Posted on 03/15/2008 7:45:46 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
Liberals get really testy when some folks, devout Christians for example, choose to live their lives under God’s laws; but have no compunction in compelling others to live under the tender mercies of the Nanny State where they make the rules.
Five years ago, when the smoking ban in restaurants first went into effect in my home state of Connecticut, I told a few folks who were happy about it, that it was only a matter of time before the government came after their private property rights or other issues that were near and dear to their hearts. Most people scoffed at my defense of the restaurant owners’ property rights and one fellow actually said, “"The problem with you people is that all you care about is the Constitution."
(Excerpt) Read more at intellectualconservative.com ...
"Then they came for foods that contain trans fats and I didn't speak up or object, because I eat healthy and besides, this did not really affect me.........
"Next they came after children for eating candy in school and I didn’t speak up or object, because I don’t have children or considered this simply an isolated and extreme situation……
(Conn. student suspended for buying candy in school) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1984558/posts
Okay all of you defenders of the Nanny-Nazi-Police-State ( having delegated to themselves Extraconstitutional powers) who have begun arbitrarily regulating many of our personal (LEGAL) activities and choices (OF WHICH YOU DID NOT PARTAKE OR CONSIDERED PERSONALLY OFFENSIVE, THERFORE, SUPPORTED) we tried to warn you, but you dismissed us as fear-mongering, self-serving, irrational, dotes.
(AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST OFFENDERS WAS ELLIOT--"John #9--SPITZER WHEN HE BULLIED AND THREATENED CREDIT CARD COMPANIES FROM PROCESSING PURCHASES OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS ONLINE AS WELL AS FEX EX AND UPS FROM ACCEPTING SHIPMENT OF SAME)
We attempted to alert all, that this was all about POWER as opposed to legitimate "health issues," and all about "the chilluns," but you would not listen.
Well, the proverbial chickens are predictably coming home to roost. Which “right” or “freedom” do well all enjoy, will be the next target of the power-hungry-nanny-state?
You know who you are. How do you like it now?
Nanny State Ping
apparently intellectualism is so overextended that it had one of its L’s repossesed.
Ironically, I was just reading another thread where I found the following quote from Daniel Webster.
“The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions.”
Okay, I give up. Please elucidate us!!
The spelling in the link.
I hate when I do that. But then, I don't think I've ever claimed to be an intellectual. Quite the contrary, in fact.
“The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions.”
Another Quote which comes to mind attributed to Samuel Johnson in 1775: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
While there is debate about the exact quote, even earlier than that, it's was attributed to Saint Bernard of Clairvaux (1091-1153) as saying: "Hell is full of good intentions or desires."
Either way, the meaning is more apropos today than ever.
Sorry, my friend, for a second ping to this, but I pinged the whole list before reading the entire article, which I highly recomend to you as it deals extensively with the California Homeschool ruling.
THEY are coming for the maple syrup next.
Thank you. Unlike Libs/Dhimis, I accept FULL responsibility for the faux pas.
Will ten lashes with a wet noodle, suffice as suitable punishment? lol
All jocularity aside, I would not rule this out.
Of course while I love Vermont Maple Syrup, I'm presently trying to lose a "few" pounds.
Thus I would not speak up or object, as this does not affect me. /s
Maybe we could replace it with a 1. I’ve seen that done somewhere before. ;)
No, first they came for pot and other drugs, and you not only didn’t object, you supported them vociferously because you agreed it was “bad for you.” Now that they have come for the smokers, trans fats, and candy you have no cause to object because you helped establish the precedent. Pity.
Here’s a Kelo connection article.
Mine's not for sale.
You also get the Nanny State even in the halls of Corporate America. One of the vehicles I own is a P/U truck. It is a 17 year old truck and it has a few dents from off-roading. It has a double pipe bumper in the back and a roll bar on top. Where I use to work at, one of the executives (woman, born and bred in the Washington DC area and worked for IBM at one time) didn’t like seeing it by the building. I found a nice tow notice on the driver’s side window. I got then called in, got chewed out for parking it by the building and was told it was an eyesore and it will be parked away from the building. That executive mentioned through my manager that crappy looking trucks should be banned as well. I know many East Coast states target old vehicles through safety inspection laws. As soon as the national requirement was lifted in 1981, most states got rid of it.
Of course I totally missed the set up. I could have said, "They already came for the "L"" or something but, no, I had to make it complicated...
Oh, I can understand that. It would leave a gaping hole.
I wouldn’t be able to log in.
Good article, thanks for the link.
You should have threatened to sue the bitch if she continued to harass you about your truck.
Always stand up to the fascists and the fascist wanna-be’s.
There is a Senate Bill 1200 introduced in Missouri (and several other states almost word for word, -collusion anyone???)
that makes it illegal to possess ammunition after Jan 1st, 2011, that has not been somehow stamped with an ID number, or sell ammo after Jan 1, 2009 that is not ID stamped.
Also provided for record keeping of purchaser name, address, Social Security # etc.
Provides a 1/2 cent tax per bullet to finance the enforcement and administrative costs.
Allegedly this crock of BS is supposed to help police keep track of firearms incidents, and trace back to the sale of the ammo.
Talk about nanny state! We are only barely scratching the surface of what the nanny state is trying to do in the name of “protection” racketeering sanctioned by our elected “friends”.
why does everything come down to spelling? I graduated law school; i can’t spell! So what?
Not I, friend.
While a simple Conservative and not a libertarian (nor an indulger in mind-altering substances) I have taken a position that the War On Drugs has been a complete waste and a failure.
As for suggestions as to a remedy or alternative, I readily admit I don't have a substantive "clue."
Thank you for posting, and bump to the top!
For all the billions of dollars wasted on trying to stamp out illicit drugs, the problem has not and won’t go away.
It is all about money. Government giving money to local PD’s for drug enforcement.
And the government can’t collect taxes on product sales they do not sanction. Even your garage sale could be held as illegal because sales tax is not being collected.
The great lengths that government is going through repress the citizen is staggering. Some repression is directed by the elected, but a whole lot more repression is directed by the unelected and unaccountable cabinet underlings.
Does a JD trump an MBA?--which is my claim to fame, though I rarely admit it.
As an aside, I went back to school to get a BA in my mid 30's and had always thought of College Grads as a "cut above" and College Professors as something to be revered and Omnipotent.
Learned quickly that ANYONE who wants to invest the time and make a little effort (and qualifies for student assistance) can get a degree.
Moreover, as to College Profs, it soon became evident that there is such an animal as an "Educated Idiot"--LOTS of them.
Insanity run amok, I tell ya.
...or like having a conference call by mail?
If I was "coming down" on anything, it was "intellectualism."
My other favorite target is lawyers.
Though lurking here for years, am not familiar with "pings." or "bumps"
Also, if it means what I think it does, do you--or anyone reading this--know that lady from Maine who regularly posts about smoking issues (her screen name escapes me) and could somehow alert her as I am certain she enjoy getting in on this fray?
ping
She is in the list of folks I Pinged (summoned) to this thread early in the thread.
Yes, I know that dear lady, and love her very much. SheLion, I hope you enjoy the post, pinging you at OP’s request.
Bump to the top is usually written as “bttt” or “btt” and it gets the article on the “Latest Posts” page where people can see the title.
Thank you again.
Yeah, and look how you turned out. You probably ended up being a damned lawyer!
:)
“Ping” means to put a poster’s name in the “To” area at the top of the post. Then they will get a notice that there are new posts to that poster.
Just like you got a ping, from me, for this post. Some people have lists of posters who are interested in a particular topic. If you want to ping the smoker’s list, you can ping SheLion and make that request in a post.
We have decised to spend our $600.00 economic stimulus check on more firearms and ammo.
If there is any industry that needs our support, firearms and ammo will equally be supportive of our Constitutional Rights and Freedoms.
Ah, She Lion. That’s the lady. Thanks.
Excellent use of the money :)
Anything or anybody not percieved as perfect is not capable of being self supportive or self rightous.
Thats why the spelling nannys put emphasis on grammar rather than subject matter. Flawed behavior cannot be a voice of reason.
You're right! I took a solemn oath to protect and defend that document when I entered the United States Army many years ago, and then I had to go half way around the world and do it. A lot of men did it with me and some of their names are on a Wall in Washington D.C., as are the names of other men from other wars in countless cities and towns across this great nation. We fought, not for the printed word on that document, but for the ideals that it represents. Freedom, that's what we fought for, and that's what these idiots can't understand. It's not a printed word, it's a way of life, and it's the most priceless commodity on the face of this earth, and it's worth my life and the lives of all free men everywhere.
People that say such things are clueless and should be made to live under communist regimes, and never see the light of liberty again. Do not disparage the sacrifice of my brothers in front of me, I will defend them, and you will have hospital bills.
If illegal drugs became legal, we would have a whole new host of problems to deal with. Do not believe that legalization would simplistically solve our problems with drugs.
I agree. I am the worlds worst speller. I was just answering the question, not the one complaining about the spelling.
Thanks for the post. Though it would seem there still exist many who are still not persuaded, this poster does not now, nor did I ever require, convincing that the premise of this article was in fact true.
It’s not a problem.
Any articles that you think might be of interest to homeschoolers that are not another reason to homeschool, but are homeschool specific, can be pinged to Dave.
I don’t doubt that there’s a lot of overlap in our lists, but his is to deal with homeschool specific articles more than mine is. The *Another Reason* list was kind of an unexpected outgrowth of his list. We’d find those kinds of threads and someone would quip that here’s yet ANOTHER reason to homeschool and someone got the idea of starting a separate list.
Anyway, Dave, here’s one for your list.
Thanks, I was drawing a blank on who kept that particular list!
He’s the first name in the *Another Reason* list, if that helps.
You're right! I took a solemn oath to protect and defend that document when I entered the United States Army many years ago, and then I had to go half way around the world and do it. A lot of men did it with me and some of their names are on a Wall in Washington D.C., as are the names of other men from other wars in countless cities and towns across this great nation. We fought, not for the printed word on that document, but for the ideals that it represents. Freedom, that's what we fought for, and that's what these idiots can't understand. It's not a printed word, it's a way of life, and it's the most priceless commodity on the face of this earth, and it's worth my life and the lives of all free men everywhere.
I hope you realize I didn't say that about the Constitution
After all, I also gave 8 years of my life (including 18 months in Nam) to help protect and preserve.....
It is always those for whom they have not had to the price for anything, who are quick to forget about the sanctity and majesty of this foundation document and feel they can usurp any of its tenets at will, to suit their purpose or impose their beliefs on others.
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