Posted on 03/14/2008 4:48:04 PM PDT by Bokababe
I know what you mean, Bokababe, but actually it’s not a waste of time. I appreciate the challenge and he seems like an articulate person. If too many things go “unanswered”, then only one side remains on the record and there’s nothing out there to counteract it. Lot’s of “Tito was G_d” stuff out there. Not nearly enough “No, he wasn’t” stuff out there. Thus, propaganda and lies become “history” and are taken at face value. Diocletian is not the only one who uses the same tactics to smear Mihailovich and the Chetniks. It’s all too predictable.
The communists (Both Yugoslav and British) and Croats, Bosnian Moslems and Albanians have, unfortunately, had GREAT success in waging their smear campaign - so much so that many history books spew the same nonsense. I guess it’s their way of diverting focus away from their war crimes and dubious affiliations and collaborations.
They’ve worked so hard at it that they have actually succeeded in many ways, but that success is fading. Truth has this funny way of always coming out, whether you like it or not. It’s up to those who know the truth to be diligent and to stay determined to make sure that it does.
Just as the truth will come out one day about the “wars” in former Yugoslavia in the 1990s and the whole Kosovo issue.
It often takes a long time, long after the players are dead.
Actually, the Wiki reference on Mihailovic above is pretty good re debunking the propaganda. Surprising since Wiki usually sucks!
Why not just answer a simple question first: provide proof that Djujic's Chetniks of Dalmatia, Lika, and Western Bosnia fought either the Italians or the Germans even once.
Well somebody had better tell
a) Fatos Klosi, former head of SHIK, who spoke of Bin Laden being in Northern Albania to help organise the Al Qaeda/Mujahideen forces
b) Mossad
c) Numerous Western reporters who eye witnessed trailers full of Mujahideen
d) Macedonian army who had to deal with Mujahideen a year or so later when their country was invaded. If the KLA wouldn't deal with them, where oh where did they come from?
e) Holbrooke, who admitted of ties between AL Qaeda and KLA
f) Bodansky, surely the authority on Islamist extremism who wrote extensively of Mujahideen in Kosovo
g) Embedded German reporter/Major Franz Josef Hutsch whose testimony in the ICTY spoke of around 100 elite Mujahideen in local HQs who'd target spot for NATO
h) Pakistani President Musharraf who wrote of 100's of Mujahideen being recruited by NATO
i) Abu Hamza who confirmed almost word for word what Musharraf had said. He was used by the British for the recruiting
j) Numerous Serb sources which you of course won't accept
k) Numerous Russian sources
l) Blah di blah di blah di blah
Quite frankly,Diocletian, I'm surprised you keep on bowling such lame half volleys.
None of this matters. Croatia will be Croatiastan with speakers blasting prayer 5 times a day in Zagreb.
And how wonderfully we paid them back for their sacrifice.
All your examples show the Mujahideen dealing with NATO......the KLA didn’t want them. It was the USA along with the Saudis that moved the Mujahideen into Kosovo...not the KLA.
I don’t hate Serbs. I have Serbian family and friends. Explain to me something: what position are you advocating: that Croatia should once again be ruled by Serbs?
No, that Croatia will be ruled by Muslims.
Sorry, not happening.
Just wait. Then Germany and the Vatican won’t save you.
It’s interesting that for so many years in the 1990s, the Western media and policy makers focused so heavily on alleged “Serb atrocities against Muslims”. Meanwhile, the Croats were dealing with the “Muslim” problem in the former Yugoslavia in their own special way, and for anyone who is familiar with Croatian methods in war, they understand what I mean here by “special”.
Diocletian doesn’t believe that Croatia will ever be ruled by Muslims. There was a time when Serbs didn’t believe that their sacred christian Kosovo would be ruled by Muslims either.
It would be interesting to see the Croatian reaction if Dubrovnik were to become “90%” Muslim (read: Serbia’s Kosovo) and consequently declare “independence” from Croatia.
Ah yes, another poster with a “prediction”. LMAO
Kosovo wouldn’t have ever been taken from Serbia had the Serbs not opened themselves up to being attacked because of their greed. Had Slobo not riled up the Serbs of Croatia and split Bosnia between Croatia and Serbia, you’d have half of Bosnia, all of Montenegro and Kosovo within a Serbian state.
Correction - 2/3rds of Bosnia.
And Hoolbroke admitted to KLA/Al Qaeda links too.
As did Bodansky.
Please try to bowl something with a little line and length.
In my opinion I think Yugoslavia was a mistake and Croatia should have been left alone. They were too busy thinking they were German to buy into a Slavic union. Serbs were always looking for Russian help that never came. Russians couldn't care less about Serbs.
Greed came from all sides because with the fall of Communism it was a big land grab. Croatia played a better political game than the Serbs and were able to make gains with the help of her old WWII friends.
Croatians don’t think they’re German....we’re just adverse to Pan-Slavism thx to the Yugoslav experience and because Pan-Slavism tends to champion Serbian interests over Croatian ones.
The Mujahideen found much more fertile ground in Bosnia to spread their brand of Islam when compared to Kosovo where the Albanians had and still have no interest in Wahhabism (but take Saudi cash anyway). But the Albanians couldn't say no to their American and Saudi allies who insisted that the Mujahideen be allowed to operate in Kosovo beside the KLA.
Mouth, gift horse, and all that.
We also agree that the US was in bed with the Mujahideen too, in Kosovo. And in Bosnia too.
So, let's agree to agree.
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