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Afghanistan comes full circle as NATO seeks Russian help
Esprit de Corps ^ | March 13, 2008 | Scott Taylor

Posted on 03/13/2008 7:11:19 PM PDT by Bokababe

One of the most ironic twists to the ongoing mission in Afghanistan emerged from the NATO meetings held in Brussels last week. With member countries either reluctant or unable to add military resources, NATO is now seeking assistance from Russia, its erstwhile Cold War enemy and one-time "evil occupier" of Afghanistan. In fact, the irony is so thick that we should first roll back decades' worth of propaganda and start at the very beginning.

NATO was formed in 1949 as a collective self-defence alliance to prevent any encroachment of the Soviet Union into Western Europe. The Soviets responded to this by creating their own defensive coalition of Communist countries (the Warsaw Pact) to protect them from any eastward expansion of NATO's influence. The nuclear arms race was at its zenith and even Europeans, still recovering from the massive destruction and carnage of the Second World War, understood the importance of maintaining large conventional armies. Troops and tanks were regarded as a preferable deterrent to an apocalyptic mushroom cloud.

The impasse that resulted in Europe did not prevent the U.S. and Soviets from waging war by proxy in non-aligned Third World countries around the world. Afghanistan, in fact, became a key battleground for the CIA and the KGB. Since it bordered the Soviet Union's central Asian republics of Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Turkmenistan, the U.S. knew that Moscow could not afford to ignore events in impoverished and underdeveloped Afghanistan.

Throughout the '50s and '60s, Soviet engineers undertook several major infrastructure projects in Afghanistan, including the construction of the Salang tunnel through the Hindu Kush Mountains, which provided the first viable access between the country's northern and southern provinces. A full-scale program was introduced to train Afghan army officers and a large number of economic aid packages were extended to Kabul's Communist government.

The Americans decided things were going a little too smoothly for the Kremlin, so they decided to stir things up a little. By arming and funding Afghan Muslim extremists who were already resisting the social changes, the Americans sought to draw the Soviets into a full-scale military intervention.

By 1979 events had escalated to the point where the instability, lawlessness and flourishing drug trade along their shared border could no longer be ignored by the Kremlin. Following a coup staged by the KGB in Kabul, the newly appointed Afghan Communist president invited Soviet troops to deploy a security assistance force to help him stabilize Afghanistan.

It would have been high-fives all around for the CIA planners watching the Soviet tank columns rolling south through the Salang tunnel. The Russian bear had taken the bait and put his paw squarely on the American trap.

On the surface, the U.S. vehemently denounced the invasion of Afghanistan and in protest they pulled their athletes out of the 1980 Moscow Olympics. Behind the scenes, the U.S. ramped up military aid to the Afghan guerrillas and assisted in bringing in foreign mujahedeen fighters - such as a young Saudi Arabian zealot named Osama bin Laden - to bleed the Soviets white.

The stated objectives of the Soviet Union in Afghanistan were to provide a secure environment, equality for women, a centralized education and medical system, and the training of a self-sufficient Afghan army. While this may sound eerily similar to the current wish list for the NATO coalition in Afghanistan, a friend of mine at the American embassy was quick to point out one fundamental difference: "The (Soviets) were Communists," he emphatically stated, as if that in itself made any further explanation unnecessary.

The U.S. plan worked like a charm and by the time the last of the Russian troops retreated out of Afghanistan in 1989, they had left behind 50,000 dead comrades, the Moscow treasury was bankrupt and the Soviet Union was in a state of dissolution. The U.S.-equipped Afghan warlords finally triumphed over the Communist regime in Kabul and then turned on each other in an orgy of destruction and bloodletting. Whatever Soviet-built infrastructure was still intact in Kabul in 1996 was destroyed when the Taliban movement forced the mujahedeen warlords north of the Hindu Kush.

In the wake of 9-11, the planners in the White House must have suffered from short-term memory loss as they rushed to throw their troops into the very same trap they had built to destroy the Soviets. After using military force to topple the Taliban, the Americans appointed Hamid Karzai as president. His first act as leader was to invite the U.S.-led coalition to deploy a security assistance force to prop up his regime. Unlike the Soviets, the Americans didn't need to deploy in support of this request - they were already on the ground.

Now into the seventh year of their occupation and with the American economy on the point of collapse, NATO is looking to Russia for help in transporting troops and equipment into Afghanistan. With the skyrocketing oil prices boosting the Russian ruble to dizzy new heights and no one asking for their troops to fight and die in Afghanistan, it would seem that the wheel of fate has turned a full circle.

If you want to drive this point home, go out and rent an old copy of Rambo III. That's the sequel wherein Sylvester Stallone fights alongside the guerrillas, and the final credits dedicate the movie to "the brave mujahedeen in Afghanistan."

I kid you not.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; rambo; russia; simplisticoverview; wot
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It's pretty odd for NATO to be asking Russia for help -- particularly with Afghanistan?

But I do recall that Rambo mention.

1 posted on 03/13/2008 7:11:20 PM PDT by Bokababe
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To: Bokababe

Wow...that IS ironic. NATO asking their arch-nemesis who they told to get out of Afghanistan for help. Nye mozhe biyt! (Impossible!)


2 posted on 03/13/2008 7:16:14 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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Asking Russian help? In Afghanistan?
We must actually want them to tell us to go pound sand.


3 posted on 03/13/2008 7:17:01 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Bokababe
Not so very strange by that area's standards. This is, after all, what Kipling named the Game of Kings. Alliances shift, fade, and reform, and we've been dusting some people to whom the Russians owe a very great deal of pain for Beslan. HERE is a thread Dog posted in which we grease some Chechens. We didn't go looking for them, they came looking for us. Too bad.
4 posted on 03/13/2008 7:18:17 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Bokababe
I try to fit in up here in the People's Republic of Washington, but it's so confusing to pretend to be a liberal:I think I'm just going to give up and say "the US is evil" in response to anything at all.
5 posted on 03/13/2008 7:24:33 PM PDT by Fabozz
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To: Bokababe

Thank God the great Ronald Reagan brought the EVIL EMPIRE to its knees in Afghanistan and sent them retreating back to Russia, in humiliation and defeat.


6 posted on 03/13/2008 7:25:44 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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Afghanistan would not let the russians back in. They last time they were there, they were barbaric.


7 posted on 03/13/2008 7:28:51 PM PDT by edcoil (Go Great in 08 ... Slide into 09)
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To: Fabozz

Hey, Fab, I’m just as confused by this as you are!


8 posted on 03/13/2008 7:32:36 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
Interesting article, but I think the author is wrong on a couple of points: 1) the "Cold War enemy" was never Russia, just the Soviet Communist dictatorship over the Russian people; 2) the USSR lost 15,000 not 50,000, 3) he is probably not aware of the assistance rendered by Russia to the Northern Alliance in overthrowing the Taliban in 2003 or so. Also the Warsaw Pact did not have "Communist countries", but "Communist-CONTROLLED countries", a crucial difference, the same way we would never call Norway and Poland "Nazi countries".

I think that if NATO needs Russia so much, they should do so only on the condition that NATO withdraw from the Serbian province of Kosovo-Metohija and let the Serbs defend their ancestral homeland from the Muslims.

9 posted on 03/13/2008 7:36:19 PM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: wildandcrazyrussian

Great points, I agree.


10 posted on 03/13/2008 7:37:32 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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"Thank God the great Ronald Reagan brought the EVIL EMPIRE to its knees in Afghanistan and sent them retreating back to Russia, in humiliation and defeat."

Well, I am certainly elated that the Soviet Union is dust, and it did happen on RR's watch, but Afghanistan was the Soviets' downfall and our involvement in that started before RR -- think Zbigniew Brzezinski under Carter, just before RR took office. Then Democrat Charlie Wilson started helping the mujahadeen in 1980.

11 posted on 03/13/2008 7:40:04 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
Image hosted by Photobucket.com did anybody bother to ask the Afghans what THEY thought of that idea???
12 posted on 03/13/2008 7:43:33 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Billthedrill

Russia will likely give us what we want. Their new NATO liaison Dmitri Rogozin is a strong nationalist who doesn’t want China expanding their reach into central Asia any more than we do. KGB Putin supports his red comrades in Beijing of course and has pursued a stupid and suicidal policy of allowing the Chi-coms into central Asia to help force the USA out. Instead the Russians should bring us in to contain China. We’ve already returned to Uzbekistan. Rogozin likely sees that having NATO in Central Asia is in Russia’s best interests, and our withdrawal would only be in the interests of Iran and the Taliban.


13 posted on 03/13/2008 7:48:23 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Bokababe

Uh-huh, Jimmy Carter and the Democrat Party brought down the Soviet Union. What a laugh. Sell that line of BS somewhere else sister.


14 posted on 03/13/2008 7:49:52 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Bokababe
"the brave mujahedeen in Afghanistan."

Mujahadeen is the plural of mujahid, which means "one who does jihad" in Arabic, just FYI. Muslims vs. communists. They were fighting the Russians because they were infidels, and that's what Muslims are supposed to do. We were fighting the Russians because they were communists. If you ask me, both sides are undesirable, but the USSR certainly posed much more of a threat back then. Besides, we did go back and topple the Taliban regime later anyway....sort of. The survivors fled to Pakistan instead.
15 posted on 03/13/2008 7:53:12 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Man, Rudyard wasn’t kidding about that Game Of Kings stuff, was he? Many thanks for the excellent information. BTT.


16 posted on 03/13/2008 7:54:44 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Bokababe

WTF


17 posted on 03/13/2008 7:55:22 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Let Freedom Ping List - Ron Paul - Ron Paul - Ron Paul - Join it.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Ugh. I have been reminded that Kipling used the locution "The Great Game" in Kim. That correction gives me a chance for a Bump To the Top... ;-)
18 posted on 03/13/2008 7:58:29 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Bokababe
After a quick smoke break, they discussed the feasibility of Russians in Afghanistan...

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19 posted on 03/13/2008 8:59:42 PM PDT by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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To: Bokababe

Doesn’t surprise me. NATO included Russia in Partner in Peace under Clinton. Heck I thought Russia was going to be IN NATO...well the jury is still out on that.


20 posted on 03/13/2008 9:08:15 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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