Posted on 03/14/2008 6:54:59 AM PDT by jdm
Before the press began looking into the inflammatory rhetoric of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, they fawned over his association with Barack Obama and Oprah Winfrey. In a Chicago Tribune profile that appeared just as Obama announced his candidacy for the presidency in January 2007, the Senator confirmed the close relationship with the firebrand preacher at Trinity United Church. Wright provides both a moral compass and political advice, Obama said — then:
Wright, 65, is a straight-talking pragmatist who arrived in Chicago as an outsider and became an institution. He has built a congregation of 8,500, including the likes of Oprah Winfrey and hip-hop artist Common, by offering an alternative to socially conservative black churches that are, Wright believes, too closely tied to Chicago’s political dynasties.
Obama, too, also came to the city as a young unknown. Emerging from relative obscurity with his win in the Democratic U.S. Senate primary race for a U.S. Senate seat, he found a growing audience by preaching the politics of social justice and common ground. He has encouraged Democrats to acknowledge the power of faith in the lives of Americans. Now, he is positioning himself as a presidential candidate who can unify the American people.
Obama says that rather than advising him on strategy, Wright helps keep his priorities straight and his moral compass calibrated.
“What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice,” Obama said. “He’s much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I’m not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that’s involved in national politics.”
This sounds much different than Obama’s “old uncle” analogy that he has used of late as more of Wright’s inflammatory rhetoric has come to light. Wright has always stirred controversy, but not to the level that Obama feels now. Calling on his congregation to say “God damn America” and railing at Hillary Clinton because she has never been called the N-word may not have a great impact on the rapidly diminishing number of primary elections Obama has to face before winning the nomination. It will have a huge impact on how people see him in the general election, since as Obama himself stated in this piece, he seeks out Wright for political guidance before making any “bold” political moves.
What kind of advice would people believe him to receive from Wright, after having heard his sermons? And why would Obama seek it, and feel comfortable in the race-baiting environment Wright provides?
Obama may have less to lose than Oprah Winfrey, however. She has built a media empire by making herself accessible to women across all demographic lines. Not many people would associate Oprah’s easygoing nature and warm, welcomng appeal with the kind of oratory provided by Wright. Both Obama and Winfrey may have to tune their “old uncle” messages in the weeks and months ahead, if they want to continue their wide appeal to Americans who don’t feel compelled to ask for God’s damnation on the nation they love.
just like having the devil advise you.
So WHO gave the Media these tapes of the SCREAMING RACIST PASTOR??? HILLARY’S MINIONS???
Actually, I think they are for sale at Obama's church.
Must have been Hillary’s hit team- or else the GOP is stupid-
the tapes of this raging racist idiot who serves as Obama’s spiritual mentor- would have been much more valuable if released after Obama won the nomination
Maybe, but someone HAD to give them to the media.....wonder who?
Wright preaches hate, hate for America and hate for whites. He believe the US government created AIDS to test on the blacks in Africa. He believe the US is buying the drugs coming into this country to use against Blacks and minorities. He believes the US deserved 911 as a result of US genocide around the world. He believe Louis Farakahn is a great person deserving of a lifetime achievement award.
It is easy to understand how Obama does not salute the flag, wear a flag on his lapel, and how his wife has never been proud of America in light of all this. THEY believe these things.
This strikes not only to Obama's core beliefs (because he clearly has attended this church, heard these sermons, and depends on this man for counsel), it also goes to his judgement...something he has tried to make a big deal out of in the campaign.
Fact is, Obama and his policies display themselves an agreement with this preacher, his actions betray the same...and they speak to an unbelievable bad judgement given the history of the United States in the modern world, not only abroad but domestically.
Obama and his wife themselves demonstrate how ludicrous these charges and beliefs are...and how poor their judgement is for countenacning them.
...and all of this does not even go to or address Obama's "friendly" association with one of the founders of the Weathermen underground, who is an avowed and self admitted domestic terrorist, guilty himself of bombings in this country...and who is wholly unrepentant of the same.
The Obama's, along with these associations, are enemies to all this nation has been founded and established upon.
It is amazing to me, and a horribly sad commentary on our times, that so many Americans are being mesmerized by this abject charlatan and camelion. He is a ravening wolf and we must spread the word of his associations as far and as wide as possible.
At least one of those YouTubes- the one from the week of 9/11 has been online for many months if not longer.
Hillary never thought it would come to this- now she MUST go for the superdelegates with everything she’s got. It’s going to get uglier.
Hillary is the ONLY one who gains by this getting out now, before Penn. and the Michigan Mulligan.
Well, Wright’s views and words explain Michelle Obama’s chip-on-the-shoulder hatred for America. And Obama’s vow to apologize to the world for America’s supposed sins. These remarks also explain why Obama’s white grandma, the woman who largely raised and educated him, is kept well out of sight while the primaries are being held. In his bio, an ungrateful Obama dismisses his white grandparents as “white folk” of dubious pedigree—one was “thought” to have had a Confederate ancestor. Meanwhile the media presents fawning portraits of an Obama Kenyan grandmother who may or may not be an Obama blood relative but who in any case had nothing to do with him until he reached adulthood.
“Obama’s Black Seperatist Church”. I want to hear that from ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN, and FOX. I most certainly would hear that constantly if David Duke was McCain’s pastor for the past 20 years.
Couldn't agree more which is why I continously scratch my head with the likes of Hannity et. al. going after him now. IMHO, Hillary will not be as easily beaten as many assume.
It explains why Obama really does not choose to wear an American flag lapel pin, nor salute the Ameircan flag during our anthem
It also give some clues into the things Obama “HOPES” to “CHANGE”, his pastors’ rnat has laid out the things Obama must believe in his heart, that an America “ruled by rich white people” does wrong-
If he is ever elected- bend over for massive income transfers from rich (meaning white) US people to others who “deserve” “social justice”, and not just in the US
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Obama, each day appears to be the Manchurian/Islamofacist candidate.
It is time to repudiate the haters of America. They are not leaders, they are scumbags and often traitors.
Has anybody noticed we have heard of no further gaffes from angry Michelle “Affirmative Action” Obama for the past week or so? Did somebody put duct tape on her mouth?
But who tipped ABC News off so they could run a more than three minute prime time expose of Wright?
Rush mentioned that Fox News was doing a story on whether the moonbat reverend violated the Church's tax-free status by endorsing Obamna. The FNC reporter listened to all the CD's that are for sale at the church and discovered the anti-american and anti-white rants.
Oprah, like BO (middle initial deleted), is a successful con-artist. I don’t know where Oprah learned how to do it, but BO picked it up - albeit at long distance - from his con-artist father.
I think a Fox reporter bought them at the Church’s gift shop where they are on sale. The rest of our hard-working media hadn’t gotten around to it.
The rubric of "social justice" ought to sound a warning. It's usually a code word used as cover for "progressive" social change of the Marxian, Gramschian, and Alinskian variety -- which not only has nothing whatever to do with our constitutional order, but actively seeks to undermine and supplant it.
No wonder Obama does not wear the flag lapel pin, or place his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance. He does not love America, her traditions, and her institutions.
Can you imagine the people electing a man as President who does not love the country he seeks to lead? Could this really happen here?
It's amazing to me, too, "and a horribly sad commentary on our times, that so many Americans are being mesmerized by this abject charlatan and camelion," just as you say Jeff.
Thanks so much for the ping!
Barrack Hussein Obama/sama may be more dangerous than the Hilldebea$T is.
“The rubric of “social justice” ought to sound a warning. It’s usually a code word used as cover for “progressive” social change of the Marxian, Gramschian, and Alinskian variety — which not only has nothing whatever to do with our constitutional order, but actively seeks to undermine and supplant it.
No wonder Obama does not wear the flag lapel pin, or place his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance. He does not love America, her traditions, and her institutions.
Can you imagine the people electing a man as President who does not love the country he seeks to lead? Could this really happen here? “
The hatred of America runs deep in the veins of the elite lefties of America.
Thank you for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ!
Yes it can. Watch it happen. Then prepare for the consequences.
Strictly a rhetorical question, right? The answer to that rhetorical question is, to coin a phrase, "Yes We Can!"
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Great post Betty !!
The two democrats are IMO going to go at each other too hard . So hard that it will either appear too be a stolen nomination from Obama or be a stolen nomination from Obama.
The twits that vote for these two will set fire to the country in more ways than one. We are due some serious times as Hildebeast will not stop in her quest for the brass ring.
Gonna be a hot spring !
Stay safe !!!
Oh YHAOS, you are so droll! :^)
You're the silver lining in the dark cloud.... It's called "spirit." And you've got it. And so do we all. Never forget that.
But more importantly, never forget that God is in complete charge; all things will be done according to His Word.
So to quote an ancient inscription, "Rest still in God's arms, and your silence will confound your enemies."
If the worst happens, and somehow a presidential candidate who defines his constituency in terms of the Black Power Movement, fully identifying himself with their aspirations, is elected in the general, then we would have a president who was NOT the representative of We the People of the [whole] United States: He would be illegitimate from Day One.
And then We the People would have to mull over our options....
Meanwhile, I'm not discouraged; for we do not know what will happen in the future, though various scenarios can be envisioned. What we do know is we have six weeks to get the word out on Barack Hussein Obama. Pennsylvania will tell a lot about his viability as a candidate for the Democrat nomination.
Though I can't tell fortunes, I continue to surmise that by hook or by crook, the successful nominee, post-convention, will be Hillary Clinton.
And yes Squantos, it's going to be a lively Spring!
The WSJ has one of Wright’s hate America, racist sermons listed on line.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1985856/posts
Wright and Obama: It Only Gets Worse
Confederate Yankee ^ | March 14, 2008 | Staff
Posted on 03/14/2008 3:15:38 PM PDT by jdm
The Wall Street Journal has published yet another damning sermon from Barack Obama’s retiring minister of two decades, Jeremiah Wright.
The displaced anger, bigotry, and hatred displayed is chilling:
“We’ve got more black men in prison than there are in college,” he began. “Racism is alive and well. Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run. No black man will ever be considered for president, no matter how hard you run Jesse [Jackson] and no black woman can ever be considered for anything outside what she can give with her body.”
Mr. Wright thundered on: “America is still the No. 1 killer in the world. . . . We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns, and the training of professional killers . . . We bombed Cambodia, Iraq and Nicaragua, killing women and children while trying to get public opinion turned against Castro and Ghadhafi . . . We put [Nelson] Mandela in prison and supported apartheid the whole 27 years he was there. We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.”
His voice rising, Mr. Wright said, “We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic. . . . We care nothing about human life if the end justifies the means. . . .”
Concluding, Mr. Wright said: “We started the AIDS virus . . . We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty. . . .”
As the story of Wright’s forceful bigotry finally forced it’s way into the mainstream media yesterday at ABC News with the story Obama’s Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11, the people Barack Obama has chosen to surround himself with has come under sharp focus.
From a self-isolated, self-pitying wife, to a bombastic, bigoted minister, to an unreformed terrorist, Barack Obama has surrounded himself with very questionable ideological company, associations from which he has no defense. He wasn’t forced to chose to spend time with this cadre of believers on the radical fringe, he embraced them willingly.
Predictably, as the media has come to focus on Obama’s two-decade relationship with Wright, Obama supporters have been quick to attempt to minimize the damage. Unable to do it with a forceful denunciation of Wright’s bigotry by Obama (Obama has only uttered the lamest of excuses), they have instead attempted to tar Republican candidate John McCain as being equally bad, for the support he has garnered from controversial evangelists Rod Parsley and John Hagee.
For those of you unfamiliar with these men, Parsley’s most famous controversial statements include calling Islam a “false religion” that must be destroyed, opposition same-sex marriage, partial-birth abortion, hate-crimes legislation, and the separation of church and state. Hagee has been ripped an an anti-Catholic bigot, stated that Hurricane Katrina was an act of God against New Orleans for the city’s “level of sin,” and for claiming that the Qur’an has “a scriptural mandate to kill Christians and Jews.”
There, of course, is a difference between John McCain’s political endorsements by Parsley and Hagee, and Barack Obama’s 20 years of willfully absorbing Wright’s hatred, a toxicity to which he has willfully exposed family.
I addressed this attempt to equivilate Obama and McCain in a comment to the ABC News blog story Obama camp: ‘Deplores divisive statements’, which featured yet another inflammatory speech by Wright.
My comment read:
I see that some are already attempting to trot out a comparative argument, that Wright’s offensive, bigoted, and paranoid rants are somehow lessened by invoking John McCain’s support from John Hagee and Rod Parsley, two prominent evangelists who have also made provocative statements.
But here is the huge gaping difference between these attempts: Barack Obama has spent the better part of the past 20 years of his life listening to, absorbing, and yes, agreeing with Wright’s sermons. If he did not agree with the bulk of those sermons, he would have of course left Trinity for another church—finding a church in Chicago that closely fits your own personal beliefs is not at all difficult, and Obama obviously agrees with Wright far more than he disagrees.
That Obama has spent 20 years listening to Wright, thought enough of him to use one of those sermons as the title of his book, “The Audacity of Hope,” that he was married by Wright, had both of his children baptized by Wright and brought up in this church, listening to these paranoid and racist rants that differ little in substance from the words of a much more famous racist, Louis Farakkan, means that Obama AGREES with Wright far more often than he disagrees with him.
From that, what are we to make of Obama? Actions, indeed, do speak louder than flaccid conciliatory words that have only just now been uttered.
I say again the obvious: no American would spend 20 years listening to a minister with which he vehemently disagreed.
McCain, by comparison, is guilty of pandering to Haggee and Parsley because of the (unfortunate) influence they have over a powerful voting demographic.
I can find scant evidence that McCain has sat though one sermon from Hagee or Parsley, much less 20 years of them.
Which is worse?
The politician that panders for votes, or the man who has listened to and internalized anti-American, anti-Jewish, and anti-white messages for 20 years before ever once publicly disagreeing with them, and who is raising his children in this same toxic environment?
Not only am I certain Barack Obama is unfit to run this nation, I now question his ability to raise his own children, for the hatred he has willingly exposed them to since their births.
Yes, I went there. Read again Wright’s rant in the WSJ article featured above, or some of his other hate speech (for that is what it is), and try to explain to me that a good parent exposes his children to an environment that exudes such naked anger, resentment, defeatism, and conspiratorial paranoia.
Perhaps some of you are comfortable having your children raised in such an environment, but I am not, and I do not think that someone who willingly exposes himself and his family to internalizing such vitriol for 20 years is the kind of person we need or want to lead this nation.
Maybe we are going to have the wake up call that we should had decades ago when Fonda, Kerry and Kennedy did what they did to our country and our military warriors.
Consider who the people of Mass. elect year after year..
"Its not who votes but who counts the votes"- Stalin..
I know what I make of him: He's "all hat and no cattle."
As soon as people actually start trying to pin him down on policy, I think we will begin to see that he really is an empty suit. You can only straddle the truth so much; and then people are going to ask for details about why you are endorsing two opposite "truths" at once. He does this all the time. It's a complete sham.
Do not lose hope, Grandpa Dave -- it is one of the three divine virtues.
Meanwhile, just make yourself a batch of popcorn and prepare to settle in and be amused.... The forthcoming Democrat National Convention ought to turn out to be a real howler.
God bless the Wall Street Journal. This stuff's gotta "out." And I believe it will....
No way am I losing hope.
This has been a great week of big victories.
And I resent that these tapes have been out there on Hannity and elsewhere, and were ignored until ABC did a report.
Why/how can we continue to let the MSM rule us?
Yes; I know, dear brother 'pipe. I live there.
It's no surprise to me that the "mastermind/strategist" behind the Obama campaign -- David Axelrod -- is the very same who got us Mass. folks Deval Patrick as governor.
Whatta joke! "Yes we can!!!"
Can what? Patrick's campaign was never forced to answer that question directly.... So now we're finding out he wants to be in the casino business.
Just think of all the dough the Commonwealth could rake in from not one, but three, Indian casinos! (Not to mention campaign donations and God only knows what else.)
However, it appears that Sal DeMasi, speaker of the legislature, is taking a very dim view of this.... But then again, maybe he's just bargaining for a bigger "piece of the action." Stay tuned.
But I figured that Massachusetts citizens are just a bit more stupid (either congenitally, or from having drunk the Kool-Aid they dispense in Cambridge) than your average American bear. I continue to believe (hope!) that Americans in general have not completely lost their minds....
Too bad Obama’s just another race hustler.
Just think what it would do for race relations in this country if he denounced this with extreme prejudice and called on the thousands of other black hate ministers out there to halt this rethoric and even made it a staple talking point of his campaign.
Now that would be the politics of “change”, but he’s just another one in a long line of hustlers.
Early on in this interminable campaign, I was fervently hoping that Barack Obama would somehow manage to gain momentum and overtake Hillary Clinton (who made no bones about the fact that she figured she could simply waltz into Denver in August, the pre-ordained nominee – arrogance having never been a short suit of hers. She figured God himself wouldn’t dare deny her.)
When Obama began to win a few primaries and caucuses, I was thrilled to think that Her Highness might receive a comeuppance of sorts. But when Obama delivered his forty-five-minute victory speech last month after the Wisconsin primary, much to the chagrin of his handlers, he made public much of his ideology that the media, until then, had been successful in keeping under wraps.
It was after that speech that, for the first time ever, I began to think that Hillary Clinton looked good, relatively speaking.
As evidenced by that Wisconsin victory speech, and everything I have managed to dig up since, regarding his political ideology, Senator Obama is an avowed socialist – even crossing over the line into communist doctrine. Much of what he proposed in his Wisconsin victory speech might well have been lifted straight out of the teachings of Saul Alinsky or Karl Marx.
Yet that painful revelation proved to be just the tip of a monstrous iceberg. Now we are learning that Senator Obama also closely associates himself with virulent hate-America/black power crowds. They are among his circle of friends and advisors – people who despise the foundations upon which this republic was founded, who blame America for many of the ills of the world, who believe that many of the tragedies that have befallen our citizens (9/11 most prominent among them) were somehow ‘deserved’ because we are rapists and plunderers who prey upon the less fortunate of the world, and who believe that the time has come for black people to wrest power from the evil white man in order to mold America into a black-oriented culture.
I heard today that Obama now conveniently ‘deplores the divisive statements’ made by Rev. Wright – that he has not left Trinity Church because he knew that Rev. Wright would soon be retiring, and he simply wanted to tread water there until someone new took over.
The most hate-filled of Rev. Wright’s sermons that I have heard took place back in 2003. Senator Obama was a member in good standing during that particular toxic hate America tirade. Was it then – five years ago – that he decided to spend the next five years ‘treading water’ and listening to such anti-American garbage?
One of two things is true:
(1) Senator Obama is a pathological liar, who authors ‘situational’ explanations that bear no resemblance to the truth.
(2) He is an indecisive man, who refuses to tackle glaring problems, and prefers instead to assume the position of ‘spectator’, hoping the problem will simply go away.
I'm betting the farm on (1). But no matter which of the two is true, a man who practices either isn’t fit to be the leader of a Boy Scout troop, let alone rise to the position of leader of the free world.
These next eight months are going to be very critical in determining the survival of our republic. I pray every day that the American voter does his homework for a change, because walking into the voting booth and voting for a man who despises the real America -- the one envisioned by our Founders – will surely portend the tragic end of that magnificent vision.
~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed
Amen..
Wright is nothing more than a black David Duke hiding behing the veil of a church who has a minion running for POTUS.
Better still, either side will be so angry with the other's winning, I doubt they'll recover in time to pull out a Democrat win in the general.
Hussein’s daddy was a shape shifting con man and so is Hussein.
Wright is also an interesting con man who looks more Italian than black. Yet he’s a black nationalist firebrand. Never have I heard such howling from a pastor. Plus the audience was loving his over the top hate America preachings
Even if Hussein wanted to leave Pastor Wright’s church I’ll bet you anything his dumbass wife was more insistant about staying. She’s more into Wrights trash talk
LOLOL joanie-f!!! Funny but I've had exactly the same experience recently.
I love to read your essays dear lady. You make me feel as if I'm safely landed on an island of sanity in what is largely an insane world....
Anyhoot, I digress. To return to my original point: I could never have imagined until quite recently that there could be a "greater weevil" than Hitlery (Satan). But now I have to say that Barack Hussein Obama may very well be an even "greater weevil" than she. :^)
To cite the context here, "the choice of the greater or lesser 'weevil'," is what the Democrat party -- and later, the general electorate -- faces as this portentious year plays out.
What seems to be involved here is the rational choice of the "lesser weevil." But probably the nature of this choice cannot be understood without attributing the source of this remark.
Which comes from Patrick O'Brien, from his 20-volume Jack Aubrey historical novel. Hollywood cobbled together a screenplay from some of the earlier volumes of the series, cast Russell Crowe as Captain Jack Aubrey, and under the name Master and Commander scored a huge box-office hit.
Anyhoot, "Lucky" Jack Aubrey's dearest friend in the world is his ship's surgeon, Stephen Maturin. No two natural brothers could be closer. And yet no two men could be more unalike in their basic personal constitutions. Yet at the end of the day, no two men could be faster friends than these two.
Jack is a man of irrepressible spirit, a man whose job requires him to be ever attentive, not only to scientific data (the rules of navigation, meteorology, astronomy, etc.) , but also to knowledge of basic human nature, both modes of human knowledge as received and mediated by basic human intuition, even instinct.
Stephen is the model of the naturalist approach to human knowledge, a precurser of Darwin himself.
Jack is commander of a British warship in wartime, in the Napoleonic wars, engaging the enemy at every possible opportunity.
Stephen is (I hope I'm not giving away too much in advance) an undercover operative of the British secret service at the time. Plus he's also the product of "mixed blood," Irish and Catalonian (Spanish).... The thick ever plottens....
One little joke that Jack and Stephen always managed wryly to giggle over was the inevitable problem of sometimes having to make a choice from among unsatisfactory alternatives. They called the best choice under such conditions the choice of "the lesser of two weevils." Which is, of course, a play on the words, "the lesser of two evils."
But I imagine that was the bouquet that the more spiritual Jack was eager to toss to his more materialist friend Stephen. The fact that in the series Jack and Stephen were never long "off the same page" is, to me, a truthful and inspiring insight.
It's interesting that you should summarize the plot of 'Master and Commander' for me.
Our daughter is something of a movie buff, when it comes to historically-based movies and character studies. She sees quite a few of them, but only recommends a small percentage of them to others -- often coming away extremely disappointed in Hollywood's interpretation of history, or their superficial character portrayals.
She has been attempting to convince us to see 'Master and Commander' for several years now. (One of the selling points she has used in her coaxing is that it was directed by Peter Weir, who also directed one of my all-time favorite movies, Witness). :)
We have not yet taken her advice (I suppose because we are tired of being disappointed by what Hollywood dishes out), but will do so now, based on your fascinating descriptions of Aubrey and Maturin, and the nature of their friendship.
Many thanks (and you mustn't tell Mandy that you succeeded in accomplishing what she's been trying for years to do). :)
~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed
Patrick O'Brien's books are, in my humble opinion, truly great and lasting works of English literature. The richness of their characterizations would be difficult to capture in any other medium. Regarding "Master and Commander," I tremendously enjoyed the movie, but it did fall short of the novels that were "blended" to make the screenplay. I was very, very pleased with Russell Crowe's Capt. Jack Aubrey however; the actor who played Stephen Maturin (sorry his name escapes me now) was less good (IMHO. Maturin in the book could be hapless at times, and did have some health problems; but he wasn't a neurosthenic wimp....)
The best thing to do is to see the movie -- and READ THE BOOKS! All told, there are 20 in the series; I've only read ten so far. I can't tell you with what delight I look forward to reading the rest!
Wow, we really have digressed with this line of conversation! We were talking about the stealth candidate in the stealth campaign, Barrack Hussein Obama. He's giving a speech later this morning. Let's see if he can dig his way out of the hole he's managed to land himself in....
Should be interesting!
Thanks so much for writing joanie!
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