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Obama's Church: Cauldron of Division (Obama was present at Wright's July 22, 2007 sermon)
Newsmax ^ | Aug. 9, 2007 | OBAMA'S MAMA

Posted on 03/16/2008 9:52:01 AM PDT by rao2000

Obama's Church: Cauldron of Division

Jim Davis Thursday, Aug. 9, 2007

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Presidential candidate Barack Obama preaches on the campaign trail that America needs a new consensus based on faith and bipartisanship, yet he continues to attend a controversial Chicago church whose pastor routinely refers to "white arrogance" and "the United States of White America."

In fact, Obama was in attendance at the church when these statements were made on July 22. .....

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To: rao2000
According to this link, Obama was in Miami on July 22, 2007, speaking to the National Council of La Raza annual conference. This is confirmed by video on Obama's website (just Google "Obama July 22, 2007," and you'll find it - I'd rather not link to his putrid site). I would much rather hit him for his pandering to La Raza than for his association with some kooky preacher.

NewsMax really needs to do a better job of fact checking their stories.

251 posted on 03/16/2008 9:30:37 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Philo1962; potlatch


Great post; I shall attempt to get this around in my own subtle way......

252 posted on 03/16/2008 9:38:34 PM PDT by devolve (------- --------NY Prostitutor-Governor Spitzer? ----------One more FOB is gone!)
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To: devolve

Good post devolve.


253 posted on 03/16/2008 9:40:49 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
According to this link, Obama was in Miami on July 22, 2007, speaking to the National Council of La Raza annual conference. This is confirmed by video on Obama's website (just Google "Obama July 22, 2007," and you'll find it - I'd rather not link to his putrid site).

Yes, La Raza has a Miami Herald article which indicates that Obama was there:

http://www.nclr.org/files/47992_file_miami_herald_jm_obama_clinton_7.23.07.pdf
[PDF FILE]

254 posted on 03/16/2008 9:42:51 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: Admin Moderator

Probably should correct the date of the article. It was written on August 9, 2007.


255 posted on 03/16/2008 9:43:00 PM PDT by faq
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To: potlatch

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Thanks potlatch -

I checked out 40 & 69

Good credible info

Looks like the Secret Service agents protecting al-Baraka bin Obama have some talking to do before a Grand Jury when (not) if the next hit comes from “The Wright Stuff’


256 posted on 03/16/2008 9:47:52 PM PDT by devolve (------- --------NY Prostitutor-Governor Spitzer? ----------One more FOB is gone!)
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To: Philo1962

What time of day was the sermon?


257 posted on 03/16/2008 9:51:39 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; Philo1962
Note the date:

Clinton, Obama Address La Raza Conference

258 posted on 03/16/2008 9:56:41 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Philo1962

Bump!


259 posted on 03/16/2008 10:38:40 PM PDT by Admin Moderator (<--------Control freak)
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To: joshhiggins
The iced tea reference brings back great Algore memories.

SONG PARODY: Crying (Algore sings - he was peeing!!!)


Crime/Corruption Humor Keywords: WHILE THEY WERE PLANNING AND SCHEMING, AL WAS PEEING
Source: DOUG FROM UPLAND - Song Parodies
Published: 3-2000 Author: Lyrics, Doug from Upland
Posted on 03/14/2000 23:48:26 PST by doug from upland

MIDI - CRYING

I drank iced tea…all day long
But I knew something’s wrong
I was quenching my thirst…but would my bladder burst
Before I could be relieved

Others made the plan…I am not your man
I had been pee-e-e-e-ing in the hall…pee-e-e-e-ing in the hall

And so FBI…I am really not your guy
I had been peeing…peeing…peeing…pee-e-e-ing

You’ve got to understand…I’d have ruptured a gland
So I was peeing

I knew that they might break the law…like they did in Arkansas
I’d cover my own tail…I do not like jail
I do what I have to do

Others made the plan…I am not your man
Pee-e-e-e-ing in the hall…pee-e-e-e-ing in the hall

So FBI…I’m really not your guy
I had been peeing

I know that Bill had said to me…”We will screw the GOP
My plan is so unique…but go take your leak
And do what you have to do”

Others made the plan…I am not your man
Pee-e-e-e-ing in the hall…pee-e-e-e-ing in the hall

So FBI…I’m really not your guy
I was peeing…peeing…peeing…pee-e-e-ing
Yes, peeeeeee-ing…peeeeeee-ing
I took a pee in the hall

260 posted on 03/16/2008 10:49:17 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: harwood

“then we can match it up with the hatred being spewed that day...”

And note how that Christian science Monitor called this spew ‘christianity’.

The media whitewash continues.


261 posted on 03/16/2008 10:54:30 PM PDT by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: Philo1962

You’re dead on!


262 posted on 03/16/2008 11:21:48 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: petercooper
Like the other three are patriots!

LOL!

263 posted on 03/16/2008 11:25:11 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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Note: Post #40, author of article


264 posted on 03/16/2008 11:33:06 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: dmw

I like to go right to the source....hope this helps.

http://www.vfw.org/
http://www.vfw.org/index.cfm?fa=cmty.levelc&cid=2467&tok=1
Salute
Head bare (women and military leave hats on), right hand over heart, standing at attention

http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/36C3.txt
Sec. 301. National anthem

-STATUTE-
(a) Designation. - The composition consisting of the words and
music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b) Conduct During Playing. - During a rendition of the national
anthem -
(1) when the flag is displayed -
(A) all present except those in uniform should stand at
attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;
(B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with
their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder,
the hand being over the heart; and
(C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at
the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until
the last note; and

(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face
toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the
flag were displayed.


265 posted on 03/16/2008 11:46:30 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/03/breaking-news-1.html

Website says Obama attended anti-white Wright sermon; campaign says no

In a posting this evening, Newsmax.com reports that its correspondent witnessed Sen. Barack Obama attending one of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s anti-white sermons on July 22 and nodding his head in agreement with the black congregation.

The report on the conservative website directly contradicts the Democratic presidential candidate’s recent statements that while he denounced the pastor’s controversial anti-American and anti-white rhetoric, he had never heard such declarations himself in church or in private.

Ben LaBolt, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, immediately denied the Newsmax report, saying Obama was in Miami that day. He referred to an item hastily posted on the Obama Fact Check website saying simply: “Fact: Obama did not attend services on July 22.”

The lengthy Newsmax report by Ronald Kessler said its correspondent, Jim Davis, attended services on July 22, 2007, at the Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago’s South Side and saw Obama in attendance.


266 posted on 03/17/2008 1:12:04 AM PDT by cdchik123
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To: Philo1962

Do you have pictures of him attending the service?


267 posted on 03/17/2008 1:30:49 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Philo1962; All
Obama gave a speech at La Raza conference on Sunday July 22 at 1:30 PM.

http://www.nclr.org/content/news/detail/47386/

What time was Wright sermon? It takes 3 hour to go from Chicago to Miami so Obama has to leave Chicago by 9:30 AM (10:30 AM Miami time) at the latest.

268 posted on 03/17/2008 2:16:39 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Philo1962
Thank you for the info.


When a Black supremacist can become a US Senator that then captures the presidential nomination in a major US political party, the need for affirmative action has ended.

269 posted on 03/17/2008 2:22:35 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Duncan Hunter- The very Govts unwilling to support us in the WOT got the Fuel Tanker Deal)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Please see post 268. Obama gave the speech at Laraza conference on Sunday July 22 2007, 1:30 PM. It takes 3 hours to get from Chicago to Miami so Obama has to leave Chicago by 9:30 AM (10:30 AM Miami time) at the latest. Something very fishy about the Newmax story.
270 posted on 03/17/2008 2:25:19 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: I see my hands

The offense is against Western/US civilization of which they are getting so many benefits when Africa is going downward.
Another interesting point for me would be the highlightning of the links between black victimization/anger activism ,islam(cf the “black muslims”,leftism...It could summarize B.Hussein Obama’s case


271 posted on 03/17/2008 2:30:54 AM PDT by Ulysse (freedom is not free)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Sorry for the earlier reply, I see you got the link for La Raza schedule on July 22 2007 before I did. It is hard to believe based on the time line of events and the time to go from Chicago to Miami that Obama attended the Wright sermon.
272 posted on 03/17/2008 2:39:24 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas

Post #43 shows the sermon at 6 p.m.


273 posted on 03/17/2008 2:44:34 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: cdchik123

Anyway OBAMA did hear such statements when he went to that church many times!
Should be interesting to have the record of J.Wright’s speech in that Church.Obama will not be able to state he never heard Wright’s statements


274 posted on 03/17/2008 2:44:50 AM PDT by Ulysse (freedom is not free)
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To: Lovebloggers
In fact the article says that the sermon was in the morning.

"On this particular July Sabbath morning, only a handful of white men — aside from a few members of Obama's Secret Service detail — were present among a congregation of approximately 2,500 people.

Now let us assume that it was 6:00 PM Chicago time. Obama gave the speech at La Raza from 1:30 PM to 3:00 PM. It is really hard to believe that he flew immediately after that and attended the sermon at 6:00 PM.

275 posted on 03/17/2008 2:49:10 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

NewsMax really needs to do a better job of fact checking their stories.
If we are going to slam this fraud Obama we have to do it in a credible way or else we’ll ONCE AGAIN blow an opportunity to uncover what the Dems are REALLY about .


276 posted on 03/17/2008 2:49:47 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: Lovebloggers

July 23rd he participated in a debate in SC, so highly doubtful he flew back to Chicago on the 22nd.


277 posted on 03/17/2008 2:51:04 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: Lovebloggers

July 23rd he participated in a debate in SC, so highly doubtful he flew back to Chicago on the 22nd.


278 posted on 03/17/2008 2:51:04 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: Lovebloggers

Excellent point.


279 posted on 03/17/2008 2:52:50 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: sonic109
Exactly. It seems from the evidence and the timeline that the Newsmax story is very fishy to say the least.
280 posted on 03/17/2008 2:53:44 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas

If we screw this one up then we deserve the anti American , racist president we’re going to get in Obama .
If he was white his career would be LONG over already.


281 posted on 03/17/2008 2:56:48 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: rao2000

He is done as a candidate. The only thing I’m waiting for is Michelle to lose her temper over this. Obama gets flustered when confronted with this, she’ll likely blow her stack...


282 posted on 03/17/2008 3:06:46 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: sonic109
It was a mistake to bring this issue up before Obama is the nominee. If Obama does not get the nomination then Hillary Clinton is going to be elected President. She is going to win Ohio and Arkansas and become President, Obama has no chance in hell of winning these two states against McCain.
283 posted on 03/17/2008 3:09:21 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: SueRae

You may want to read from post 251 and on to see that this story by newmax seems to be bogus.


284 posted on 03/17/2008 3:10:17 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas

Thank you for that (although I need to wash my eyes after visiting that site).

I will still maintain that Obama is done, he can’t separate himself from Rev. Wright. And I would pay money to hear Mrs. Obama’s answers to any questions on the matter.


285 posted on 03/17/2008 3:15:30 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: SueRae
Yes it is very possible that he is done but if he stays how is Hillary Clinton going to catch him in delegates? Also does he have scandals against Hillary Clinton? How about Bill Clinton sexual adventures from 2001-2008?
286 posted on 03/17/2008 3:17:37 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas
If Obama does not get the nomination then Hillary Clinton is going to be elected President. She is going to win Ohio and Arkansas and become President, Obama has no chance in hell of winning these two states against McCain.

That's been my concern as well. I have to wonder, though, if Hillary could really win Arkansas.

That this issue has been brought up now, and not earlier in the season or after the primaries, makes it wreak of Clinton.

287 posted on 03/17/2008 3:23:33 AM PDT by MitchellC ("I will be delighted... if someone with such views gets elected." Thomas Sowell ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: MitchellC

Yes she will win Arkansas and Ohio, game is over if she is the nominee unless an huge new scandal shows up against her or Bill Clinton.


288 posted on 03/17/2008 3:26:39 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; ~Kim4VRWC's~



289 posted on 03/17/2008 3:30:25 AM PDT by devolve (------- --------NY Prostitutor-Governor Spitzer? ----------One more FOB is gone!)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

The Newsmax story is correct. Perhaps some of us have already forgotten that both Obama and Hillary Clinton have made campaign appearances in both Ohio and Texas on the same day.

It is possible to attend an early church service on Sunday morning and give a speech in Miami on Sunday afternoon, particularly when you have a private jet at your disposal and a police escort clearing your way through traffic, with sirens wailing, at both ends of your flight. I also notice that the National Council of La Raza did not say whether the senator was running late that afternoon.


290 posted on 03/17/2008 3:30:28 AM PDT by Philo1962 (Iraq is terrorist flypaper. They go there to die.)
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To: Philo1962

Not it is very fishy and it seems that you made up stuff in your article. Also post 43 shows that the Sermon was delivered on 6:00 PM not in the morning as you claimed in your article.


291 posted on 03/17/2008 3:32:46 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Philo1962
It is a simple question for you: Did you see Barack Obama n the Church that morning or you just assumed he is there because of you met a secret service that you thought is part of Obama protection team?
292 posted on 03/17/2008 3:34:26 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: whoever

Good news it not going to die!

The Obama campaign and followers where hoping for a change over the weekend but instead it grew even more.

He’s done. :)


293 posted on 03/17/2008 3:37:43 AM PDT by Vice
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To: Vice

OH and I just saw on FOX&Friends that they have something(I was typing the above during it so missed exactly what) about him in fact being present at one of these hate filled sermons. Could be this...or maybe something else.
Obama is Toast.


294 posted on 03/17/2008 3:42:21 AM PDT by Vice
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To: jveritas

See above. Early church service is at 7:30 AM. This fact is posted on the church website. It lasts about an hour.


295 posted on 03/17/2008 3:47:26 AM PDT by Philo1962 (Iraq is terrorist flypaper. They go there to die.)
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To: Philo1962
ever since Obama became a major figure in Illinois politics (when he was elected senator in 2004), I’ve been watching the televised weekly sermons from Trinity United Church of Christ and they like showing off the celebrities in the audience.

I hope you have video of this, especially Obama's head-nodding.

296 posted on 03/17/2008 4:12:35 AM PDT by MitchellC (Thomas Sowell: 'I will be delighted.. if someone with such views gets elected.' ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Vice

FOX&Friends did highlight this story!

He’s been linked to hearing this stuff after he denied it and its now on a national news service. The others who usually cover for him where forced to carry his preacher they wil be forced to carry this as well. Going to be all over the place by Thursday.

Thats it IMO...
The chickens have come home to roost.
Stick a fork in it the Obama its done.
Yes It is! ;)


297 posted on 03/17/2008 4:17:10 AM PDT by Vice
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

That’s the same date as the Newsmax article but it appears there were two sermons that day. The article doesn’t say what time the reporter was there.


298 posted on 03/17/2008 4:18:10 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Philo1962; potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP

299 posted on 03/17/2008 4:19:54 AM PDT by devolve (------- --------NY Prostitutor-Governor Spitzer? ----------One more FOB is gone!)
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To: Philo1962
The Ultimate Friendship: Favor of God

Sunday, July 22 2007 7:30 AM

Jr. Deacon Anthony Burnette, Jr.

More Info

http://www.tucc.org/store/index.cfm?action=catbrowse&catid=40

It was not Wright who gave the sermon at 7:30 AM. I asked on simple question: Did you see Barack Obama that day or not?

300 posted on 03/17/2008 4:26:06 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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