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Obama wins Wyoming Caucuses by double digits
Foxnews.com ^ | 03/08/2008 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 03/08/2008 3:50:56 PM PST by omega4179

Edited on 03/08/2008 7:53:12 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Nekman

“I live in a city whose population is more than 10X this....in one county..... tell me again why ANY of this matters? Based on my independent,albeit anecdotal polling, most are still more concerned with the outcome of this years American Idol”

In the delegate race, it matters. Only 7,000 votes, but Obama gained about 3 delegates on Clinton with this win. This plus Mississippi will undo part of her Ohio gains.


101 posted on 03/08/2008 8:10:44 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: Theodore R.

“WY is moving to the left like its northern neighbor, where Ted Turner has bought up so much property.” - Not really ...

” Maybe Obamamania has now come to WY too. Probably up in Jackson County in particular” - Obama is appealling to the kids on College campus and related academic precincts.

What is amazing is the energy, money, and passion behind Obama. Yet it remains a narrow slice of the electorate:
1. people too young to remember how bad a similar Jimmy Carter was.
2. Liberal progressive academic types.
3. Blacks

I worry about a weak economy and a weak campaign hurting McCain, but otherwise, McCain’s got so many lines of attack to hammer Obama:
- Obama is a left-liberal extremist
- Obama lacks experience to be CinC and has naive views on foreign policy
- Obama’s “patriotism gap” compared with
- Obama’s tax hikes and spending spree will hurt the economy
- obama is too anti-Israel and too soft on the islamic jihadists
- On Iraq, I honestly beleive he will mop the floor with Obama. Nobody wants to lose a war and McCain can make the case that only he will win the war and bring the troops home *with honor*.

The real GOP weak spot is going to be the economy. We have prospect of near 0% growth and/or recession, and
2 out of 3 say the economy is going in the wrong direction. The Democrats will try a redo on 1992 grounds. The Dems will make the economy the issue. McCain needs to bone up to survive the attacks on those grounds. He needs Gramm and Romney and others helping him on this.


102 posted on 03/08/2008 8:27:01 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: NRG1973
This further validates a theory proglomated by a Freeper, whose name I cannot recall.

Basically, the said Obama will win either in states that blacks are a majority of Democrat voters or in states where blacks are such a small minority that racial tensions are non-existent.

Hillary will win in states where blacks are not a large enough part of the Democrat voters to change the outcome but are large enough to cause racial tensions with lunchpail democrats.

It is not a nice theory, but it has so far proven accurate.

103 posted on 03/08/2008 8:44:09 PM PST by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: rwh

“Of course the local paper did manage to find the typical “Republican” who saw Obama speak and is going to vote for him in November.”

This shills are usually fed to the media by the campaign.
They call 1,000 Republicans and find a few that decide to switch. no biggie.
If you look at polls right now, McCain is behind, but
in McCain v Obama, they are pulling about equal numbers of ‘crossovers’ - the difference today is that # of self-identified Democrats is higher than # of self-identified Republicans in the polls.


104 posted on 03/08/2008 9:18:28 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: kabar

“Obama will win Texas once the caucus votes are tallied.”

Obama campaign already claimed a delegate victory.


105 posted on 03/08/2008 9:19:07 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: Freee-dame

“Wyoming doesn’t count” - Those words were actually said by Chris Matthews. They were in the tank for McCain.


106 posted on 03/08/2008 9:20:35 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: omega4179

Obama won the 133 Democrats in WY?


107 posted on 03/08/2008 9:22:51 PM PST by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Very often in GOP states, the demonRATs there are are even loonier left than they are are average.


108 posted on 03/08/2008 9:52:44 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: WOSG

Yes, McPain has ammunition that he can use, but will he, like Robert J. Dole in 1996, leave perfectly good issues on the table and defer to the Democrat by default? If he has no more passion that did Dole, he won’t go any further than Dole did. He can even cause Republican senators like Cornyn and McConnell to lose.


109 posted on 03/08/2008 9:58:37 PM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: WOSG

There was a congressional special election March 8 in Baton Rouge, and the Democrat turnout was 20,000 more than the Republican turnout, and this district has been GOP since 1975.


110 posted on 03/08/2008 10:00:23 PM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: CougarGA7

LO


111 posted on 03/08/2008 10:06:28 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Theodore R.

When is the actual special election? These are canaries in the coal mine.


112 posted on 03/08/2008 10:30:12 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: randita

“Don’t discount a big GOP crossover to vote Obama. I’m considering it myself, but want to wait another week or so and see how the polls shake out. If it stays in single digits for Hillary, I won’t bother.”

There is zero benefit in running up the score for either candidate right now. Hillary is dead candidate walking and the proportional allocations mean that your vote really doesnt add up to a hill of beans.


113 posted on 03/08/2008 10:31:38 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: CougarGA7

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114 posted on 03/08/2008 10:42:21 PM PST by rawhide
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To: RockinRight

“Obama won the 133 Democrats in WY?”

Twelve delegates at stake. According to this article, Obama won at least seven and Hillary won at least four. There is one outstanding.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/08/wyoming.caucus/index.html?eref=rss_topstories


115 posted on 03/09/2008 3:42:40 AM PDT by Mila
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To: omega4179
Hillary starts losing momentum again...

She'll lose Mississippi as well...

116 posted on 03/09/2008 3:46:33 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: omega4179; All
Obama now is winning 26 to 14 over hillary.
Looking at U.S. Map it looks like Obama have the midwestern states and western upper states, and most of the SOUTH.
Next stop Mississippi and if he wins MS...its number 27

http://origin.barackobama.com/resultscenter/

117 posted on 03/09/2008 5:40:33 AM PDT by Orlando
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To: WOSG

They have a legitimate reason to claim victory. With 41% of the caucus vote tallied, Obama leads Hillary 56% to 44%. There are 38 delegates at stake. Hillary won 65 delegates to Obama’s 61 in the direct primary so Obama needs to win more than four delegates than Hillary in the caucus to win the state. He will do that.


118 posted on 03/09/2008 6:14:11 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Orlando

This is what I feel might happen...


mar 11...Mississippi.. 33-—————> I predict Obama 27-14(60% to 40%)
apr 22...Pennsylvania.. 151————>I predict Hillary..27-15(Hillary 51% to 49%)
may 3...Guam ..3——————————> Obama...........28-15( 70% -30%)
may 6....Indiana.. 66————————> Obama...........29-15(62% to 38%)
May 6....North Carolina.. 91-————> Obama..........30-15..(65%-35%) ***
may 13...West Virginia.. 26
May 20....Kentucky.. 47
May 20....Oregon.. 48
Jun 3...Montana.. 15
Jun 3...South Dakota.. 14
June 7...Puerto Rico..55

If Mich and Florida redo...in summer?

Mich... Obama (52% to 48%)
Florida..Hillary..(51 % to 49%)...(+/-...1%)
Note: (FL)...Alot of the New York Snow birds won’t be here to vote twice...


119 posted on 03/09/2008 6:19:43 AM PDT by Orlando
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To: EGPWS
B.S.! After all this is a Clinton in this campaign.

If this had been anyone other than the Clintons, the candidate would have dropped out of the race conceding to Obama. She can't make up the difference in pledged delegates no matter what she does in the remaining primaries. Even a compromise on seating the MI and FL delegations will not be enough.

He!! or high water, "shystering" ways, murder, loss of sovereignty, what ever it takes, she WILL be the dimocratic nominee. It's her only want in life. It "ain't" over until it's over.

As I have stated previously, it will be up to the superdelegates who will have the choice of stealing the election from the black guy by overturning the results at the ballot box in favor of the Clintons or supporting the "people's choice." Will the Democrat Party commit political suicide by siding with the Clintons knowing that the consequences will not only affect this election, but also, future ones? IMO they will not sacrifice the party for the Clintons.

120 posted on 03/09/2008 6:22:09 AM PDT by kabar
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To: jmaroneps37
Very nice. Barack McGovern here we come!

My belief also.

The country is starting to get a good look at Obama and that is why his long winning streak came to an end last Tuesday. He is clearly losing momentum in the race for the nomination. I think you would see the same trend in the general election as the independent types in the middle of the political spectrum start to have second thoughts about electing someone President of the United States just because he looks good and gives a good speech.

I think we have a better shot at beating Obama than beating Hillary.

121 posted on 03/09/2008 6:22:51 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Theodore R.
Maybe the folks in WY just detest hillary rather than love obama.
122 posted on 03/09/2008 6:24:31 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: InterceptPoint

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3511833.ece

“...Former senator Bill Bradley, who is a leading supporter of Obama and ran for president in 2000, accused the Clintons of “lying” in pursuit of victory.

“The bigger the lie, the better the chance they think they’ve got. That’s been their whole approach,” he said. “She’s going to lose a whole generation of people who got involved in politics believing it could be something different.”

Bradley believes that Clinton will stop at nothing to tear down Obama even if it boosts John McCain, who was confirmed last week as the Republican nominee: “The Clintons do not do long-term planning. They’re total tacticians and right now their focus is on Obama, not McCain...”


McCain will win the support of alot of fathers in the fathers/Pro-family movements, because of Bill Bradley support for Obama...

why?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1588007/posts

Bill Bradley is the most hated elected-offical(more than Hillary) in the fathers movement, because of 42/666...


123 posted on 03/09/2008 6:56:06 AM PDT by Orlando
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To: omega4179

Another liberal college town goes for Baaarack Hussein Obamamamadingdong. What else is new?


124 posted on 03/09/2008 7:03:18 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Orlando

I cover this subject too long ago...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1586861/posts

Once the father movement gets this news.
McCain will get alot of support... me included


125 posted on 03/09/2008 7:07:00 AM PDT by Orlando
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Primary re-does costly
(Fast Eddie Rendell RAT-PA - “pass the plate, caucuses are not democratic”)
Mining Journal | 3/08/08
Posted on 03/09/2008 7:04:37 AM PDT by Libloather
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1982838/posts

It’s over
The Hill | 3/9/08 | Dick Morris [however, note author]
Posted on 03/09/2008 8:59:28 AM PDT by xtinct
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1982883/posts

16,000 Republicans in Cuyahoga crossed over and voted Democratic in primary
The Cleveland Plain Dealer | Sunday, March 09, 2008 | Amanda Garrett
Posted on 03/09/2008 5:22:14 AM PDT by EBH
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1982792/posts

Larry David Fears Hillary Answering Phone (George Costanza dumps Hillary)
Outside the Beltway | March 6, 2008 | James Joyner
Posted on 03/09/2008 7:32:07 AM PDT by tlb
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1982846/posts

Tucker Carlson unintentionally reveals the role of the American press
Salon | March 8, 2008 | Glenn Greenwald
Posted on 03/09/2008 7:05:59 AM EDT by Iron Munro
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1982782/posts

Party Donations Show G.O.P. Edge
NY Times | 7 March 2008 | By LESLIE WAYNE
Posted on 03/07/2008 7:59:35 AM PST by shrinkermd
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1981949/posts

Dennis Hastert’s seat lost in Special Election today
Fox News-Star Tribune | March 8th, 2008 | AP
Posted on 03/08/2008 7:56:08 PM PST by The_Republican
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1982732/posts

Schwarzenegger denounces ‘outrageous’ homeschooling ruling
San Francisco Chronicle | 3/7/2008 | Jill Tucker and Bob Egelko
Posted on 03/07/2008 6:36:30 PM PST by GVnana
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1982278/posts

S.F. mayor may run for governor { Newsom }
San Francisco Chronicle | 3/9/8 | Cecilia M. Vega
Posted on 03/09/2008 8:21:54 AM PDT by SmithL
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1982867/posts

BREAKING NEWS: Judge declares mistrial in agent’s murder case
Sierra Vista Herald/Bisbee Review
Posted on 03/07/2008 4:03:49 PM PST by SandRat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1982229/posts

Venezuela, Ecuador, Colombia Agree To End Dispute
TNNZ
Posted on 03/07/2008 2:09:32 PM PST by maquiladora
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1982156/posts


126 posted on 03/09/2008 11:12:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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To: johnny7

Is this Hussein the Muslim, that McCain says we can’t talk about?


127 posted on 03/09/2008 3:16:11 PM PDT by We Dare Defend Our Rights
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To: NRG1973
Pennsylvania is a closed primary...you can't crossover in that state.

Crossover was a poor choice of words. What I meant is that you can change your party affiliation by March 22 (30 days prior) so lots of Republicans may change to Democrat to vote for Obama, then change back to GOP after the primary. But then you couldn't vote for local and state GOP candidates.

128 posted on 03/09/2008 4:47:13 PM PDT by randita (We're having to cut back to afford gas. When's the government going to cut back!)
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To: WOSG
There is zero benefit in running up the score for either candidate right now.

For me, it would have nothing to do with the score. It would be to disprove Fast Eddie's declaration that people in PA won't vote for a black man (even though a LOT of us voted for Swannie). It would be only for the satisfaction of having Fast Eddie eat those words.

129 posted on 03/09/2008 4:50:11 PM PDT by randita (We're having to cut back to afford gas. When's the government going to cut back!)
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To: kingattax
hellary wins primaries in larger states with big hispanic populations.

You mean like Ohio, TN, Rhode Island, MA and NJ (where the "large hispanic population" is not large enough to swing elections yet).

Obama wins in states where the black population constitutes a near majority of the Dem vote (the South) or in state where the black population is too small to create "tension" with the whites (especially blue collar whites). Hillary wins where there are large swathes of blue collar whites, particularly white Catholics, and a history of "racial tension" (Ohio, NJ, NY, MA, etc.).

Hispanics were a factor in CA and TX, but not so much elsewhere. It was the lunchpail whites and elderly women who gave Hillary most of her votes. I look at my own state and NJ, and notice that while Obama won my county (home to Princeton University and the State Capitol), Hillary won overwhelmingly in the blue collar counties facing Philadelphia.

130 posted on 03/09/2008 9:37:23 PM PDT by Clemenza (I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
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To: Vigilanteman; NRG1973
This further validates a theory proglomated by a Freeper, whose name I cannot recall.

Basically, the said Obama will win either in states that blacks are a majority of Democrat voters or in states where blacks are such a small minority that racial tensions are non-existent.

That would be me. ;-)

I may be un-PC to say that, but it is true. I saw it happen on the ground here in Jersey, and it even explains why the counties that went for Hillary voted for her in the first place.

131 posted on 03/09/2008 9:54:57 PM PDT by Clemenza (I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
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To: rdl6989
Visiting there is on my top ten list of things to do before I kick the bucket.

I've only been through there once, but I had already been through Europe and the spellbinding highlands of Scotland and the gorgeous Alps in Switzerland and Italy and the Pyrennes of Spain and Andorra, and I can say without a doubt that Wyoming is the most beautiful of them all, and the most beautiful state in the Union.

132 posted on 03/09/2008 11:39:02 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter.óWChurchill)
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To: Clemenza
Congratulations. The only place where your theory hasn't held 100% correct is New Hampshire. And even then, one can make a reasonable argument that either (a)New Hampshire has become a suburb of Boston where the racial tension theory plays or (b)the Hillary crying episode worked with weak-willed women and girly men. Probably some of both.

People may call you un-PC, but they can also call you correct.

133 posted on 03/10/2008 7:15:46 AM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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