Posted on 03/12/2008 8:52:16 PM PDT by Christopher Schwinger
To the Leaders of the Republican National Committee and the Members of the State Legislature in the state of_________________:
We, the undersigned registered members of the Republican Party in the state of ____________________, hereby protest and reject the current and ongoing results of the 2008 Republican presidential primary selection process on the grounds that the incongruous methods, rules, and provisions set forth by the individual and various state Republican National Committee Leaders, and the members of the various State Legislatures, have failed to provide the members of the Republican Party across the nation with an effective primary election process, thwarted our objective to identify the candidate who is unifying choice of the majority of the members of the party, deprived the Republican Party of faithful representation in the up-coming general election, and has disenfranchised millions of voters in our state and across the nation.
As registered members of the Republican Party, we demand to be provided with an overall effective presidential primary election process regardless of where we live.
We call for a National Republican Primary Election be held in every state, across our nation on the same day before the general election in November.
We ask that the names of every willing candidate originally participating in the 2008 race be included on the ballot.
Am I wrong that most people have given up hopes of McCain not being the nominee? If national security is the most important thing short-term in America, and conservative people recognize that, then why do many conservatives think McCain is a top-notch one on national security when he wants to close Guantanamo? Sounds fishy that the Democrats would love a warmonger--they do because he compromises. Furthermore, why would he think criticism of his Democratic opponents' positions is offensive? He's lambasted Bill Cunningham in Ohio and now Steve King of Iowa, not because they lied or cussed (which he does all the time), but because they might hurt McCain's friendship with Senator Clinton and Senator Obama!
I could never vote for McCain because of his cocky, disrespectful, and bull-headed attitude. If people condemned Gov. Spitzer for his adultery, why do they not do that to McCain? He was a known adulterer long before that NY Times story (http://www.nolanchart.com/article2957.html).
So I urge everyone who wants a chance to send a message to the GOP establishment to take action through www.fairprimary.org and www.opengopconvention.com. There is power in numbers, but people need to have the spirit and hope to continue to take action!
ALL RIGHT NOW!! LETS DO IT !!
“AYR YAH REEDY FOR AH WAR !!??”
Contact list needs to start for this action is short on time but plenty of folks wanting to happen soonest!!
Its time to fight !!
Wondering where the financing of this would come from. Wondering how to get the word out to the millions of “disenfranchised”. Wondering why we would concentrate our next eight months on a Presidential candidate rather than supporting true Conservatives for Congress instead. Wondering much about this idea.
I don’t like being stuck with McPain, but I’d rather concentrate upon gaining a Conservative friendly, an American friendly congress instead. We need concentrate all our funding for that purpose.
Welcome to FR, and goodluckwiththat....
Of course the RINOs who now control the party would spit on you and your idea.
You joined to post that?
Normally a newbie is harassed for posting so quickly. I do like this website, and I’m glad you posted it. This is a good post.
BTTT!
1) Not every state uses the primary system, a lot use the caucus system.
2) What of it? We’re now Democrats - don’t like the results, so let’s do it again and again until we ‘get it right?’
3) Even if we re-ran the election on a national basis, what would change? McCain would still win, while conservatives trip over themselves in a rush to vote for people more liberal than McCain.
When did we start being the party of whiners too? Or are we just going to copy every stupid idea that liberals come up with?
The other website mentioned has some cool stuff, too.
http://www.opengopconvention.com/
I’m up for a delegate revolt.
LOL. I think my first posts had something to do with OJ Simpson. I'd lurked for a couple years but OJ motivated me to sign up. I'd say our new freeper had a better reason than I did!
......without even a kiss.
If the GOP had wanted a “real” conservative they would have voted for one. You sound like the dems crying about MI and FL.
I, for one, am wondering much about the effectiveness of a McCain campaign/fundraising effort. His recent actions poking his finger in the eyes of Cunningham and King really reaffirms for me that this misbegotten candidate of the RNC hasn't gotten any message, still hates Conservatives, and will screw us early and often.
The one thing that does give me hope is a very solid gut feeling that his (and the RNC's) donation plate is gonna contain nothing but a giant sucking sound. It will be glaringly evident, in a few weeks, that this turkey can't fly, that his ability to generate financial support is somewhere close to, or less than Duncan Hunter's ability to attract voters.
I do have a feeling that the RNC will re-evaluate this choice of theirs, and maybe convince him to step aside for the good of the party/country and all other republicans that are facing re-election. If they continue with McCain, voters will stay home in droves.
Great, but I think this has already been filed away in the "ain't gonna happen" folder.
Not the solution this be. Closing the primary process to Republicans registered 90 days would be more effective. Better scheduling, but not all at once, would also help.
Way to make a splash knubi. I’d sign yer little form there but I am not a “registered member of the the Republican Party,” I have no representative government, I am a conservative.
So basically we should just vote again and again until you get the result you want? Because I didn’t like the fact that Clinton won the main event in 1992 and 1996. It would have been awesome if such a revote would have happened back then. And perhaps, we can expand this idea outside of politics... For instance, as a Chicagoan I’d like a redo of the 2003 NLCS and the 2007 Super Bowl. And I’d sure like a chance to redo some of my job interviews over the years. And I regret breaking up with my last boyfriend and cutting off ties with my best friend from high school, so I’d like to redo these decisions as well.
In reality none of these things are ever going to be redone... Just like the primaries aren’t going to be redone because you personally don’t want McCain to be the nominee. McCain won the nomination based on the set of rules agreed upon by all. It was fair and encouraged significant debate.
Really? How many people were involved in this agreement to allow Democrats and Independents to vote in a Republican primary? Do tell!
Wow! That sounds like a great tagline!
Your website is interesting, especially the page that lists the results of the primaries according to "open/closed/semi-closed" status.
So, Schwinger, who is funding your organization?
I didn’t start the website, but I wanted it publicized and thought that’d be as good a reason as any to get started on Free Republic.
For everyone else’s comments, let this email I sent to the GOP executives suffice:
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To whom it may concern,
I’ve always considered myself a Republican, but I am not going to vote for John McCain. I signed a petition for the RNC at fairprimary.org and would like you to thoughtfully consider the objections of people like me. The reason I write you now is that I feel the primaries this year did not reflect the true sentiment of the majority of Republicans. 60% of Republicans were opposed to John McCain, but the media has dictated who is viable. Also, Democrats and “Independents” have often been allowed to vote in our primaries, and Super Tuesday was a farce. It was supposed to make the primaries end half a year before the convention! I concur with swarms of other Republicans that we need to hold primaries again for each state. Before you reject what I just said, let me explain. I say this not because I can’t face the facts, but because I CAN. I know many Republicans have learned the hard way that the media anointed McCain. Few are complaining anymore because they think it has to be that way since he has the “magic number” of delegates. I would like you to consider reforming the system and allowing every state a voice before selecting a nominee. Please don’t ignore your constituents. I’m not alone in feeling this way. We just want to see Republican primaries without cross-voting where there’s minimal media pressure on the people and limited pressure from the polls about who can win the states. The media obsession with that just dissuades people from voting as they see fit.
Thank you for your time and patience.
Sincerely,
Christopher Schwinger
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The media would have a lot less power to say which states are important for “momentum” (poppycock and hogwash!) if the GOP kept each state’s results confidential until all had voted.
Thank you, I agree.
That page shows just how twisted it is to have McCain as the nominee. (grrrrr....)
That page shows just how twisted it is to have McCain as the nominee. (grrrrr....)
Agreed.
Next time they probably will. This was just a ploy to ensure that John Mc Cain was the nominee.
It worked. It got him the nomination. Now they can elect him.
His only chance is for the Democrats to have a civil war among themselves.
I’ve always considered myself a Republican, but I am not going to vote for John McCain. I signed a petition for the RNC at fairprimary.org and would like you to thoughtfully consider the objections of people like me. The reason I write you now is that I feel the primaries this year did not reflect the true sentiment of the majority of Republicans. 60% of Republicans were opposed to John McCain, but the media has dictated who is viable. Also, Democrats and “Independents” have often been allowed to vote in our primaries, and Super Tuesday was a farce. It was supposed to make the primaries end half a year before the convention! I concur with swarms of other Republicans that we need to hold primaries again for each state. Before you reject what I just said, let me explain. I say this not because I can’t face the facts, but because I CAN. I know many Republicans have learned the hard way that the media anointed McCain. Few are complaining anymore because they think it has to be that way since he has the “magic number” of delegates. I would like you to consider reforming the system and allowing every state a voice before selecting a nominee. Please don’t ignore your constituents. I’m not alone in feeling this way. We just want to see Republican primaries without cross-voting where there’s minimal media pressure on the people and limited pressure from the polls about who can win the states. The media obsession with that just dissuades people from voting as they see fit.
Thank you for your time and patience.
Nice job! The GOP/RNC never responds to my emails. Better luck to you.
I think the reason it got started so late (late Feb.) was because Huckabee was still a factor. I wouldn’t call it a pipe dream, though. It’s just that people are too cynical to believe things could be better.
I love it! (re: your new tagline)
My word to describe it is a little longer than ‘cynical’. It’s unrealistic, a little less than 8 months before we vote. Maybe something workable can be put in place for 2012, as McCain is reportedly only going to serve one term.
I’d love it if McCain wasn’t our nominee, but he is, and I will reluctantly vote for him, as per my tagline.
BTW, I was sincere in welcoming you to FR, and I hope you enjoy it here. My skepticism was for your post.
Um, no. You have your nominee. Conservatives would prefer to vote Republican but we are conservatives first and Republicans by necessity (as there isn't a viable option for conservatives.)
But with your nominee, conservatives no longer are welcome in the Republican party. Senator McCain has told us that we don't matter. We will comply with his wishes and stay away in droves.
I would think that Pubbies would welcome a do-over. They seem to want our votes. They're only going to get them with a conservative nominee.
I dont see this happening before Election Day 2008, but I would like to see this in place before 2012.
One National Primary day for all states. I would even go along with a National Primary week, M-F, 10 states a day. At least that way, all candidates on the ballot on Monday will still be in the race for the states voting on Friday.
For this year, I agree. But start now to change the rules for the 2012 primary process.
I did not say I would not welcome a ‘do-over’. The time to do that for this election has passed. Look to what the dims want to do in FL and MI as an example, and this would be on a much larger scale.
I was using the Royal We when I said we have our nominee. I thought I made it clear that my vote for him was a vote against whomever the dims put up. That does not make me not a conservative, a distinction some here love to make.
You, of course, may follow your own path. I’m doing what I think is the right thing to do in voting for our liberal against theirs.
Too late for me to revolt. I already dropped out of the Republican Party.
Oops. I forgot about that, LOL.
The Republican Party offers me absolutely nothing.
I like primaries spread out over time, because it allows folks to take a closer look at candidates they might never have considered. I also like that some candidates drop out as time goes on. How about a primary system where the smallest 10 states vote in February, the next ten smallest in March, and so forth, with the biggest states thus having the benefit of all the campaigning done in the smaller states.
Moreover, I'm not sure what's so evil about a candidate who attracts Inds. and Dems. Electability is kinda important when selecting a candidate.
With respect to primaries, hopefully, some day you will.
I’m sure that you’ll like it when we go back to the smoke filled rooms then.
The biggest problem by far is the open primaries, not the date or the time between the different states.
I don't think enough people are concerned about the small details though.
"Bah, Senate, We want the White House" is too focused.
States do have the right to set the rules for their own primaries, but as we've seen this year, the national party also has the right to penalize states that violate the rules that they've set. The GOP should start penalizing states of their delegates if they have open primaries.
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