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2 Charged In UNC Student Leader Slaying
AT&T Net ^ | 3-12-2008 | ERIN GARTNER and MIKE BAKER

Posted on 03/12/2008 3:42:41 PM PDT by blam

2 Charged in UNC Student Leader Slaying

Published: 3/12/08, 6:05 PM EDT
By ERIN GARTNER and MIKE BAKER

HILLSBOROUGH, N.C. (AP) - Two suspects were charged Wednesday with first-degree murder in the killing of the University of North Carolina's student body president. Demario James Atwater, 21, of Durham, was arrested and ordered held without bond. Police said they are still searching for the second suspect, 17-year-old Lawrence Alvin Lovett Jr.

Chapel Hill Police Chief Brian Curran declined to say whether Lovett was the subject of an intense police standoff Wednesday afternoon in nearby Durham. City Councilman Eugene Brown said it appears the standoff was resolved without an arrest.

Police in Durham refused to comment, referring all questions about the standoff to police in Chapel Hill.

Shackled at the ankle and waist and with a public defender at his side, Atwater whispered "yes" when asked whether he understood the charge against him. His next court appearance was scheduled for March 24.

"I hope the arrest can ease the minds of some in the community," District Attorney Jim Woodall said.

Messages left with the Orange County public defenders office were not returned Wednesday.

Curran would not say which of the suspects shot and killed Eve Carson, 22, of Athens, Ga., who was found a week ago lying on a street about a mile from campus. The biology and political science major had been shot several times, including once in the right temple.

In the day after Carson's death, police focused their investigation on a suspect pictured in several surveillance photos using her ATM card.

The Board of Trustees at North Carolina offered a $25,000 reward for information leading to an arrest in her death, and police received hundreds of tips after the first two photos were released over the weekend.

Carson was a prestigious Morehead-Cain scholar at North Carolina, where she was remembered by thousands who gathered Thursday at two campus memorial services. Hundreds of mourners filled the First United Methodist Church in Athens on Sunday at a memorial service in her hometown.

The university said Wednesday a third memorial service will be held next week at the campus basketball arena.

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Associated Press writer Erin Gartner reported from Chapel Hill.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carson; eve; evecarson; slaying; student; unc
The POS scum of the earth lives while one bright star is dead.

This world is upside down!!

1 posted on 03/12/2008 3:42:42 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Hook the scum up to old smokie and let it rip.


2 posted on 03/12/2008 3:43:52 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Obama: NOT the next JFK. He is the NEXT STALIN!!!! Wake up America!!!)
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To: blam

Hate crime.


3 posted on 03/12/2008 3:44:22 PM PDT by roses of sharon (Who will be McCain's maverick?)
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To: blam

Does North Carolina have the death penalty?


4 posted on 03/12/2008 3:44:34 PM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: FrdmLvr

Technically, yes. But a google of the name “Kristin Lodge-Miller” reveals what happens when an angry black man shoots an innocent white woman in Chapel Hill.

We’ll be lucky to get those guys in jail for 2nd degree murder.


5 posted on 03/12/2008 3:46:13 PM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: FrdmLvr

Sure as hell does, though it’s not used terribly often. We’ve executed about four to five a year in recent years.


6 posted on 03/12/2008 3:46:19 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: blam

i will never understand how some depts can still front-cuff their perps. the hands are right at gun level! rear cuff people! jeez!


7 posted on 03/12/2008 3:47:14 PM PDT by thefactor (the innocent shall not suffer nor the guilty go free...)
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To: FrdmLvr
Does North Carolina have the death penalty?

lethal injection

8 posted on 03/12/2008 3:47:38 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: RetiredArmy

Wood chipper.


9 posted on 03/12/2008 3:47:43 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: FrdmLvr

If so, it should be applied to the judge who gave a suspended sentence to this perp the last time around.


10 posted on 03/12/2008 3:49:00 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: FrdmLvr

Yes and not afraid to use it. Trust me, he will see some amperage when his due process runs out.


11 posted on 03/12/2008 3:49:06 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? ((Ok, Im the official Pit Bull Defender/If you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.)
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To: BunnySlippers

With very slow, dull blades.


12 posted on 03/12/2008 3:51:44 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: When do we get liberated?

Maybe yes, maybe no.

He’s from Durham. Doesn’t get any worse than that.


13 posted on 03/12/2008 3:52:06 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: thefactor

Must be for the “money” shot as they do the perp walk.


14 posted on 03/12/2008 3:54:20 PM PDT by doodad
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To: blam

Any “men” left in this country? They would take care of this, real quick.


15 posted on 03/12/2008 3:55:25 PM PDT by hkp123
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To: kingattax; FrdmLvr
I forgot to mention that executions are on hold here (as they probably are in most states) pending a decision in the Baze v. Rees case before the US Supreme Court.

That's the case where the Supreme Court will decide whether lethal injection as it's practiced in most states constitutes cruel and unusual punishment under the 8th Amendment. The Court will probably rule that it isn't.
16 posted on 03/12/2008 3:55:30 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: blam

Two less Democrat voters to go to the polls. Good riddance.


17 posted on 03/12/2008 3:55:42 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: blam

I saw this cocky piece of crap being taken to the police station and all I could think of was that lovely young girl and how her parents will suffer for the rest of their lives. My heart goes out to her family.


18 posted on 03/12/2008 3:59:20 PM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: DogBarkTree

You are, of course, presuming these rejects are smart enough to know how to pull an election lever...


19 posted on 03/12/2008 4:02:28 PM PDT by FatherFig1o155 (Politicians, like underwear, should be changed often, and for the same reasons)
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To: doodad

i was thinking of starting a vanity asking freepers how they would dispose of this piece of garbage. personally, i’d start at the ends and just keep cutting 1/4 inch until i got to the creamy middle.


20 posted on 03/12/2008 4:04:25 PM PDT by thefactor (the innocent shall not suffer nor the guilty go free...)
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To: blam

Condolences to Eve Carson’s family and friends.


21 posted on 03/12/2008 4:06:24 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: thefactor

You have no idea how scared I am of my only daughter starting college next year.


22 posted on 03/12/2008 4:09:48 PM PDT by doodad
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To: RetiredArmy
Hook the scum up to old smokie and let it rip.

To fast!

23 posted on 03/12/2008 4:14:52 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: thefactor

I think he has a waist chain and ankle irons with a connecting chain between them...


24 posted on 03/12/2008 4:23:06 PM PDT by rolling_stone (same)
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To: The Pack Knight

NC is electric chair, I believe


25 posted on 03/12/2008 4:43:51 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? ((Ok, Im the official Pit Bull Defender/If you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.)
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To: When do we get liberated?

No, we’re lethal injection. We haven’t used the electric chair since 1938.


26 posted on 03/12/2008 4:47:31 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: blam

I’d love to strap him in the chair and fry him crispy as a piece of bacon!


27 posted on 03/12/2008 4:56:47 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Is Obama the AntiChrist? Otherwise, why are so many so mesmerized?)
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To: FrdmLvr

Boy do they have the death penalty!


28 posted on 03/12/2008 5:01:09 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: krb
We had a case down the river about 10 years ago. A terminally ill White woman was beaten and died of her injuries. Their defense was that the woman's 3 yr old son had provoked them beyond reason by supposedly uttering the dreaded "n word" that he heard them using.

The lesser perps got about a year and the "big man" pled to voluntary manslaughter and got 5 yrs. The prosecutor said that she was dying anyway so no big deal

In another case 14 month old Ryan Hacke was shot in the head in his Mother's car while the perp, out on bond for a home invasion and rape, was supposedly shooting at rival gang members. The jury bought the act and convicted him of involuntary manslaughter. He got 7 yrs.

Pittsburgh PA is a mecca for black on White violence yet you are called a racist if you notice.

29 posted on 03/12/2008 5:03:39 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: thefactor

I’d pull a brave heart on em... Just walk up, looking him in the eye, slice his throat and watch the life run out of his eyes...


30 posted on 03/12/2008 5:09:52 PM PDT by sit-rep
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To: hkp123

“Any men left in this country? They would take care of this, real quick.”

The courts of this country have made it so that vigilante justice is usually prosecuted heavier than the original crime. These guys will plea out, and maybe get 2nd degree murder charges. I’m sure we’ll hear about how the grew up in a “rough” part of Durham, and that “poverty” influenced their decisions.

Of course if I, as a white, educated, military member felt upset about that, I’m a racist. And if I do the justice that SHOULD be done, not only am I getting first degree murder but I’m committing a “hate crime” as well.

BTW, as someone who grew up in North Carolina, I can tell you this. I would not go anywhere within driving distance of the People’s Republic of Chapel Hill. There are more communists there than the Kremlin. And neighboring Durham is a cesspool of humanity, which I can guarantee is where these thugs came from. And if you call them thugs, the Commies at Chapel Hill will let you know how you are an ignorant, capitalist, racist pig.

No thanks, I’ll take my alma mater, UNC Charlotte.


31 posted on 03/12/2008 5:11:56 PM PDT by The Black Knight (I don't care who's running this year, I'm voting for Reagan...)
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To: The Black Knight
As soon as I saw the picture at the ATM, I knew these were Durham gangbangers who drove up to Chapel Hill for some easy pickings.

This was almost certainly an initiation for the 17-year-old. Dollars to doughnuts he's the trigger man.

I've lived in and around Raleigh for over ten years, but I can count on two hands the number of times I've been to Durham or Chapel Hill, both of which are less than 30 minutes away. The only time I go to Durham is for baseball, and I've been to Chapel Hill twice.
32 posted on 03/12/2008 5:19:41 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: krb

I just googled her and found “the charges were reduced to second degree murder. Why? Because the killer was provoked by his victim’s attempt to defend herself.”

First he assaulted her. She pepper-sprayed him in defense and then he shot her 5 times. Unbelievable!

http://friendsofdebbie.blogspot.com/2007/09/remembering-kristin-lodge-miller.html


33 posted on 03/12/2008 5:35:44 PM PDT by AUsome Joy (that)
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To: All

You put this case next to the one in LA of the high school football star killed 100+ feet from his front door by a gang-banger, and it clearly shows our system of justice needs work.

Jailing the slime, only to have them emerge from behind those evil walls worse than they went in, is an insult to civilization.

Take a life, lose yours.


34 posted on 03/12/2008 5:48:07 PM PDT by BigBadVoodooDaddy
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To: RetiredArmy

Would that be “Old Sparky”?


35 posted on 03/12/2008 6:09:29 PM PDT by Banjoguy (The stench that surrounds us, emanates from Washington, D.C.)
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To: AUsome Joy; Eagles6; All
Because the killer was provoked by his victim’s attempt to defend herself.”

OMG, no, that is a bald-faced lie. That blog you found doesn't EVEN come CLOSE to describing the judicial atrocity that occurred in that case.

The REAL story is that the jury was made of 8 white people and 4 black people, and the 4 black people held out for 2nd degree for the simple reason that "white people don't understand black rage."

I am not making this up. I was working at IBM at the time, and one of the black jurors worked in the same test lab where I worked and was interviewed in the local paper, as well as one of the white jurors who spelled it out.

Basically, the white jurors were led to believe by the judge that there was a chance that the guy could actually be set free if they didn't convict of something, and the 8 white people eventually caved into the "black rage justifies this sort of thing" being held out for by the black members.

The blog you cite has completely glossed over the real story there.

36 posted on 03/12/2008 6:24:03 PM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: The Pack Knight

I hope there will be some justice but I wouldn’t count on it. If they don’t get sentence to death I hope Nancy Grace and the rest of the media react with the same coverage they are giving the story now.

I am almost surprised this is still a big national story. I thought it wasn’t “PC” enough. Though I have to wonder how they decide what’s safe to air and what isn’t. If you ask me the rape/killings of that college couple in Knoxville was even worse than this Carson case, but to my knowledge that got zero coverage at the time from the cable nets, and the national media in general.


37 posted on 03/12/2008 6:24:37 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: krb

I don’t doubt your story at all.


38 posted on 03/12/2008 9:39:19 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: blam
This murderous punk - is exactly the stereotype keeping the dreaded “N” word alive and meaningful.....

He's from Durham — the city where the notorious “88” Duke Professors attempted to lynch 3 innocent white boys on the basis of a black whore's false claim of rape..... Calling is a racist crime...

I now wonder if these same “88” racist fools and worse - will see any racist content in the murder of a white girl by this black POS?
Will they call for his castration - as they did the Lacrosse players?
I think not....
That black whore still lives - and has not been charged with any crime....
This white girl is dead - and committed no crime.

Duke University and others have ALREADY paid 10’s millions to the damaged parties — with 10’s of millions still be sought in civil courts....from the city of Durham and more from Duke University...

Where does the family of this young girl go for “justice”...
I'm coming to believe that society, law enforcement, city and state government should be held criminally liable for the fact they have permitted so many criminals to remain on the streets....

The “Justice System's” “compassion” for the criminals has not bode well for the rest of society......

39 posted on 03/13/2008 12:59:57 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: The Pack Knight

We had one incident like this at one of the frats when I was at UNC Charlotte. Two “non-students” (thugs) showed up. Of course, they were loud and provocative. One pulled a gun and threatened one of the brothers who was trying to convince them to leave. Five minutes later, the brother is on the ground with a gunshot wound to the leg, and the perp has about 30 people taking turns standing on him.

These incidents are getting old, and the people coddling these punks are, in my opinion, just as guilty of murder as the gunmen themselves.


40 posted on 03/13/2008 7:02:41 PM PDT by The Black Knight (I don't care who's running this year, I'm voting for Reagan...)
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To: krb

Some of our cities are like third world countries.


41 posted on 03/13/2008 7:10:49 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane; AUsome Joy; Eagles6; All

I have looked high and low for an online version of the newspaper articles we had for this case back in 1993/1994.

I plan on making some time to go to the library to conduct my archival investigation so I can post something that really illustrates how Chapel Hill deals with this stuff.


42 posted on 03/13/2008 7:49:30 PM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: BunnySlippers

Sarlac.


43 posted on 03/13/2008 7:52:35 PM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: krb

It is difficult finding anything on the internet about that case. Thanks for giving a more personal account.


44 posted on 03/13/2008 8:32:20 PM PDT by AUsome Joy (that)
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To: krb

It seems that the internet is failing us this time.


45 posted on 03/13/2008 8:33:53 PM PDT by AUsome Joy (that)
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To: AUsome Joy

Well, it’s not that the internet fails us, per se.

I had no way of even remotely connecting with you back in 1994. Yet now we can seek a meeting of the minds on this topic. I don’t even know where you are. That is a powerful difference.

I can’t fault the New & Observer for not having everything at my fingertips. It’ll do me some good to remember how I was taught as a lad how to do research :-)


46 posted on 03/13/2008 8:38:26 PM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: The Black Knight

Seriously. If you absolutely have to be tried for a capital crime, make sure it’s in front of a Durham or Orange County jury.


47 posted on 03/14/2008 7:23:48 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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