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Mom on Trial for Leaving Child in Car for Minutes
Fox News ^ | 03-12-2008

Posted on 03/12/2008 12:53:40 PM PDT by Southerngl

Case of Illinois Mother on Trial for Leaving Child in Car for Minutes Sparks Debate CHICAGO — Treffly Coyne was out of her car for just minutes and no more than 10 yards away. But that was long and far enough to land her in court after a police officer spotted her sleeping 2-year-old daughter alone in the vehicle; Coyne had taken her two older daughters to pour $8.29 in coins into a Salvation Army kettle. Minutes later, she was under arrest — the focus of both a police investigation and a probe by the state's child welfare agency. Now the case that has become an Internet flash point for people who either blast police for overstepping their authority or Coyne for putting a child in danger. The 36-year-old suburban mother is preparing to go on trial Thursday on misdemeanor charges of child endangerment and obstructing a peace officer. If convicted, she could be sentenced to a year in jail and fined $2,500, even though child welfare workers found no credible evidence of abuse or neglect. On Dec. 8 Coyne decided to drive to Wal-Mart in the Chicago suburb of Crestwood so her children and a young friend could donate the coins they'd collected at her husband's office.

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1 posted on 03/12/2008 12:53:41 PM PDT by Southerngl
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To: Southerngl

Crazy. If she had the car in sight—? Hey, arrest me.


2 posted on 03/12/2008 12:55:56 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Time for Conservatives to go Free Agent)
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To: Southerngl

This is insane. Absolutely insane.


3 posted on 03/12/2008 12:56:15 PM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: Southerngl
If convicted, she could be sentenced to a year in jail and fined $2,500

It's ALL about the money. They couldn't care one wit about the child.

4 posted on 03/12/2008 12:56:22 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Southerngl

I expect this kind of authoritarian nonsense in Illinois. When the people are debarred the use of arms the government’s natural inclination is towards tyranny.


5 posted on 03/12/2008 12:56:46 PM PDT by PeterFinn (I am not voting for McCain. No way, no how.)
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To: Southerngl
Terrible. And just wait until the Carbon Police are sworn in.
6 posted on 03/12/2008 12:57:29 PM PDT by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: Southerngl

bttt


7 posted on 03/12/2008 12:59:19 PM PDT by aberaussie
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To: Southerngl

Maybe they wanted her to stay in the car and send her two young daughters out to put the money in. That seems more risky to me.

This is absurd. There should be NO law prohibiting a child from being alone in an OBSERVED vehicle.


8 posted on 03/12/2008 1:00:58 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Southerngl

Wait. How many women and men have left a child in a car that has DIED, and NOT been prosecuted?

And this POOR mom gets targeted for leaving a child for moments only, to donate to a Christian cause. Right? This smells.


9 posted on 03/12/2008 1:01:06 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: fleagle

“This is insane. Absolutely insane.”

Yep. Selling national security related technology to foreign governments for laundered campaign contributions is OK, but getting out of your car to put money in a Salvation Army kettle while your child is within eyesight in your own vehicle is a criminal act.


10 posted on 03/12/2008 1:01:06 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: fleagle

The criminal justice system is just another government bureaucracy, and as such is just another all-devouring monster. It takes people in as raw meat and grinds them into sausage. Any result from that system you could call “justice” is merely the unintended byproduct of sausage grinding.


11 posted on 03/12/2008 1:02:36 PM PDT by henkster (Go to the local welfare office or BMV to see what government health care will be like.)
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To: Southerngl

The AP story

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1984526/posts


12 posted on 03/12/2008 1:03:10 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: fleagle

Who is John Galt?


13 posted on 03/12/2008 1:04:30 PM PDT by RobRoy (I'm confused. I mean, I THINK I am, but I'm not sure. But I could be wrong about that.)
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To: Southerngl

>>...obstructing a peace officer<<

I wasn’t there, but this may be the one that has teeth, depending on what she did.


14 posted on 03/12/2008 1:05:17 PM PDT by RobRoy (I'm confused. I mean, I THINK I am, but I'm not sure. But I could be wrong about that.)
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To: Southerngl

No jury is going to convict her. I wonder if the reason she got charged at all really had more to do with “obstructing a peace officer” (perhaps with shoving and/or foul language) than with leaving the child unattended but within sight for a few minutes. On the other hand, this may well be a case where an officer thought he saw a serious situation, got hot under the collar, and then didn’t want to admit he was wrong and back down when he started getting the real picture. The jury will sort it out, but I suspect even if she gave him a nasty shove and hurled obscenities at him, the jury will buy that this was a mother desperate to get back to her toddler, and that the officer shouldn’t have gotten between them.


15 posted on 03/12/2008 1:07:17 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Southerngl

More awesome police work!, Brilliant!


16 posted on 03/12/2008 1:08:18 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: RobRoy

She probably freaked out when the cop confronted her and told her he was taking her child into “protective custody.” So when the State comes down on you, if you dare protest, you will be crushed...


17 posted on 03/12/2008 1:08:40 PM PDT by henkster (Go to the local welfare office or BMV to see what government health care will be like.)
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To: Southerngl

I heard her attorney on WLSAM. I think they’re going to bore the officer another poopchute.


18 posted on 03/12/2008 1:10:47 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Would you leave a million dollars in a car?


19 posted on 03/12/2008 1:12:31 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: TruthConquers

Last year there were 900 incidents where children were left unattended in vehicles. Over 200 of them died.


20 posted on 03/12/2008 1:14:13 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy
Last year there were 900 incidents where children were left unattended in vehicles. Over 200 of them died.

How many of them were cases where the parent was only away for a few moments, and had the vehicle in plain sight the whole time?

21 posted on 03/12/2008 1:15:32 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Men fight well when they know that no prisoners will be taken.)
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To: nkycincinnatikid

I guess I didn’t realize they’d gotten all the hookers and drug dealers and gang-bangers off the streets of Chicago.


22 posted on 03/12/2008 1:16:21 PM PDT by beelzepug ("That a-hole Bill Maher stole my tagline!")
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To: Southerngl

So do we arrest anyone who fuels their car while leaving their child inside? After all, *gasp* what if the parent has to walk to the cashier window and pay for the fuel?

Not only will no jury convict her, the police dept. and prosecutor’s office should have to pay her attorney fees.


23 posted on 03/12/2008 1:16:54 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand
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Here's the Mom.

What is the verdict?

24 posted on 03/12/2008 1:19:12 PM PDT by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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To: massgopguy

And how many have been prosecuted?

Most don’t seem to get anything. But this lady is hauled away and her three children left at the store, UNATTENDED.

Yeah, that was the right thing to do.

And I’m one of those mom’s who didn’t like to leave my baby in the car while I paid for my gas. Dad would fill my car up for me instead. What a guy!


25 posted on 03/12/2008 1:21:09 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: massgopguy
Last year there were 900 incidents where children were left unattended in vehicles.

Where the parents were a few feet away and able to observe the vehicle?

There was probably tens of thousands of incidents.

26 posted on 03/12/2008 1:21:11 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: massgopguy
Would you leave a million dollars in a car?

For two minutes while I walked 10 yards away with the car never out of my sight? Sure, why not?

27 posted on 03/12/2008 1:21:17 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: massgopguy
Last year there were 900 incidents where children were left unattended in vehicles.

I didn't know I was being watched so intently but 300 of those incidents were mine. Do it almost every day. Didn't know it was a crime. IS there anything left that isn't a crime?

28 posted on 03/12/2008 1:21:34 PM PDT by LordBridey
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To: RobRoy

This is usually just a throw-away charge for someone who was going to be arrested anyway. Not usually much required to get charged with obstruction.


29 posted on 03/12/2008 1:21:48 PM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: Rio

Not guilty.


30 posted on 03/12/2008 1:22:15 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Southerngl

If she was donating to Planned Parenthood, this would all go away.


31 posted on 03/12/2008 1:23:56 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Mamzelle

Leftist Facist nazis on Patroll..Making the world safer for the Brave new world.


32 posted on 03/12/2008 1:24:27 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Southerngl
Was at Wall Mart to make a donation. Thus it must be true:

"NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED."

33 posted on 03/12/2008 1:25:11 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All)
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Wait. How many women and men have left a child in a car that has DIED, and NOT been prosecuted?

And this POOR mom gets targeted for leaving a child for moments only, to donate to a Christian cause. Right? This smells.

The first thoughts I had when I read the headline. There were so many cases where the mother has gotten off but the one of the principal that left her child in 90-degree heat all day and of course claimed she thought she had dropped the child off at daycare. But then there was video of her RETURNING TO THE CAR SEVERAL TIMES and yet she failed to notice her child. I think it was for smoke breaks. Discusting but all relevant to ones position in life as far as the cases I have read.

34 posted on 03/12/2008 1:25:46 PM PDT by torchthemummy (W's Margin Of Victory In Florida 2000 - 537 / FL House Bill Number To Move Up Florida Primary - 537)
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To: Southerngl
They would never do this to her if she was Black. They'd be screaming "racism" up and down the block.

Whether people realize it or not, there is a war going on against the generally law-abiding taxpayer. Its much easier to squeeze the compliant than go after real criminals.

35 posted on 03/12/2008 1:27:38 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Actually, Harrison’s Hope was founded because parents who left children in a van and were right next to it watched as the van went into gear because the kids touched the shifter and careened across a park on the Missouri river and killed Harrison Struttman and seriously injured his sister and mother who could not even attend her son’s funeral.
Some parents have even been unfortunate to watch their car get stolen from in front of the convenience store they went in to.


36 posted on 03/12/2008 1:27:55 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

That’s not what I asked, however.

Hey, I think a parent would have to be incredibly stupid to leave their child alone in a vehicle, even if in plain sight. However, I’m always suspect when we see vague statistics thrown around with no underlying context to them. The skeptical side of me.


37 posted on 03/12/2008 1:30:01 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Men fight well when they know that no prisoners will be taken.)
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Justice doesn’t seem to matter anymore. Just political correctness. I do wonder if the donation made her and her children a target.


38 posted on 03/12/2008 1:30:39 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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The 36-year-old suburban mother is preparing to go on trial Thursday on misdemeanor charges of child endangerment

Another case of a state agency looking to justify their existence.

My boy and his wife lived in Monroeville, AL. One night their 10-year-old son was put to bed, he and a buddy decided to play cop. They climbed out the bedroom window and went into town, shining a flashlight into storefronts "looking for robbers".

The cops brought the kids home and the parents thought that was the end of it. The next day a case worker came around to "investigate". My boy told him that he put the kid to bed and that was it. "So, you left the chid unattended. We'll have to look into this." Luckily the wife knew the mayor's wife and one phone call scuttled that gambit but it scared the yell out of the wife as the guy was talking about taking the kid. They left the state soon after.

39 posted on 03/12/2008 1:36:19 PM PDT by Oatka (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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Would you leave a million dollars in a car?

False analogy. Would you leave a million dollars in a day care center?
40 posted on 03/12/2008 1:37:45 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Southerngl

This is just another stupid law. If the child died then prosecute for negligence, manslaughter, or whatever. If we had a law for every stupid thing people do, every person would be in jail. The loss of a child is probably the highest price to pay.


41 posted on 03/12/2008 1:38:36 PM PDT by vets son
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It wasn’t even a time when the heat could cook the child in minutes. Go figure...all the parents who’s children die in hot cars that are getting less than a slap on the wrist!


42 posted on 03/12/2008 1:53:46 PM PDT by trussell
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I got it form the Struttmans.


43 posted on 03/12/2008 1:54:10 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Southerngl

Cops are idiots... I have almost no respect for them any more. Not only the asshats who pull a lady in for something like this, but the others as well for not walking up to these clowns and telling them they are assholes...

Maybe I’ll see a legitimate rebellion in my days left...


44 posted on 03/12/2008 1:57:40 PM PDT by sit-rep
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To: massgopguy

grow up...


45 posted on 03/12/2008 1:58:30 PM PDT by sit-rep
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To: massgopguy

Would you transport a million dollars in a car?


46 posted on 03/12/2008 2:00:55 PM PDT by HundredDollars
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To: Southerngl

This is insane. All officials involved in this travesty should be arrested, and have all their assets seized.


47 posted on 03/12/2008 2:05:42 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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>>I heard her attorney on WLSAM. I think they’re going to bore the officer another poopchute.<<

And wal-mart, I suspect.


48 posted on 03/12/2008 2:06:42 PM PDT by RobRoy (I'm confused. I mean, I THINK I am, but I'm not sure. But I could be wrong about that.)
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To: Rio

Absolutely 100% Not Guilty!


49 posted on 03/12/2008 2:07:06 PM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: Rio

Not guilty.


50 posted on 03/12/2008 2:07:48 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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