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May Day march creates dilemma for Hispanics
Globe Gazette ^ | Mar. 8, 2008 | EMILY C. RUIZ, Hispanic Link

Posted on 03/13/2008 8:23:18 AM PDT by AuntB

Pro-immigrant groups across the country are preparing to stage a series of marches May 1, pressing the White House and the Homeland Security Department to halt immigration raids and move forward on comprehensive immigration reform.

“Change is in the air,” Juan Jose Gutierrez, director of the Los Angeles-based Latino Movement USA, promises.

This year marks the third grass-roots-organized May Day event with two unique factors:

— The marches are being guided by a national coordinating committee — The First Parliament of Mexican Migrant Leaders Living in the U.S.A.

— This is the first time that the marches will be held during a presidential election year.

Pro-immigrant groups from throughout the United States met in Mexico City in November to form the First Parliament of Mexican Migrant Leaders Living in the U.S.A. Attracting minimal press attention, they formed the first national coordinating committee for the May Day marches. The initiating body consists of 46 members representing 23 states.

“The idea is that every single state and territory in the Union where we have Latinos living and working should have representation,” says Gutierrez.

National political analysts have been in open agreement for months that the outcome of the 2008 presidential election will depend heavily on the Latino and immigrant vote.

Where the experts part ways is in assessing the impact national demonstrations will have on other voters. Even among Latinos, opinions range widely.

National Council of La Raza President Janet Murguia handles the subject with cautious concern.

“Marches visually demonstrate to each of us that we are not alone, but this year there is only one march that will truly empower our community and demonstrate our clout. Our next march must be to the voting booth this November.”

Elena Rios, president of the National Hispanic Medical Association, counters, “If the marches are anything like they have been in the last few years, where more of our community are showing their pride and commitment to their fellow Latinos, whether they’re documented or not, I think it’s fantastic. I hope it gets media attention — and more than just Univision and Telemundo. I hope we get on CNN and mainstream English media talking about the importance of the Latino vote in this election year. It will have an impact.”

Chicago Sun-Times columnist Esther Cepeda has doubts: “The marches have become unproductive. They cause a yawn among news editors and reporters and create a backlash from anti-Hispanic forces. I don’t think the mass demonstrations get people who otherwise aren’t energized about the upcoming presidential elections to go out and get registered to vote. Is there even enough time left? There certainly isn’t to get citizenship.”

Gutierrez bristles at those who insist that immigration reform can’t happen in an election year.

“They say everyone should wait until sometime after the November elections. I disagree. Nothing can hurt the pro-immigration-rights movement more than doing nothing.”

He offers as evidence: “Never before have the candidates had to deal with the issue of immigration in a very direct way.”

Jose Garza of Dallas, executive director of the League of United Latin American Citizens’ National Housing Commission, notes, “We need to take whatever action is necessary to get this Congress, the future Congress and the future president to really deal with the issues of the immigrant worker. What we are asking for is fairness and equity. When it’s time to mobilize, we can do it correctly.”

The turnout of marchers has decreased nationally since 2.5 million participated in 2006.

Gutierrez blames “the lack of nerve on the part of significant members of the Spanish-speaking media who have helped persuade the community not to continue to participate in the mobilization.”

But, he contends, “that slogan, ‘Hoy marchamos, manana votamos’ — ‘Today we march, tomorrow we vote’ — has crystallized the movement. People are beginning to feel their power, both when we take to the streets and when we go to the ballot box.”

— Emily C. Ruiz is a reporter with Hispanic Link News Service in Washington. E-mail Emily@hispaniclink.org.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; cw; cw2; illegalentrants; immigration; mayday; protest
"“The idea is that every single state and territory in the Union where we have Latinos living and working should have representation,” says Gutierrez."

U.S. Citizens don't have representation. Shut up!

1 posted on 03/13/2008 8:23:19 AM PDT by AuntB
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To: AuntB

It is fitting that they march on May Day. Most of these illegals bring with them the infection of socialism and communism. The idea that these people will ever vote republican if they get citizenship is bogus.
They all have the attitude that they should get everything free..health care..pensions..special schooling etc.
They also don’t think they should pay taxes..either evade or earn little reported income.


2 posted on 03/13/2008 8:27:45 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: AuntB

May Day, Communists of the world unite!..................


3 posted on 03/13/2008 8:28:32 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Oldexpat

Damn straight.


4 posted on 03/13/2008 8:29:10 AM PDT by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: AuntB
Pro-immigrant groups from throughout the United States met in Mexico City

Stay there.

5 posted on 03/13/2008 8:29:20 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: AuntB

Great a communist holiday being commemerated in the U.S.

I blame the govt for not getting control over the border.


6 posted on 03/13/2008 8:29:43 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (El Conservo Tribe, tribal name "Avoids Fort Marcy Park". Watching the Rat Fight.)
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To: AuntB
“that slogan, ‘Hoy marchamos, manana votamos’ — ‘Today we march, tomorrow we vote’ —

...is starting an underground war. Which can easily become overt.

Apparently they are just as easily manipulated here as they were in mexico. What a bunch of morons.

7 posted on 03/13/2008 8:30:25 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: AuntB

Will Juan McInsane be the grand marshal?


8 posted on 03/13/2008 8:32:06 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: AuntB
Boy they sure have all the warped leftist jargon down.

“Pro-immigration” for pro-illegals.

“Anti-Hispanic” for pro-legal immigration.

Sheesh.

9 posted on 03/13/2008 8:33:07 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: AuntB

“Change is in the air,”

Yeah the spread of socialism in our country brought on by an influx of 3rd world dregs.


10 posted on 03/13/2008 8:34:26 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: AuntB

Our next big march should be to the voting booth in November...

Pay attention everybody: There is massive vote fraud happening now and into the future unless we work to cleanse the voter rolls in each distruct and demand proper identification for voting.

Get after your local politicians to get your voting rolls cleaned up. Many of them are contaminated with names of people who have moved or have died.


11 posted on 03/13/2008 8:34:43 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

“Pay attention everybody: There is massive vote fraud happening now and into the future unless we work to cleanse the voter rolls in each distruct and demand proper identification for voting.

Get after your local politicians to get your voting rolls cleaned up. Many of them are contaminated with names of people who have moved or have died.”

Bears repeating!


12 posted on 03/13/2008 8:36:18 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: AuntB

Our government better get a handle on this before the people of the US do. If this happens, there will be the kind of trouble they don’t want to see. People here will take this country back to what our founders wanted....how they do it is up to our enemies. Illegals think they have the upper hand......they better watch our people real close.


13 posted on 03/13/2008 8:36:33 AM PDT by RC2
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To: AuntB

If the illegals became legal, they’d have representation.

Do it the right way guys.


14 posted on 03/13/2008 8:39:09 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Oldexpat
illegals bring with them the infection of socialism and communism.

And they bring in all their third-world-country diseases to infect our population.

15 posted on 03/13/2008 8:39:45 AM PDT by cowboyway ("No damn man kills me and lives." -- Nathan Bedford Forrest)
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To: AuntB

“U.S. Citizens don’t have representation?”

Didn’t you mean to say “Only U.S. Citizens have representation.”

And aren’t these “May Day” protests just Communist infiltrated antiwar, anti-American groups???


16 posted on 03/13/2008 8:40:18 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: AuntB

I’m pro-immigrant but I’m anti-illegal.

Be a legal immigrant and I’ll support you.

Be an illegal, and I’ll support deporting you.


17 posted on 03/13/2008 8:40:33 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: TLI

If this represents a brain drain on Mexico, they’re in deeper doo-doo than I realized, and maybe THEY realize.


18 posted on 03/13/2008 8:41:44 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: AuntB
"Our next march must be to the voting booth this November.”

Yeah, even if they are not citivens!

19 posted on 03/13/2008 8:42:09 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: bcsco; indcons; Clintonfatigued

ping


20 posted on 03/13/2008 8:43:51 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RC2

This isn’t their country and they cannot make it that just by walking in and squatting, like they do in their own country.


21 posted on 03/13/2008 8:45:03 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RC2

I agree with you in spirit, but I think the majority won’t do a damn thing about it as long as American Idol is on.

Hard to say how many true patriots are left who have the testicular fortitude to suffer if necessary for the sake of the Republic.


22 posted on 03/13/2008 8:46:05 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (For True Reform - Josiah / Hilkiah '08!)
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To: King of Florida
Will Juan McInsane be the grand marshal?

nope. Just passing out the voter registration cards.

23 posted on 03/13/2008 8:47:41 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: AuntB

Once they are together in their little protest groups, throw a net around them, and drag them back accross the border.


24 posted on 03/13/2008 8:48:52 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: AuntB
National Council of La Raza President Janet Murguia “Marches visually demonstrate to each of us that we are not alone, but this year there is only one march that will truly empower our community and demonstrate our clout.” “….where more of our community are showing their pride and commitment to their fellow Latinos…”

Perhaps Michelle Obama will join Murguia, neither embrace their American roots; both are bitter shrews who are crippling untold thousands of younger people who would love to love their country. It would be grand to have spokesmen who not only try to lift up those less fortunate but to give them pride in their country. (One who knew how precious being an American is)

25 posted on 03/13/2008 8:50:58 AM PDT by yoe ( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE MONSTER!!!)
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To: kellynla

No. I said exactly what I meant. Who represents us? John McCain? Obama? Hillary? Who? We the ‘people’ certainly didn’t pick them.


26 posted on 03/13/2008 8:55:34 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

Hard to say how many true patriots are left who have the testicular fortitude to suffer if necessary for the sake of the Republic.

Political Correctness has ruined this country. I remember it starting around the middle 70’s. It has taken a hold on this country so that there is almost a total absence of any testicular fortitude left.


27 posted on 03/13/2008 8:57:08 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: RC2
I was late to work 2 years ago because I got stuck behind one of these illegal immigrant clusterf*cks. They were marching right down the middle of the main drag in town with mexican flags in hand. I'm not a violent person but I did have visions of rapid acceleration.

(note to self:buy Hummer)

28 posted on 03/13/2008 9:09:46 AM PDT by yooling
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To: yoe
To All, try this.
(patriot)
29 posted on 03/13/2008 9:12:43 AM PDT by yoe ( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE MONSTER!!!)
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To: AuntB

“Dilemma”: how far can we push this nonsense before the gringos start deporting us?


30 posted on 03/13/2008 9:14:36 AM PDT by tumblindice (Our national roadhouse needs a Dalton.)
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To: metmom

Has anyone ever found out just how long it takes for someone from ,say, Oaxaca,Mexico to come over here going through legal channels?
Someone told me the time frame averages twelve years.If so,then its not realistic to think that they will come here legally,although I agree they SHOULD go through proper procedures.
Can anyone claify the time frame?


31 posted on 03/13/2008 9:15:58 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: AuntB

Oh, okay...
Now I understand.

“We the ‘people’ certainly didn’t pick them.”
But the ‘people’ elected them to office. Maybe not your ‘people’ or mine but they did get a majority of somebody’s ‘people’ LOL

Conservatives just need to get busy and start running for public office on the local & state levels. And we must support them if we are ever going to turn this mess around!


32 posted on 03/13/2008 9:23:45 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Oldexpat
Socialist Worker: The Fight for immigrant rights
33 posted on 03/13/2008 9:33:19 AM PDT by sandyeggo
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To: AuntB

"Hail the Queen of The May!"
34 posted on 03/13/2008 9:38:09 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Hard to say how many true patriots are left who have the testicular fortitude to suffer if necessary for the sake of the Republic.

Sign me up and send all arsenal donations directly to PO Box ...

35 posted on 03/13/2008 9:55:59 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: AuntB
The marches are being guided by a national coordinating committee — The First Parliament of Mexican Migrant Leaders Living in the U.S.A

Don't know what to say to that without being banned

36 posted on 03/13/2008 9:57:45 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 9-11-01?)
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To: AuntB
Pro-immigrant groups from throughout the United States met in Mexico City...

That just about says it all. These are not "pro-immigrant groups", they are groups planning an invasion of the US.

Illegal aliens are not "immigrants" they are alien invaders.

37 posted on 03/13/2008 10:24:00 AM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: AuntB

Aunt B,

There they go again...

Calling the illegal aliens and their enablers, “pro-immigration”

The illegal aliens are anti-immigration ...

You and the rest of us who dont want illegal aliens invading our sovreign country, receiving wholesale AMNESTY, and want them deported and the laws enforced, are the ones who are pro-immigration...


38 posted on 03/13/2008 10:36:32 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: AuntB

Pro-immigrant groups across the country are preparing to stage a series of marches May 1,
______________________________________________

Well, I wont be “marching” but this pro-immigration activist will be standing in front of our local courthouse with a sign just like I did all day last year on May 1st...

ILLEGAL ALIENS GO HOME

TAKE YOUR ANCHOR BABIES

(See I’m not into separating families)

:)


39 posted on 03/13/2008 10:42:57 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: AuntB

The only thing that will stop this nonsense is if Americans are out to meet these marches in force. Both the politicians and the police would freak, of course, because that would be an ideal circumstance for severe rioting, but that is the ONLY way the point will be made. Unless we do that, the illegals will eventually get their way. And yes, they are engaged in a full scale invasion. The sad part is that they are well on their way to taking this country over without firing a shot.


40 posted on 03/13/2008 11:30:20 AM PDT by fr_freak (So foul a sky clears not without a storm)
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To: metmom

Thanks for the ping, metmom. What’s happening in AZ and OK should happen elsewhere.


41 posted on 03/13/2008 11:48:14 AM PDT by indcons
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To: Tennessee Nana

Thank you for showing up last year, Nana. We need a few million like you.


42 posted on 03/13/2008 12:29:24 PM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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