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Chaldean archbishop kidnapped in Iraq found dead: church
Yahoo News ^ | March 13, 2008

Posted on 03/13/2008 5:56:58 AM PDT by NYer

A Chaldean Catholic archbishop kidnapped last month in northern Iraq has been found dead, the information service of the Italian Catholic Church said Thursday.

The body of Paulos Faraj Rahho, the archbishop of Mosul, was found near the northern city, the Church said, quoting the auxiliary archbishop of Baghdad, Shlemon Warduni.

"We recovered his body near Mosul," Warduni said, according to the Church's news agency SIR. "The kidnappers had buried him."

Rahho was kidnapped on February 29 in Mosul after a deadly shootout in which three of his companions were killed.

Iraqi forces in Mosul had fanned out to search for Rahho, whose abduction was branded as "atrocious" by Pope Benedict XVI.

Rahho was the latest in a long line of Chaldean clerics to be abducted in Iraq since the US-led invasion in March 2003. Two priests were kidnapped in the city in October, and last June a priest and three deacons were attacked in front of their church.

Iraq's Christians, with the Chaldean sect by far the largest community, were said to number as many as 800,000 before the 2003 invasion.

Associated with the "Crusader" invaders and regarded as well-off, they are now victims of sectarian cleansing, killings and kidnappings at the hands of both Sunni and Shiite Islamists, as well as criminal gangs.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: archbishop; catholic; chaldean; iraq; iraqichristians; kidnapping; mosul
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1 posted on 03/13/2008 5:56:58 AM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

Since 2001, I have been saying that this is a holy war. any doubters now?


2 posted on 03/13/2008 5:58:30 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey McLame, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you a'int fooling any FReepers)
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Bishop Paulos Faraj Rahho
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3 posted on 03/13/2008 5:59:04 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

Amish extremists, no doubt.


4 posted on 03/13/2008 6:00:21 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: NYer

What a shame. Another martyr for the Christian faith. And so many of us remain under the false impression that the age of the Christian martyrs is ancient history.


5 posted on 03/13/2008 6:04:05 AM PDT by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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To: NYer
"A Chaldean Catholic archbishop kidnapped last month in northern Iraq has been found dead, the information service of the Italian Catholic Church said Thursday."

I demand that Islamic leaders publicly, loudly and REPEATEDLY denounce, renounce and CONDEMN the crimes of the Islamist Crusaders. If caught, the sons of pigs should be publicly executed.

Instead, we'll be treated to another whining "Muslims scared" campaign.

6 posted on 03/13/2008 6:04:11 AM PDT by cake_crumb (I will criticize Obama as much and as often as I want.)
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To: cake_crumb

The “Religion of Peace” is not likely to satisfy, but I agree with you. Does anyone have a really sensitive decibel meter for measuring the sound of the Iraqi Muslim Moderate community on this?


7 posted on 03/13/2008 6:06:49 AM PDT by farmer18th (Iraqi Nation Building GWB-Style: "No law that contradicts.. Islam may be established")
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To: farmer18th
Does anyone have a really sensitive decibel meter for measuring the sound of the Iraqi Muslim Moderate community on this?

*crickets chirping*

8 posted on 03/13/2008 6:11:34 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: NYer

The religion of peace. Notice how the article criticized the Chaldean Christians saying that they were well off and associated with the Crusades, as if it were their fault they were kidnapped and murdered. Also the article failed to mention that they were tortured before they were killed and that there has been continual violence against the Chaldean Catholics in Iraq, the Coptic Catholics in Egypt and Christians in Africa such as in Nigeria and Darfur.


9 posted on 03/13/2008 6:11:35 AM PDT by detective
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To: NYer

It sounds as though he was also badly wounded in the shootout, and died soon after. Since he was no longer any use to them for propaganda purposes, they buried him, hoping no one would find him.


10 posted on 03/13/2008 6:13:05 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: detective
Notice how the article criticized the Chaldean Christians saying that they were well off and associated with the Crusades,

Christianity taught them how to prosper and by both Muslim and Secularist Humanist logic, that's a great sin--doing well.

Urban II had it right.
11 posted on 03/13/2008 6:13:36 AM PDT by farmer18th (Iraqi Nation Building GWB-Style: "No law that contradicts.. Islam may be established")
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To: NYer

Crusade!


12 posted on 03/13/2008 6:13:55 AM PDT by fweingart (Obama-Clinton (A real dream team!))
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To: farmer18th
Does anyone have a really sensitive decibel meter for measuring the sound of the Iraqi Muslim Moderate community on this?

"Iraqi forces in Mosul had fanned out to search for Rahho..."

The take all innocent deaths caused by terrorists quite seriously. They hate the terrorists as much as we do.

13 posted on 03/13/2008 6:15:18 AM PDT by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: NYer

My his soul and the souls of the faithful departed, through the Mercy of God, rest in peace.


14 posted on 03/13/2008 6:16:30 AM PDT by pbear8 (The innocent cry out to God)
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To: NYer

Sad news. May his flock be comforted and their faith strengthened. The thugs and terrorists who kidnapped Paulos Faraj Rahho can kill the man, but they cannot kill the message of love and promise that he brought to his church.


15 posted on 03/13/2008 6:18:51 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: NYer

If ever there was a religion based on Sadism it appears ISLAM would fit the bill.

See my tag line.


16 posted on 03/13/2008 6:19:44 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Only infidel blood can quench Muslim thirst-- Abdul-Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri)
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To: NYer

Sad news....prayers for a faithful servant.


17 posted on 03/13/2008 6:21:26 AM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: Allegra
The take all innocent deaths caused by terrorists quite seriously. They hate the terrorists as much as we do.

Sounds like the search was a tad late. Most of the soldiers I know who come back from Iraq express massive hatred for Islam. The only hope for an Iraq that really hates terrorism is an Iraq that hates Islam.
18 posted on 03/13/2008 6:23:21 AM PDT by farmer18th (Iraqi Nation Building GWB-Style: "No law that contradicts.. Islam may be established")
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To: NYer

Yet the liberals will continue to say that Islam is a “religion of peace”, and Christianity is a religion of hatred and intolerance.


19 posted on 03/13/2008 6:23:24 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: NYer

Servant of God Paulos Rahho, pray for us.


20 posted on 03/13/2008 6:27:40 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: farmer18th
Most of the soldiers I know who come back from Iraq express massive hatred for Islam.

I hate Islam, too.

That being said, most of the Iraqis hate all of that extremist stuff, have no desire to have an "Islamic Republic" (they tell me "we don't want to be another Iran") and even the ones who practice (in the minority) don't follow the hatred doctrine.

Those extremists are in the minority, but get the most attention because of their heinous actions.

21 posted on 03/13/2008 6:29:11 AM PDT by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: NYer

I know little about this so somebody help me out. It sounds like from the story that these Christians were living fairly safely and peacefully in Iraq until 2003 (heck, I didn’t even know there were as many as 800,000 Christians in Iraq). But since 2003, it’s been open season on them. Is that really right and if so, why?


22 posted on 03/13/2008 6:29:15 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Allegra

“That being said, most of the Iraqis hate all of that extremist stuff, have no desire to have an “Islamic Republic” (they tell me “we don’t want to be another Iran”) and even the ones who practice (in the minority) don’t follow the hatred doctrine.”

You know that even though you’re over there and know a lot more about it than almost anybody on FR, you’re not going to convince a fair number of Freepers? I’m constantly amazed at the posters who are absolutely convinced that every Muslim in the world is a radical and is under orders to slaughter all non-Muslims.


23 posted on 03/13/2008 6:32:47 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Allegra
Those extremists are in the minority, but get the most attention because of their heinous actions.

You can't separate terrorism from Islam. Our leaders betrayed us in the formulation of the new Iraqi Constititution, with its overt PANDERING to the Imams. If we really wanted to test the Iraqi dedication to western-style civil liberties, we should have put full time security on the Iraqi Christian community, over and above even the new Iraqi cabinet. It is an absolute outrage that we are selling this sham as "nation building" when Chaldean Christians have now LESS freedom than they did before.
24 posted on 03/13/2008 6:35:59 AM PDT by farmer18th (Iraqi Nation Building GWB-Style: "No law that contradicts.. Islam may be established")
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To: Pinkbell
liberals will continue to say that Islam is a “religion of peace”"Islam is a peaceful religion";President Bush said so right after 9/11.
25 posted on 03/13/2008 6:36:00 AM PDT by tommix2
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To: gracesdad
I’m constantly amazed at the posters who are absolutely convinced that every Muslim in the world is a radical and is under orders to slaughter all non-Muslims.

You don't get it. Not even every Communist wanted to slaughter capitalists--but that outcome was effectively in the "holy writ" of Marxism. It's the same with Islam. The average "moderate Muslim" worships at a shrine of hate, even if he allows the "pious" to strap on the suicide packs. I have a good friend who firmly believes his own son was saved by his constant advice, before going to Iraq, "never trust a Muslim."

The only Muslim you can trust, like the only Communist you can trust, is one who forsakes their old faith. Period.
26 posted on 03/13/2008 6:38:44 AM PDT by farmer18th (Iraqi Nation Building GWB-Style: "No law that contradicts.. Islam may be established")
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To: NYer

Let the next Crusade begin.


27 posted on 03/13/2008 6:40:20 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: NYer

btt


28 posted on 03/13/2008 6:41:23 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Allegra

Oh well, you see what I mean by the other comments that followed yours.


29 posted on 03/13/2008 6:42:23 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: gracesdad
Is that really right and if so, why?

Because our "leaders" (leaders I voted for), sold out Christiantity, when the following was written into the new Iraqi Constitution AT THE VERY TOP: "No law that contradicts.. Islam may be established"

The dunder-headed stupidity of people like Condi Rice is very much to blame.
30 posted on 03/13/2008 6:43:47 AM PDT by farmer18th (Iraqi Nation Building GWB-Style: "No law that contradicts.. Islam may be established")
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To: gracesdad
I know little about this so somebody help me out. It sounds like from the story that these Christians were living fairly safely and peacefully in Iraq until 2003 (heck, I didn’t even know there were as many as 800,000 Christians in Iraq). But since 2003, it’s been open season on them. Is that really right and if so, why?

in Iraq, it was the Pax Saddam; he brokered no trouble from anyone in his country so any descent or inter-community violence was quickly quashed. After he was deposed, the Christians became easy targets for Islamic (peace and Love)anti-Christian violence. Since specifically protecting the small and weak Christian communities by us would be viewed as evidence of a crusade rather than a secular war of liberation by both the common Muslim and our Arab masters, our forces have not spent a whole lot of time and effort to protect them as they would any other obvious target of value.

31 posted on 03/13/2008 6:43:54 AM PDT by conservonator (spill czeck is knot my friend)
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To: NYer

I’m so sorry to hear this. Prayers for him, his family and all who loved him.


32 posted on 03/13/2008 6:44:24 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: farmer18th

I certainly don’t “get it” the way you “get it.” Thank goodness.


33 posted on 03/13/2008 6:44:44 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: NYer
"Well done, good and faithful servant."

A great tragedy but the blood of faithful Christians is beautiful in the sight of the Lord. As in every past generation, it will be the fertilizer which causes a wonderful flowering of the Christian religion.

34 posted on 03/13/2008 6:44:58 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: LikeLight
"And so many of us remain under the false impression that the age of the Christian martyrs is ancient history."

Ignored and swept under the rug mainly by media and other Christian haters.
From the beginning of the twentieth century, tens of millions of Christians (up to 100 million by some estimates) have been martyred in the middle east, Asia minor and eastern Europe during the last days of the Ottoman empire and through out Stalins rule. Plus many are killed each year in other places like Africa, Philippines, Malaysia every year by the Mohammedan crusades, which the media remains largely silient about.

35 posted on 03/13/2008 6:45:30 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: NYer

So sad to hear this. May his soul and the souls of the three others murdered rest in peace.


36 posted on 03/13/2008 6:46:23 AM PDT by tob2 (Recovering Democrat)
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Oh well, you see what I mean by the other comments that followed yours.

How many times must Muslim Radicals call for Sharia Law in Merry Old England before you get it? Will they have to put a bag over your daughters' heads before you stop engaging in the phantom of false hope? Down at UC Irvine last week, the Muslims put up a graveyard for the Gaza Dead. I hope you, and the rest of the timid in America, wake up before it's too late.
37 posted on 03/13/2008 6:47:08 AM PDT by farmer18th (Iraqi Nation Building GWB-Style: "No law that contradicts.. Islam may be established")
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To: gracesdad
Oh well, you see what I mean by the other comments that followed yours.

How many times must Muslim Radicals call for Sharia Law in Merry Old England before you get it? Will they have to put a bag over your daughters' heads before you stop engaging in the phantom of false hope? Down at UC Irvine last week, the Muslims put up a graveyard for the Gaza Dead. I hope you, and the rest of the timid in America, wake up before it's too late.
38 posted on 03/13/2008 6:47:50 AM PDT by farmer18th (Iraqi Nation Building GWB-Style: "No law that contradicts.. Islam may be established")
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To: gracesdad
Oh well, you see what I mean by the other comments that followed yours.

How many times must Muslim Radicals call for Sharia Law in Merry Old England before you get it? Will they have to put a bag over your daughters' heads before you stop engaging in the phantom of false hope? Down at UC Irvine last week, the Muslims put up a graveyard for the Gaza Dead. I hope you, and the rest of the timid in America, wake up before it's too late.
39 posted on 03/13/2008 6:49:03 AM PDT by farmer18th (Iraqi Nation Building GWB-Style: "No law that contradicts.. Islam may be established")
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To: gracesdad
Oh well, you see what I mean by the other comments that followed yours.

How many times must Muslim Radicals call for Sharia Law in Merry Old England before you get it? Will they have to put a bag over your daughters' heads before you stop engaging in the phantom of false hope? Down at UC Irvine last week, the Muslims put up a graveyard for the Gaza Dead. I hope you, and the rest of the timid in America, wake up before it's too late.
40 posted on 03/13/2008 6:49:49 AM PDT by farmer18th (Iraqi Nation Building GWB-Style: "No law that contradicts.. Islam may be established")
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Are you over there right now? How big a deal was this in the Iraqi press?

MSM here ignored it.

41 posted on 03/13/2008 6:52:46 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Allegra
"(they tell me "we don't want to be another Iran") and even the ones who practice (in the minority) don't follow the hatred doctrine. Those extremists are in the minority, but get the most attention because of their heinous actions.

There is no other 'doctrine". Islam is Islam. There is only one Koran and one Mohammad. Except for some minor differences between the sects, some different haddith and suras (and they kill each other over them) Islams main message is exactly the same to all Muslims when it comes to Jews, Christians and other "infidels".

42 posted on 03/13/2008 6:56:46 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Agreed, but with respect I think your point would be clearer if you eschewed the strange phrase “Mohammedan crusades”.

They’re not sewing crosses onto their tunics after all. We should just call their actions “Jihad”, which is what they call them.


43 posted on 03/13/2008 6:57:59 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Allegra
"(they tell me "we don't want to be another Iran") and even the ones who practice (in the minority) don't follow the hatred doctrine. Those extremists are in the minority, but get the most attention because of their heinous actions.

There is no other 'doctrine". Islam is Islam. There is only one Koran and one Mohammad. Except for some minor differences between the sects, some different haddith and suras (and they kill each other over them) Islams main message is exactly the same to all Muslims when it comes to Jews, Christians and other "infidels".

44 posted on 03/13/2008 6:58:16 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: NYer

So sad to hear this. May his soul and the souls of the three others murdered rest in peace.


45 posted on 03/13/2008 7:02:11 AM PDT by tob2 (Recovering Democrat)
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To: Allegra
Are you over there right now? How big a deal was this in the Iraqi press?

MSM here ignored it.

46 posted on 03/13/2008 7:03:20 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Nathan Zachary; farmer18th
I call it as I see it. I report; you decide.

But I really don't know as much as y'all do...I don't watch the news very much.

47 posted on 03/13/2008 7:04:11 AM PDT by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Are you over there right now?

Yep.

How big a deal was this in the Iraqi press?

I asked one of our interpreters that just now. He said they've been following the story all along and they have reported his death.

We also get translated news from various Iraqi print media so that we can follow what they're saying and they've given this pretty objective coverage.

48 posted on 03/13/2008 7:06:47 AM PDT by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: NYer

My his soul and the souls of the faithful departed, through the Mercy of God, rest in peace.


49 posted on 03/13/2008 7:07:06 AM PDT by Judith Anne (I have no idea what to put here. Not a clue.)
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To: farmer18th
"Does anyone have a really sensitive decibel meter for measuring the sound of the Iraqi Muslim Moderate community on this?"

Hah. Probably not. I'd like "moderate" Muslims worldwide to grow a collective pair and present a united front in condemning this atrocity. That's probably too much to expect from a group that thinks of their big guns as replacement penises.

50 posted on 03/13/2008 7:08:26 AM PDT by cake_crumb (I will criticize Obama as much and as often as I want.)
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