continental Soldier

Yes. Rush’s solution was, in effect, to keep Hillary politically alive so she could wind up a heartbeat away from the presidency.


18 posted on 03/08/2008 2:54:03 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Homeschooled, homeschooling, will have homeschooled.)
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To: mware
A Clinton/Obama ticket would put him on ice for 8 years.

If he's lucky! But she hates him, so if forced to put him on her ticket, Hillary would likely drown him in a bucket of warm spit. A Vice-President would be an easy victim for her.

19 posted on 03/08/2008 2:56:15 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Homeschooled, homeschooling, will have homeschooled.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

I can’t completely blame Rush for Hillary doing well in the last primaries; however, where Hillary is concerned I tend to think the “stop her now” idea was right.

Having said that, OBAMA seemed to let her knock him off-balance in the week before the recent primaries. He needs to learn to do like the Clintons do whenever they get “attached”, they mostly ignore it or else repeat,”I have done nothing wrong!” and then ignore it. He also needs to add some American flags to his rallies for color as well as WEAR more color and ask Michelle to wear some colored lip gloss or a colorful dress. He also needs a few signs with OBAMA on them - maybe his signature if he can write worth a flip (it would seem more personal than printed signs).


20 posted on 03/08/2008 3:00:04 PM PST by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God . . .)
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To: COUNTrecount

Golly, some hack as SeeBS News just decided hillary is a meanie? Man, those reporters are on top of everything, ain’t they?


21 posted on 03/08/2008 3:03:24 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Anticommie

Rush was #1 long before the clintons came to town, Brainiac.


22 posted on 03/08/2008 3:05:18 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Twinkie

I don’t mean to single out Rush, he’s just the most visible proponent of the strategy.


23 posted on 03/08/2008 3:08:27 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Homeschooled, homeschooling, will have homeschooled.)
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To: COUNTrecount

Does she think Obama is going to die?
+++++++++++++++++++
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, need you really ask that question?


24 posted on 03/08/2008 4:31:37 PM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: ozzymandus
Rush was #1 long before the clintons came to town, Brainiac.

Rush was #1 long before the clintons

Times have changed Dude.

25 posted on 03/09/2008 5:20:56 AM PDT by Anticommie
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To: Anticommie

So who’s #1 now, if not Rush?


26 posted on 03/09/2008 1:14:49 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

I have listened to Rush for so many years! And enjoyed his broadcasts, but his recent support for Hillary Clinton in the Texas democrat primary has left me completely cold. What the hell was wrong with him? When you have identified a candidate who is the worst for America, why, oh, why would you want to support that person anywhere at any time? By doing so, Rush has kept her alive for the presidency. Shame on him!


27 posted on 03/09/2008 1:35:20 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: Continental Soldier
I have listened to Rush for so many years! And enjoyed his broadcasts, but his recent support for Hillary Clinton in the Texas democrat primary has left me completely cold. What the hell was wrong with him? When you have identified a candidate who is the worst for America, why, oh, why would you want to support that person anywhere at any time? By doing so, Rush has kept her alive for the presidency. Shame on him!

I have listened to Rush for many years also, but I stopped when I realized that Rush puts his personal agenda above Rep Party, and even worse above of interest of our great country.

Rush admitted long time ago that he makes more money when a democrat, especially a Clinton is in office.

That's why he became Hillary enabler, this might be shock for many people, but unfortunately if you can not understand somebody's action, fallow the money.

Did you notice lately even CNN gives Rush some traction, they talk about him almost daily, when he was really a champion of conservatism, and a leader of "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" it was a no no of liberal media to even mention his name.

Doesn't this fact tells you something? The lame media do not consider Rush a liberals Nemesis anymore, that's why hi is not a taboo for them anymore, thats they give him some attention. Sad but true.

28 posted on 03/09/2008 6:11:59 PM PDT by Anticommie
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To: ozzymandus
So who’s #1 now, if not Rush?

#1 of what? read post 668 and other posts, if Rush do not want Hillary dead now risking a chance the beast can become POTUS he is no #1, shame on Rush.

29 posted on 03/09/2008 6:17:25 PM PDT by Anticommie
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