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Gas Prices Jump, Oil Hits $110
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Posted on 03/12/2008 1:19:03 PM PDT by maquiladora

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To: Revel

“This is why oil should not be traded in the markets. That practice should end.”

Both parties want it to remain it appears. All political interest in improving our energy lives has been circumvented into “bio” fuels, carbon credits and cap and trade. Clinton, McCain, Obama all on board with the financial houses backing Cap and Trade.

Outlook: gloomy.


21 posted on 03/12/2008 1:43:44 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: tanuki
Why not oil to oil. We are dancing around the FACT that oil IS plentiful. Hell, China is drilling off of the coast of FLORIDA, while the US has one finger in it's nose and the other in it's @$$ and is playing switch.

Shall we all wait for solar powered cars while oil is EVERWHERE? Where is it written that the Saudi’s have the sole source for the earth's oil reserves? Sheeesh!!!

Sorry....it's not you, but why do we have to convert coal to oil, while there is oil that is already available, local oil....?

22 posted on 03/12/2008 1:45:04 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: henkster; All

Democrats/liberals/Socialists stopped more than 130 of the 150 coal power plants that were supposed to come online from being built.Do the math. That is why we have an energy crises. This causes electricity and heating oil(Oil) to rise through the roof. The U.S. has 600 years worth of cheap coal, more than any other country. You think there is a coincidence that liberals say coal pollutes and causes global warming?

“In 2007, proposals for 59 coal plants were scrapped in 24 states, either by state regulators concerned about the effects of carbon-dioxide emissions or by power companies worried about the future costs of pollution, according to data from the Sierra Club.

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Coal is now burned in more than 600 plants to generate 49 percent of the country’s current electricity, ...

Although 150 new coal-fired power plants were proposed between 2000 and 2006, the bulk of those projects has been delayed or canceled, ...”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1984439/posts?page=37#37


23 posted on 03/12/2008 1:45:40 PM PDT by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: Shermy

Outlook, VERY GLOOMY.


24 posted on 03/12/2008 1:45:48 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: RightWhale

I think he means the option/commodity markets.

Not the spot market, where actual users, e.g., refiners, buy the oil. Hedge funds can’t park money there.


25 posted on 03/12/2008 1:46:01 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

And WHY is the dollar so low?

IT couldn’t be because we don’t make anything anymore and all the stuff we buy is made overseas, could it?

Another catastrophe presided over by Bush et al, although to be fair it started under Clinton and maybe even under Bush’s Daddy.

And the commodity dealers, like water salesmen, or better yet, oasis owners in a desert, are squeezing what’s left of the American economy, and, in the process, American citizens.

Meanwhile we continue to por millions into Iraq and Africa, and give away defense contracts to European companies we are suing.

Somthing is not quite right here.


26 posted on 03/12/2008 1:46:37 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: RockinRight
It is about time we started charging the rulers of the middle east that produce oil protection fees. We are the only reason they are still in power or they would have been removed from power a long time ago. The house of Saud or “fraud” owes us probably a few hundred billion and it is time we sent them the bill for services provided by our troops. Give them a choice to pump more oil or pay the fees. End of game. Pay up, pump up or good bye baby it's a “Youngstown Tune-up” city.
27 posted on 03/12/2008 1:47:25 PM PDT by Plumberman27
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To: rurgan

“Liberals/democrats/socialists have stopped most coal power plants, refineries, etc. from being built”

All very true.

But WHY isn’t Bush using the Bully pulpit to get public support for all the above? Now, would seem to be the most opportune time.

I think its because he and his buddies in the oil business are doing so well with these inflated prices that there is no incentive to work to eliminate them.


28 posted on 03/12/2008 1:48:24 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Shermy

Until NYMEX began trading oil futures contracts about 1983 it was spot markets, and spot markets are the most unstable pricing situation there is. NYMEX was known as Butter, Cheese, and Eggs at the time and was about to go out of business due to an economic accident.


29 posted on 03/12/2008 1:49:51 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: headstamp 2

I wonder if they are figuring that if their bets fall through, someone will bail them out like they are the banks.


30 posted on 03/12/2008 1:50:40 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ZULU

Bingo, no incentive and huge profits, for doing what, the usual. Drill Damit!


31 posted on 03/12/2008 1:50:57 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Doe Eyes
Republicans didn't have a filibuster proof Congress. If you recall Bush and Congress tried to get drilling in ANWR passed and Democrats filibustered and stopped this. So did you fall for the liberal media and Michael Savage spin or are you a Democrat.

Notice that the Democrats in congress can't get many of their proposals passed either.

32 posted on 03/12/2008 1:51:12 PM PDT by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: Plumberman27

Russia would be pleased to provide ‘security’ in the region. For free.


33 posted on 03/12/2008 1:51:13 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: ZULU

Lets not forget printing and distributing the green toilet paper to banks every other month.


34 posted on 03/12/2008 1:54:57 PM PDT by Crazieman (Vaya van Juan McCain en 2008)
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To: maquiladora
The money I spend on gas, I don't spend on discretionary spending. Our economy is based on discretionary spending. And with prices skyrocketing and the dollar dropping, I'm saving every remaining cent just in case it goes up more. I assume others are like me. Many others like me ending discretionary spending because of high energy costs and fear of higher energy costs equals a serious recession.

High energy costs are not good for our nation.
35 posted on 03/12/2008 1:55:21 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio
High energy costs are not good for our nation.

Bad for America.

Good for financing Jihad.

36 posted on 03/12/2008 1:58:06 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: ZULU

I think that the liberal mainstream media controls everything as they are in everyones living room telling them what is “news” and what is the “truth” which is in reality isjust Marxist propaganda from the liberal media.

Bush has to kow tow to the media or they won’t give him air time

Republicans didn’t have a filibuster proof Congress. If you recall Bush and Congress tried to get drilling in ANWR passed and Democrats filibustered and stopped this. So did you fall for the liberal media and Michael Savage spin or are you a Democrat.

The liberal media won the Drilling in ANWR propganda war and I don’t think any other indivdiual can win a propganda war with the liberal media since they have thousands of media outlets on practically all TV stations, on cable , on radio, practically all newspapers, the internet etc.


37 posted on 03/12/2008 1:58:47 PM PDT by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: gathersnomoss

I hear you. In a sane world, there would be oil derricks springing up on the Santa Barbara coast and the Rockies. Not to mention a booming industry in constructing oil refineries. Instead, we’re retiring the folks here who could do these things and waiting ‘til the infrastructure breaks down. Nuts.


38 posted on 03/12/2008 2:02:35 PM PDT by tanuki (u)
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To: never4get
Wow, the price for barrel just went up...the gas already in the gas tanks at stations just went up.

If you are the dweeb with a couple gas stations barely making the payments on your house trailer, you got to consider, when pricing your gas for sale, how much it's gonna cost you to refill those tanks when they're empty (NOT how much it cost you to fill them in the first place.) You can't store that stuff in a can behind the refrigerator; you gotta buy it when there's a place to put it (mostly empty ground storage tank) and you pay the price the guy with the truck charges you when it's done.

Meanwhile, you and your neighbors in the business are all in a mad scramble, trying to guess where to set the price so as not to go broke because the customers all go across the street (too high) and at the same time not to go broke because the gas costs slightly more per gallon than you're charging and you didn't figure it out until you were broke anyway (too low.)

Meanwhile, everybody's mad at you because the price jumped, but nobody notices the real culprits.

39 posted on 03/12/2008 2:02:47 PM PDT by thulldud (Insanity: Electing John McCain again and expecting a different result.)
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To: headstamp 2

The crash is going to be spectacular. Personally, I plan on retiring on the backs of suckers who think oil is really worth $100+/bbl.


40 posted on 03/12/2008 2:05:30 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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