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Attacks on his church trouble Obama
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 3/15/08 | Mary Mitchell

Posted on 03/15/2008 12:29:04 PM PDT by pissant

When Sen. Barack Obama joined Trinity United Church of Christ 20 years ago, little did he know that the church’s charismatic pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., would become a flashpoint in a Democratic presidential primary.

Wright, an activist pastor who brought the South Side church from a 85-member congregation to an 8,000-member mega-church, has been under constant attack on Fox News’ “Hannity & Colmes” as a “cult” and “separatist” church.

In an interview, Obama told the Chicago Sun-Times that, despite the controversy swirling around Wright over racial comments he made from the pulpit about Sen. Hillary Clinton, he is not abandoning his church.

“We are still members of the church,” Obama said.

At the same time, Obama strongly condemned the racially explosive language attributed to Wright.

“The particular statements that have been pulled out of Rev. Wright’s sermons are ones that I profoundly disagree with,” Obama said, adding that he has never been at Trinity when Wright made similar remarks.

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“I have felt frustrated by how the church has been characterized and by the suggestion that this is somehow a separatist church and by other statements made on these talk shows,” he said.

“Anybody who has been to the church knows this is a terrific, welcoming church,” Obama noted. Trinity “is a wonderful faith community that has done very positive things in the community and also in my life.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: chicago; dncfalseprophets; falseprophets; jeremiahwright; larrysinclairslover; nobama; obama; religiousleft; ucc
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“Anybody who has been to the church knows this is a terrific, welcoming church,” Obama noted. Trinity “is a wonderful faith community that has done very positive things in the community and also in my life.”

Unless you are white.

1 posted on 03/15/2008 12:29:07 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Osama is every bit as vile as his “pastor”.


2 posted on 03/15/2008 12:31:24 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: pissant

If the majority of people in this country were black,then Obama would be preaching this crap right alongside the rev Wright.


3 posted on 03/15/2008 12:32:29 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: pissant

...whites need not apply.


4 posted on 03/15/2008 12:32:50 PM PDT by Bull Man
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To: pissant

If the majority of people in this country were black,then Obama would be preaching this crap right alongside the rev Wright.


5 posted on 03/15/2008 12:33:06 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: pissant

So who is next to take over the church and what has he/she stated in his “sermons”


6 posted on 03/15/2008 12:33:07 PM PDT by woofie
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To: johniegrad

just not as honest


7 posted on 03/15/2008 12:34:01 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Now we know where his wife gets her views of America from!!!


8 posted on 03/15/2008 12:34:04 PM PDT by Antique Gal (Build the Damn Fence !!!!)
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To: pissant
“The particular statements that have been pulled out of Rev. Wright’s sermons are ones that I profoundly disagree with,” Obama said, adding that he has never been at Trinity when Wright made similar remarks."

And it you believe that Hussain has a bridge in NYC to sell you. Cheap!

9 posted on 03/15/2008 12:34:58 PM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: Farmer Dean

Just remember, Jesus was a black man persecuted by the white Romans.


10 posted on 03/15/2008 12:35:29 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Is it integrated?


11 posted on 03/15/2008 12:35:34 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: pissant

So now Hussein and his Drive By toadies are playing the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy card, LOL!


12 posted on 03/15/2008 12:35:50 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: Bull Man

Or blacks such as Colin, Clarence and “Condamnneesha”


13 posted on 03/15/2008 12:36:57 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Just remember, Jesus was a black man persecuted by the white Romans.

And the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

14 posted on 03/15/2008 12:37:11 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: pissant

The Sun-Times is a leftist rag sheet. The Tribune is hardly better.

Personally, it’s Obama’s long term attendance at a racist, hate-mongering “church” that troubles me.


15 posted on 03/15/2008 12:37:42 PM PDT by mike-zed
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To: woofie

The new pastor I’m suuuuure does not subscribe to Pastor Jeremiah’s beliefs.


16 posted on 03/15/2008 12:37:52 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Didn’t Jesus also warn us that the CIA was gonna put HIV in the crack cocaine?


17 posted on 03/15/2008 12:39:12 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: pissant
"20 years ago little did he know"

You don't have to see 20 years in the future to know what you are doing today is wrong.


18 posted on 03/15/2008 12:39:24 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Jeff Chandler
So now Hussein and his Drive By toadies are playing the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy card, LOL!

Yep, mean old FOX is pickin on Obama's church.

19 posted on 03/15/2008 12:39:45 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: pissant
Wright, an activist pastor who brought the South Side church from a 85-member congregation to an 8,000-member mega-church,

I guess race baiting sells
20 posted on 03/15/2008 12:39:53 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Emmett McCarthy

And invent 3-strikes laws to keep the black population in prison...


21 posted on 03/15/2008 12:41:04 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
the church’s charismatic pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.

More like racist lunatic hate monger.

22 posted on 03/15/2008 12:41:20 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: pissant

The first reaction of most cult members is denial. Obviously Obama and his wife need de-programmers to make them snap out of it.

Supposedly the 1-800 numbers you call when you want leave a cult are owned by the Church of Scientology, so that would probably be the wrong route to go with.

Maybe Al Sharpton can snap them out of their trance.

Make no mistake though, he and his wife are both members of this cult, so getting them to severe relations over a 48 hour period from a cult they’ve been member of for the past 20 years, will be difficult at best... Pardon the pun.


23 posted on 03/15/2008 12:41:26 PM PDT by jerod (They were pro-abortion, for gun control & wanted a cleaner environment at all cost - The NAZI party)
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To: pissant

I’m beginning to see a disturbing picture. I get the sense that Obama HONESTLY doesn’t GET what the problem is, and how DEEPLY it effects the country.

Yet- one of the foundations of his campiagn is - trust his judgment.

~snip~

Wright “has preached for 30 years,” Obama said. “I don’t think this is a well-rounded portrait of him.”

Obama, who has been campaigning across the country since last year, is no longer among the Sunday morning worshippers at Trinity.

Although still a member of the church, Obama acknowledges that these ongoing controversies have put “strains” on his relationship with his pastor.

“I have felt frustrated by how the church has been characterized and by the suggestion that this is somehow a separatist church and by other statements made on these talk shows,” he said.

“Anybody who has been to the church knows this is a terrific, welcoming church,” Obama noted. Trinity “is a wonderful faith community that has done very positive things in the community and also in my life.”

As the gospel teaches, Obama is looking for a way to condemn Wright’s actions but still love the man.

~snip~


24 posted on 03/15/2008 12:42:26 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: pissant
His troubled mind doesn't equal mine. I am "troubled" and "deeply saddened" that a man who aspires to lead our majority white nation has followed a "spiritual advisor" who palpably hates white America.

Has it occurred to you that Rev. Wright has sucked up to the Islamics, when it was Arab Islamists who rounded up Africans and ran the slave bazaars whence America's slaves mostly came from? Does this whacked out hate monger have a clue that slavery still exists in many places in the world? Does it bother him that Christian blacks are being enslaved and killed by other blacks in many places? I doubt it. He is too filled with putting down whitey, and incidentally keeping his people victims.

vaudine

25 posted on 03/15/2008 12:42:42 PM PDT by vaudine (RO)
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To: Bull Man
...whites need not apply. or conservative black people like me!
26 posted on 03/15/2008 12:43:07 PM PDT by srotaG adirolF (I'm an independent conservative...and proud of it!)
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To: pissant

Pissant I am shocked...you know Obama was never in attendance
when these kinds of sermons were taught1 I heard him say it just
last night. Honest.....


27 posted on 03/15/2008 12:43:11 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: pissant
“We are still members of the church,” Obama said

And a big, big cash contributer too. No wonder the pastor drives a Benz!

28 posted on 03/15/2008 12:43:36 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: pissant
“Anybody who has been to the church knows this is a terrific, welcoming church,” Obama noted. Trinity “is a wonderful faith community that has done very positive things in the community and also in my life.” Unless you are white.

This church teaches NO differently than what is commonly acceptable teaching at any government American History class bottom UP.

29 posted on 03/15/2008 12:45:08 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: pissant
The things said by the Rev don't trouble him. People critical of what his Rev said trouble him.

Says it all, folks. He was doing a pretty good acting job up until now. He's been outed as a Black Panther sympathizer, in my opinion.

30 posted on 03/15/2008 12:45:32 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Yardstick

Conservative are just too mean spirited to realize that Hussein has the Wright Stuff.


31 posted on 03/15/2008 12:45:37 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Barack Hussein Obama: the Wright Stuff)
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To: johniegrad

“Osama is every bit as vile as his “pastor”. “

Yes he is and he doesn’t get it.

He was trying to hide it but the all bets are off now.


32 posted on 03/15/2008 12:46:04 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: pissant

Not only the pastor but the mob-like behavior of his church members was an eye-opener.

But I guess whenever Obama attended they behaved differently.

/s


33 posted on 03/15/2008 12:46:51 PM PDT by aculeus
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” adding that he has never been at Trinity when Wright made similar remarks.”
That’s a very Gary Hart-like statement that just begs for some research!


34 posted on 03/15/2008 12:48:15 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: pissant

Black leftist Mary Mitchell is doing her best to spin this racist hate filled church as usual the victim card. There getting desperate at Socialist team Osama Obama.


35 posted on 03/15/2008 12:49:56 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: pissant
Yeah,

“God Damn AmeriKKKa, 9-11 was your fault you racist murderers!”

Yeah, why would anyone have a problem with that? LOL

Shame on anyone who uses free speech to criticize people who use religion and free speech to attack America.

LOL

Obama’s chickens are coming home to roost!

36 posted on 03/15/2008 12:50:02 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Hardastarboard
Attacks on his church trouble Obama.....And HIS church troubles me.

the church’s charismatic pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.

More like racist lunatic hate monger

As my young daughter daughter pointed out to me the Rev.Wright is much like the Pastor Fred Phelps of the WBC.

Both IMHO are lunatic hate mongers.

37 posted on 03/15/2008 12:50:05 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Out, damned spot......OUT)
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To: Antique Gal
Now we know where his wife gets her views of America from!!!


Nah, she had them BEFORE she met the Obomination. She wrote a thesis on them.

Part 1

http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_1-251.pdf

Part 2

http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_26-501.pdf

Part 3

http://www.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_51-751.pdf

Part 4
http://dyn.politico.com/pdf/080222_MOPrincetonThesis_76-981.pdf

When she met the Obomination and they married they also signed up for reinforcement of their twisted hatred and racial bigotry. It was a marriage of hell for all.

38 posted on 03/15/2008 12:50:13 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: woofie

Apparently this is the new pastor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfnxiKrQ49k

You be the judge.


39 posted on 03/15/2008 12:50:21 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Jeff Chandler
So now Hussein and his Drive By toadies are playing the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy card, LOL!

Don't you mean the Vast WHITE Wing Conspiracy?

40 posted on 03/15/2008 12:50:53 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Lockup child molesters RFN!)
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To: pissant
The Chicago Sun-Times, just totin’ the water.
41 posted on 03/15/2008 12:51:09 PM PDT by CarryingOn (Spread the message every day, like your life depended on it.)
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To: pissant

That clip of Wright saying “God damn America” alone will lose the election for Obama.


42 posted on 03/15/2008 12:52:36 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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8 thousand members? Wow. I didn’t realize it was THAT big.


43 posted on 03/15/2008 12:52:57 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: pissant

Seriously, are there ANY white people in this church?

I’m inclined to say “no”.


44 posted on 03/15/2008 12:53:02 PM PDT by FReepapalooza (Joshua 3:4 ..."for ye have not passed this way heretofore.")
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To: pissant

Yeah, but he wasn’t troubled by the church’s attacks on America.


45 posted on 03/15/2008 12:53:26 PM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: pissant
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46 posted on 03/15/2008 12:54:02 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Vote for McCain but trust in the Lord)
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To: pissant
The media was supposed to keep this under wraps until after the November election. It would have worked except for the Republican attack machine, A.K.A. Fox News. I can see why Obama would be upset.

Whites are supposed to know their role by now--go into paroxyms of guilt over the history of how white Americans have treated "people of color." The last thing they should do is to demand Barack explain what he really believes or really intends to do if he becomes President.

47 posted on 03/15/2008 12:55:05 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: denydenydeny
That clip of Wright saying “God damn America” alone will lose the election for Obama.


'Nuff said!

48 posted on 03/15/2008 12:55:27 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Lockup child molesters RFN!)
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To: aculeus
That is exactly what disturbed me-—the high fives, the dancing in the aisles, the clapping every time the “pastor” made these racist statements....what an eyeopener!
49 posted on 03/15/2008 12:55:39 PM PDT by Red RN
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To: joebuck
Obama said, adding that he has never been at Trinity when Wright made similar remarks."

Listen, even if he had not been at the church when these, or other hateful remarks, had been issued from the "pulpit"; Obama is a close friend to this man. He has to have had this man over for dinner or other such gatherings. Do you think that this man has never made similar remarks during his day-to-day conversations with people.

I simply don't believe that Obama has never heard this man say things like this, while in the pulpit or out of it.

50 posted on 03/15/2008 12:55:43 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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