Skip to comments.Obama's Church: Cauldron of Division (Obama was present at Wright's July 22, 2007 sermon)
Posted on 03/16/2008 9:52:01 AM PDT by rao2000
Obama's Church: Cauldron of Division
Jim Davis Thursday, Aug. 9, 2007
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Presidential candidate Barack Obama preaches on the campaign trail that America needs a new consensus based on faith and bipartisanship, yet he continues to attend a controversial Chicago church whose pastor routinely refers to "white arrogance" and "the United States of White America."
In fact, Obama was in attendance at the church when these statements were made on July 22. .....
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Pretty sad that FReepers believe Obama’s hate-”church” website over you, the author of the article.
An article that was published 2 weeks after the service.
An article that could have been noticed by said “church.”
An article that could have caused said “church”’s members to re-write their timelines of services for that morning’s sermon to specifically negate your article.
A lot of could-haves or human error? I wouldn’t put anything past Obama supporters and defenders.
Smacks self upside head:) Ok- that makes more sense..
It is fascinating to watch it alllll unfold.
And the author is here in the thread standing by the claim. I’ll believe him before I believe the campaign dealing with this s***storm or the website of the “church” that created it.
The idea that Obama never heard this madman’s rantings in person is utterly ludicrous anyway, so I’m failing to see the point of this timeline game we’re playing here.
Let’s call him: REV anti-WHITE...not REV WRIGHT.
Sunday Worship Services
The article says it was a Sunday morning service. Why even assume a 6:00 pm time?
Attending the 7:30 a.m. service would give Obama plenty of time to make a 1:30 p.m. speech in Miami!
FOX is saying that O was in Florida on that day...?
A bit of both, I think. He has been listening to the hate whitey diatribe so long that he actually thinks that EVERYONE thinks the same.
If nothing else, his church honoring Farrakhan as Man of the Year or whatever should have tipped Obama off.
Maybe Obama’s heart is in his pants? ;-)
That is correct, he was in Florida giving a speech to La Raza from 1:30 PM to 3:00 PM.
Your story is not adding up well. The schedule from July 22 shows that Wright was to give the Sermon at 6:00 PM and some other guy at 7:30 AM.
Yes and it is the author of the article.
See my post # 300, someone else gave the sermon at 7:30 AM and it was not Wright, he gave the sermon at 6:00 PM.
My article was published in the first week of August. Everyone's memory was still fresh. I still had all of my notes. There hadn't been a lot of time to doctor or edit any videos or websites. But the Obama camp chose to remain silent at that time. I have repeatedly called the campaign and the church, asking for an interview and mentioning the July 22 date in the messages I've left.
If Obama wasn't there, they should have spoken up right away -- immediately after the article was published. I'd bring in my notes, they'd produce their videotape, and we would get everything cleared up right away. I stand behind my story, but if I was wrong, Newsmax would have published a retraction and that would have been the end of it.
Now, after everyone's memory has faded, my notes have been taken to some landfill and there has been plenty of time to doctor the videos and the websites, the Obama campaign tries to deny he was there? They could have nipped this little problem in the bud if Obama really was not there, and they had chosen to speak up.
I think they are relying on the fact that people have fading memories about who gave the sermon in the early morning and who gave it in the evening, on a Sunday eight months ago.
I think they have the two switched around on the church website. If I recall correctly, Jeremiah Wright gave the sermon at 7:30 AM and Anthony Burnette gave the sermon at 6:00 PM. Like I said, there's been plenty of time for our memories to fade and our notes to be thrown away.
And there's been plenty of time to doctor websites and videotapes.
If Obama really wasn't there, why didn't they speak up imnmediately after my story was published in the first week of August? You've been asking a lot of questions. Answer that one.
As long as the MSM and others continue to focus on personalities like pastor Wright and speculate whether Obama was at a particular sermon or not, the better it is for Obama who can distance himself from Wright and claim he wasn't present at some of the sermons. The focus should be on the church itself and Obama's 20 year association with it. We are missing the forest for the trees.
PS: Why do attend this church anyway?
Was Obama's La Raza speech at 1:30, or did the La Raza conference start at 1:30?
If it's the latter, this is really pointless nitpicking. Even if it's the former, you're right, there's plenty of travel time to get from Point A to Point B. Especially for a prominent politician who doesn't have to deal with the same airport snags and delays the rest of us are used to.
He did not give it at 6:00 p.m. if he was flying with Obama for this campaign speech as Obama’s spiritual advisor.
Actually, it might be you. You're going above and beyond to manufacture the benefit of the doubt for B. Hussein. And you're calling the author/poster a liar, without having the courtesy to ping him when you do it.
Bad form all around. This thread certainly isn't your finest hour.