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[Republican] Crossover voting was heavy -- and maybe illegal: Ohio
Cleveland Plian Dealer ^ | March 08, 2008 | Amanda Garrett

Posted on 03/08/2008 7:20:22 PM PST by rface

It started a few weeks ago when conservative radio powerhouse Rush Limbaugh suggested that his Republican following cross over during the primary to vote for Clinton. Clinton, Limbaugh argued, would be easier for McCain to beat in November......

A staggering 16,000-plus Republicans in Cuyahoga County switched parties when they voted in last week's primary.

At least one member of the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections wants to investigate some Republicans who may have crossed party lines only to influence which Democrat would face John McCain.

Anyone who crossed lines was supposed to sign a pledge card vowing allegiance to their new party. In Cuyahoga County, dozens and dozens of Republicans scribbled addendums onto their pledges as new Democrats.

"For one day only."

"I don't believe in abortion."

A Plain Dealer review of thousands of records showed few of those who switched were challenged by poll workers.

Ohio voters are allowed to switch party affiliations on the day of a primary election but only if they sign a pledge vowing to support their new party - and mean it.

Lying on the pledge is a felony, punishable by six to 12 months in jail and a $2,500 fine.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.cleveland.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: crossovervote; hillary; oh2008
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this is an entertaining article.
1 posted on 03/08/2008 7:20:23 PM PST by rface
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To: rface

Yeah we know all about crossover voting here in Michigan.


2 posted on 03/08/2008 7:22:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: cripplecreek

And in NH and SC


3 posted on 03/08/2008 7:23:48 PM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: cripplecreek

Is crossover voting anything like crossdressing?


4 posted on 03/08/2008 7:24:34 PM PST by billorites (Freepo ergo sum)
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To: cripplecreek

How about a dem crossing over and voting for Mc Cain.... no problem with that?


5 posted on 03/08/2008 7:25:13 PM PST by JoanneSD (illegals represented without taxation.. Americans taxed without representation)
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To: rface

Anyone who voted for Hillary must be sincere or they wouldn’t have done it - I could never do it.


6 posted on 03/08/2008 7:25:26 PM PST by donna ("I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.” - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: rface

For somebody as utterly humorless as Amanda Garrett, she sure writes funny stuff.


7 posted on 03/08/2008 7:25:47 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: cripplecreek

Wow, I must sign a pledge card and double dog swear. What next, a brain activity sensor to see if you are telling the truth? The silly season is here.


8 posted on 03/08/2008 7:26:27 PM PST by nyconse
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To: rface

Oh those rascally mischievous Republican mavericks, they’re at it again.


9 posted on 03/08/2008 7:27:31 PM PST by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: nyconse

“What next, a brain activity sensor to see if you are telling the truth?”

Don’t give those ‘Rats any ideas.......


10 posted on 03/08/2008 7:28:56 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: rface

Oh, BOO HOO!

What’s good for the goose.... I wonder if the same attention and whining will be editorialized when they, the dimorats, stuff the ballot boxes with votes from illegal aliens and dead people who are still on the registers?

Too funny.


11 posted on 03/08/2008 7:29:01 PM PST by Shortwave (Islamofascism is NOT America's greatest enemy, our apathy is.)
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To: rface
Clinton, Limbaugh argued, would be easier for McCain to beat in November......

They can't even get this right. That's not what Rush said. He said he wanted to keep the nomination process going as long as possible to "bloody" the candidates and force this to the convention, which looks like it will.

12 posted on 03/08/2008 7:29:22 PM PST by umgud
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To: rface
One .. more .. time ...


13 posted on 03/08/2008 7:29:31 PM PST by mikrofon ( {** sigh **})
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To: rface
Ohio voters are allowed to switch party affiliations on the day of a primary election but only if they sign a pledge vowing to support their new party - and mean it.

Since the general election has the candidates from all the parties that qualify to be on the ballot, and since it is a secret ballot (even in Ohio) this is a meaningless pledge (except for those with too much integrity to lie, i.e. most conservatives).

14 posted on 03/08/2008 7:30:15 PM PST by FairWitness
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To: rface
only if they sign a pledge vowing to support their new party - and mean it. Lying on the pledge is a felony ......

proving this in a court would be near impossible and a huge waste of resources

15 posted on 03/08/2008 7:30:33 PM PST by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
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To: rface

If they said “for one day only” they weren’t lying! LOL!


16 posted on 03/08/2008 7:32:26 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one recipe at a time http://www.youtube.com/Tamar1973)
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To: Magnum44
proving this in a court would be near impossible and a huge waste of resources

Since when do Dimmocrats care about wasting resources?!

17 posted on 03/08/2008 7:33:10 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one recipe at a time http://www.youtube.com/Tamar1973)
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To: rface

Just tell the court appointed lawyer you want to plead “temporary insanity” when they prosecute.


18 posted on 03/08/2008 7:34:14 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Senator McCain, what did GWB promise you back in 2000? And you believed him? BWAHAAAAA!)
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To: rface

For one day only, I don’t believe in abortions.

This is hilarious!! Guess the Dems don’t like their own game being played, eh?


19 posted on 03/08/2008 7:34:32 PM PST by Southerngl
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To: rface
Ohio voters are allowed to switch party affiliations on the day of a primary election but only if they sign a pledge vowing to support their new party - and mean it.

Maybe they DID mean it. They just changed their minds immediately after voting.

Hey Rats, ain't payback a bitch? (LOL)

20 posted on 03/08/2008 7:34:36 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: rface

Lying on the pledge is a felony, punishable by six to 12 months in jail and a $2,500 fine.

ROFLMAO! Yeah, that will stand up in court.


21 posted on 03/08/2008 7:34:48 PM PST by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: rface
Anyone who crossed lines was supposed to sign a pledge card vowing allegiance to their new party

Consider, please, my Screen Name, and please pardon me for shouting:

Shouldn't that Party (ahem, both of them) and its Candidates vow and MEAN allegiance to the UNITED STATES FLAG and CONSTITUTION?!?!?
22 posted on 03/08/2008 7:36:11 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Magnum44; rface
proving this in a court would be near impossible and a huge waste of resources

Well if you switched affiliations to DemocRAT but donated money to the RNC and Repuplican candidates, it would be pretty easy to demonstrate bad faith. All it would take would be to cross reference the voter roll database to a political contributions database.

23 posted on 03/08/2008 7:37:56 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: rface
Lying on the pledge is a felony, punishable by six to 12 months in jail and a $2,500 fine.

It would really be fun if they did prosecute a bunch.

24 posted on 03/08/2008 7:38:43 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: cripplecreek
Does this negate or highlight the freaking busloads of Massholes, New Yawkahs, and newly minted Vermont lunatics who voted in New Hampshire? I saw them all crossing the border, everyone else saw them over the weekend..
does this mean Mitt actually won NH but we don't get a “re-Do” because we are Not Sleaze-o-crats?
Maybe that Moter-Voter same day registration is biting you in the ass now.... Howard.. Howard Dean.. please pick up the white courtesy scream phone
25 posted on 03/08/2008 7:39:08 PM PST by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: JoanneSD
How about a dem crossing over and voting for Mc Cain.... no problem with that?

Not the same thing, they are still voting for a democrat!

26 posted on 03/08/2008 7:39:55 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: rface

“Your Honor, when I signed the pledge, I meant it before I didn’t mean it.”


27 posted on 03/08/2008 7:40:13 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: rface

As a resident of Medina county (Ohio), I was fourth in line to vote when I arrived at my local polling station. All those in front of me declared their party affiliation as required … all were democrats. When my turn came, I declared myself “Republican”. You could have heard a mouse fart with all the sudden silence that ensued, it was most deafening. ;-)


28 posted on 03/08/2008 7:40:41 PM PST by doc1019 (God is in control ... not Global Warming.)
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To: rface

The only way to deal with this problem is to put thousands of Ohio Republican crossover voters in jail and let the murderers, robbers and rapists go free.


29 posted on 03/08/2008 7:41:23 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Huh. I walked up and was asked if I was voting democrat or Republican. That was it.


30 posted on 03/08/2008 7:41:25 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: doc1019

Same here lol. It was funny.


31 posted on 03/08/2008 7:43:44 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Shouldn't that Party (ahem, both of them) and its Candidates vow and MEAN allegiance to the UNITED STATES FLAG and CONSTITUTION?!?!?

You've got to be kidding.

Neither party wants patriots, they both want and need brain dead lemmings regardless of the cost.

The age of flag and country is long dead.
32 posted on 03/08/2008 7:47:32 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: rface

It’s a good thing that this was not Chicago or Philly! Half of the dead folk there would have crossed over!!!!!!!!!


33 posted on 03/08/2008 7:47:56 PM PST by ErieGeno
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To: rface

It’s only “illegal” if Republicans do it. However, when they crossed over to vote, they became DemocRATS for that day. Therefore, no crime.


34 posted on 03/08/2008 7:48:49 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (With all this voter fraud, being able to vote has become overrated.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

MUST-SEE video.

http://www.alankeyes.com/video?clip=080303unt


35 posted on 03/08/2008 7:48:52 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: CindyDawg

“It started a few weeks ago when conservative radio powerhouse Rush Limbaugh suggested that his Republican following cross over during the primary to vote for Clinton. Clinton, Limbaugh argued, would be easier for McCain to beat in November......”

Limbaugh never said this. He wants Republicans to crossover to help wreak havoc in the dim party and he hopes that they will have a contentious convention whereby Hitlery steals the nomination. He has never said the she would be easier to beat than Obambi the Obamalyptic candidate.


36 posted on 03/08/2008 7:49:34 PM PST by appeal2 (r)
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To: doc1019

My grandparents, who live in the Cleveland area, would have fits if they knew I was a Republican.


37 posted on 03/08/2008 7:50:20 PM PST by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: rface
Ohio voters are allowed to switch party affiliations on the day of a primary election but only if they sign a pledge vowing to support their new party - and mean it.

I dare them to try to make that argument...I HIGHLY doubt the wording in the regulations stipulates "and mean it"...LOL.

38 posted on 03/08/2008 7:51:16 PM PST by highlander_UW (illegal alien is to an undocumented worker as a drug dealer is to an unlicensed pharmacist)
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To: Cicero

Coming from the same party who gave us “It all depends on what the meaning of the word is is.” this is rich!


39 posted on 03/08/2008 7:51:16 PM PST by Deaner59 (Department of Redundancy Department)
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To: appeal2

I didn’t post that. I seldom listen to Rush.


40 posted on 03/08/2008 7:52:10 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

The little old lady (polling volunteer) who was processing my voting “credit card” completely lost her sense of humor when I approached her. I made a point of being very nice to her and wished her a very nice day. ;-)


41 posted on 03/08/2008 7:53:00 PM PST by doc1019 (God is in control ... not Global Warming.)
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To: rface

Mark Belling (local talkshow host in Milwaukee) said the only way to have voter ID laws and stricter election rules would be for Republicans to cheat like the Democrats do. It looks like he may be on to something.


42 posted on 03/08/2008 7:54:09 PM PST by LukeL
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To: doc1019

I got celebrity treatment.


43 posted on 03/08/2008 7:54:32 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: JoanneSD

Eggxactly, Joanne! Well said! Touche!


44 posted on 03/08/2008 7:56:05 PM PST by levotb
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To: LukeL

This election..large conservative counties need to hold out reporting. They always play chicken but blink first.


45 posted on 03/08/2008 7:57:52 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

Of course my sweat shirt proclaiming “Vote Republican if you value life” didn’t help much.


46 posted on 03/08/2008 7:59:35 PM PST by doc1019 (God is in control ... not Global Warming.)
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To: doc1019

I didn’t think you could do that.


47 posted on 03/08/2008 8:01:30 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: rface
Pledge to the new party? Are you kidding me? This is hilarious, they get upset that people didn't pledge allegiance to the Rat party, but they refuse to let anyone pledge allegiance to the US. They don't get upset over that, or treason, but this they do?????
48 posted on 03/08/2008 8:03:58 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I dont think that proves anything....many wall streeters contribute to both parties...

but my point was you really cant prove intent...that would require you to read the voters mind...which aint gonna happen...

it would be perfectly acceptable as a defense to say you woke up on super tuesday and was sure you were going to vote democrat this year, and then you saw some candidates remarks on the news following your ballot casting, and claim you realized what a huge mistake you made and you’ll never vote democrat again...until next time:)


49 posted on 03/08/2008 8:04:00 PM PST by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
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To: CindyDawg

Being the coward that I am, I didn’t open my winter coat to reveal this political statement until I had voted and was leaving the polling station. ;-)


50 posted on 03/08/2008 8:05:05 PM PST by doc1019 (God is in control ... not Global Warming.)
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