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Self-hating Spitzer--Why do men who seem to have everything throw it all away?
Jerusalem Post ^ | 3-16-08 | SHMULEY BOTEACH

Posted on 03/16/2008 12:41:03 PM PDT by SJackson

Dr. Laura Schlesinger has a penchant for inane and knee-jerk moralizing. But last week even she outdid herself, as she blamed Elliot Spitzer's long-suffering wife, Silda, for her husband's unfaithfulness with a prostitute.

Speaking on the Today show, Dr. Laura opined: "When the wife does not focus in on the needs and the feelings sexually, personally, to make him feel like a man, to make him feel like a success, to make him feel like our hero, he's very susceptible to the charm of some other woman making him feel what he needs. These days, women don't spend a lot of time thinking about how they can give their men what they need."

According to Dr. Laura's approach, these poor, neglected husbands have been pushed by their rebellious wives into being porn and sex addicts. How sad that in the wake of the Elliot Spitzer tragedy we get Dr. Laura's blame-the-victim drivel rather than an honest discussion on the downfall of the American Male.

Men today are cheating not because their wives do not love them, but because they do not love themselves; not because their wives are not caring, but because their perforated sense of self is immune to affection. Were their wives to shower them with all the love in the world, it would simply seep through the shards of their shattered egos.

Propelled to succeed by an all-encompassing fear of failure and thrown into a rat race without limit, the broken American male never feels like he is ever good enough and chooses destructive escapes to compensate.

Powerful men like Spitzer are especially susceptible to the irrational self-loathing that is increasingly affecting the American male. Whatever level of achievement he attains, it is never enough to quiet the inner demons that tell him he is worthless. A culture built on soulless success has raised a generation of men to believe they are anonymous unless they accumulate money or fame, with women being yet another prized possession that accrues to the alpha male.

TRAINED TO feel like they are important only through professional achievement, these men are clueless about being in a relationship. They know how to master rather than relate, how to conquer rather than open up, how to manipulate rather than connect.

For the man to whom power is an aphrodisiac, paying a woman for sex becomes an erotic thrill. And men with low self-esteem are profoundly susceptible to women who are not their wives.

The man who sees himself as a loser sees the woman dumb enough to marry him as a loser squared. His wife's affection, therefore, cannot make him feel like a winner. It is only the woman to whom he is not married, the one that has not been devalued through a merger with a failure, that can make him feel consequential. And a woman who is so desirable that a night with her can set you back thousands of dollars can make a guy feel like a million bucks.

Bill Clinton may have been the most powerful man in the world. But all that power could not inflate an ego so punctured that it sought significance in a liaison with an all-too-ordinary intern who understood the depth of his need to feel good about himself.

LAST WEEK in Los Angeles I debated my dear friend Dennis Prager, the brilliant radio host and public intellectual, on whether men or women are more responsible for the breakdown of the American family. I argued that broken men are undermining their families; Dennis claimed that the blame was equally shared.

Now Dennis has always been a mentor to me. But, come on! You have to be blind not to see that men are in crisis. They are three times more likely to cheat on a spouse, eight times more likely to abandon their children (how often do you hear of a dead-beat Mom?), commit 98 percent of all violent crimes, and stand a decent chance of becoming porn addicts.

Even if they overcome the porn, they usually end up sports and TV addicts, who spend, on average, three hours per day in front of the tube. And that's three hours where they are not helping with the dishes, putting the kids to sleep, or being with their wives.

Sex for men has become a game of mastery rather than intimacy. A shocking statistic from the US Center for Disease Control and Prevention, published providentially on the same day of the outbreak of the Spitzer scandal, showed that one in four female American teens has an STD. Millions of teenage boys are pushing girls to have sex well before their bodies are ready, and without any kind of protection. Sexual scandals among powerful men should likewise spur us to action.

THE SOLUTION is to set a new definition of success among American men that is dependent not on becoming the competent governor of a state, but on becoming the responsible head of a household. The great man is not only he who can balance state budgets but he who helps his children with their algebra. Not he who hits home runs, but he who runs home to be with his family. Not he who wins primaries, but he who makes his wife and his children primary.

In this political season, it is in vogue to believe that pulling a lever for a particular candidate will bring us the change we desire. But it is we who have to change. America is not wanting in talented senators and industrious politicians. Rather, it is wanting in loving husbands and devoted fathers.

In the final analysis, what the people of New York think of Elliot Spitzer is not nearly as important as what his wife and children think of him. Because you are not a success in life if the people who mean the most to you think the least of you.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: boteach; drlaura; psychology; spitzer
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Dueling pundits, Shmuley vs Dr. Laura.

His opionion base on the false assumption that our's is the firstculture built on soulless success has raised a generation of men to believe they are anonymous unless they accumulate money or fame, with women being yet another prized possession that accrues to the alpha male. of that this is the first generation to deal with the age old temptations of enlarged, misdirected egos.

1 posted on 03/16/2008 12:41:06 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Because having sex with $4000/hr hookers is a perk for the rich and powerful. The Shah of Iran used to fly in hookers from Switzerland.


2 posted on 03/16/2008 12:43:56 PM PDT by Perdogg (Reagan would have never said "She's my girl")
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To: SJackson
“These days, women don't spend a lot of time thinking about how they can give their men what they need.”

Needy, needy men? C’mon! Women are too busy taking care of themselves, the kids, the job, etc. these days to be worried about their “needy” man. I doubt Spitzer needed anything but to continue his obsessive power trip.

3 posted on 03/16/2008 12:47:06 PM PDT by Melinda
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To: SJackson
Powerful men like Spitzer are especially susceptible to the irrational self-loathing that is increasingly affecting the American male.

To an ordinary sod, it looked like the Governor of the State of New York was just doin' the horizontal bop with a fancy whore. To the more sensitive soul, like Shmuley Boteach, it was actually a cry for help.

4 posted on 03/16/2008 12:48:35 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
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To: SJackson

“They are three times more likely to cheat on a spouse, eight times more likely to abandon their children (how often do you hear of a dead-beat Mom?), commit 98 percent of all violent crimes, and stand a decent chance of becoming porn addicts.”

What a bunch of BS particuarly the abandoning the kids part. Define “abandoning - does a Dad whose kids are taken away from him by a spiteful ex fall under that column? What about the fact that women initiate the VAST majority of divorces often times for no reason other than boredom?


5 posted on 03/16/2008 12:48:35 PM PDT by KantianBurke (President Bush, why did you abandon Specialist Ahmed Qusai al-Taei?)
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To: SJackson
"Greg, ask the box what we should do now."

Greg has my permission to cheat.

6 posted on 03/16/2008 12:48:59 PM PDT by martin_fierro (I'M NOT DEAD YET!)
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To: SJackson

In the Middle Ages, judges convicted of taking bribes were sometimes condemned to be flayed alive. But, this is neither the middle ages nor was Spitzer a judge, so we should be merciful: There must be some Gambino-family soldier rotting away in some federal pokey who’d welcome a new prison “wife”.


7 posted on 03/16/2008 12:49:41 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Huckaboob will never be Vice President.)
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To: SJackson
Speaking on the Today show, Dr. Laura opined: "When the wife does not focus in on the needs and the feelings sexually, personally, to make him feel like a man, to make him feel like a success, to make him feel like our hero, he's very susceptible to the charm of some other woman making him feel what he needs. These days, women don't spend a lot of time thinking about how they can give their men what they need."

Seems like a reasonable argument in this day and age. Maybe it's true in Spitzer's case. Who knows?

8 posted on 03/16/2008 12:50:29 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: SJackson

Dr. Laura never addressed any of her remarks specifically to the Spitzers. In fact, she went out of her way to say she would NOT talk about them because she did not know them. She spoke generally about marriages where men cheat. Unlike columnists who sit around on their high horses, Dr. Laura has treated a lot of couples in her time, and clearly she sees men straying in part because their wives stop trying.

The other thing is, no one knows the innards of the Spitzer marriage except them. For all we know, Mrs. Spitzer knew about her husband or turned a blind eye to it all in exchange for the power and status he brought her. She had her own office in the statehouse in Albany and apparently saw herself as a player of some sort. For all we know, that “grief-stricken” look on her face was her response to her loss of power.

Eliot Spitzer, the governor of NY, blows tens of thousands of dollars on whores but Dr. Laura is the “bad guy”—??

Gimme a break.


9 posted on 03/16/2008 12:52:53 PM PDT by CZB
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To: SJackson
Men today are cheating not because their wives do not love them, but because they do not love themselves; not because their wives are not caring, but because their perforated sense of self is immune to affection.

I think that Dr. Laura has a point in spite of the psychobabble above. However, what Dr. Laura is saying is probably a percentage of the time; how large that percentage is, we do not know. Relationships are complex and changing over the period of a lasting marriage. The relationships between couples is too complex and dynamic to generalize.

Most of what the writer of this article seems to me to apply to Democrats and others with disordered minds.

10 posted on 03/16/2008 12:54:47 PM PDT by olezip
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To: Perdogg

actually it was Sweden.

ummmm Sweden


11 posted on 03/16/2008 12:56:17 PM PDT by jabotinsky ("I die with Jabotinsky's name on my lips" - Shlomo b.Yosef, moments before his hanging by Brits)
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To: SJackson

Nobody has a clue anymore. DrLaura was about to drop the show a couple years ago because correcting the society seemed a lost cause. Savage, the same. But they continue because what else is there to do. It’s over.


12 posted on 03/16/2008 12:58:35 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: SJackson
It is only the woman to whom he is not married, the one that has not been devalued through a merger with a failure, that can make him feel consequential.

So a drug addicted airhead makes him feel like a man? This Spitzer is a fool, he could have found a better looking and more interesting woman at a local bar and it would have only cost him a couple of margaritas.

What may be true of the Gov is not true of most men.

13 posted on 03/16/2008 1:02:54 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Ideologues are impractical.)
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To: SJackson
For the man to whom power is an aphrodisiac, paying a woman for sex becomes an erotic thrill.

Thats all fine and well, Shmuckly, but some men pay for sex because they aint getting it at home. Does it take a PHD to know that?

I feel pretty sure Shmuckface doesent get out enough to know what goes on in the real word, outside of his PC journals and other misandryst literature.

14 posted on 03/16/2008 1:03:13 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: SJackson

Couldn’t he just be a horney, self-centered cad? Why all the psychological BS.


15 posted on 03/16/2008 1:03:25 PM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: SJackson
This author mis-characterizes what Dr. Laura actually said, probably on purpose. On top of that, the question is answered in the headline, which means the article is superfluous. Here endeth the lesson.
16 posted on 03/16/2008 1:05:26 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: SJackson

I think because some men are immoral.


17 posted on 03/16/2008 1:07:48 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: DTogo

Why would any real man need a woman to stroke his ego? Good Lord. If a man is self-confident, strong, self-assured, his wife should not have to play the ‘praise and adoration’ act.


18 posted on 03/16/2008 1:07:57 PM PDT by yorkie (The FEW. The PROUD. The MARINES. Semper Fi)
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To: jabotinsky

Well, according to this it was France.

He was one of the chief architects of Opec’s policies - he thought he could drag his people into the modern age - yet was surprised when the West refused to give him shelter when he needed it. (He who controls the oil, controls who our friends are.) He was also naive. The man was impressed by our Western ways, having gone to the Rosey, having partied with Gianni Agnelli in St Moritz, having used Madame Claude’s hookers and all that. But he forgot one thing. As it turned out, the most important: the power of religion and tradition.


19 posted on 03/16/2008 1:09:21 PM PDT by Perdogg (Reagan would have never said "She's my girl")
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To: SJackson
Then she must have been really neglectful of Robert W. Morgan, otherwise he wouldn't have put pictures of her naked on the internet.
20 posted on 03/16/2008 1:11:04 PM PDT by Excellence (Bacon Bits Make Great Confetti)
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To: SJackson
"Powerful men like Spitzer are especially susceptible to the irrational self-loathing that is increasingly affecting the American male.

O'Reilly is spouting the same psychobabble; that Spitzer has a "self-destructive" personality and "wanted" to crash and burn.

Bull!

IMHO, which is as valid as Bill's and Shmuley's, I am convinced that Spitzer's ego got so big, he believed himself to be Omnipotent (as opposed to impotent lol) and was convinced he would not get caught and even if he did, would be immune from exposure and retribution.

21 posted on 03/16/2008 1:13:09 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All)
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To: SJackson
God's way of saying Hello.....
22 posted on 03/16/2008 1:15:27 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: SJackson

Schmuly called a Catholic woman a PEASANT on TV during “The Passion” movie debate....he is below whale crap to me....plus being Michael Jacksons; good friend...YUK.


23 posted on 03/16/2008 1:16:09 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Yes to ALL that....plus Daddy Spitzer CHEATED to get his some the AG job and probably the Gov. job, so Eliot the John KNEW he didn’t really earn those positions.


24 posted on 03/16/2008 1:17:44 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SJackson

Heck, he was just ministering to her ala Jesse Jackson. hehe


25 posted on 03/16/2008 1:19:00 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (No mas Juan "Traitor Rat" McAmnesty)
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To: SJackson
Geeez.... The answer is far more simple than this. Men are biologically driven to spread their seed.

All else, is just an excuse and pointless exercise to explain away the affect of nature and evolution. That need can be controlled through force of will, but the will can be weakened by having "issues at home" or simply the easy availability of women that the rich and powerful have.

I would bet that almost ALL rich, powerful men have affairs. The do, because they can. Sad, but I think its true... but we do like to lie to ourselves about such things....
26 posted on 03/16/2008 1:19:36 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: SJackson

It’s because when money and power fall into the hands of the morally bankrupt, then they will use that money and power to do morally bankrupt things.

A person can seem to have “everything” but lack the most important, fundamental things: morality, humility, honesty, and trustworthiness. When you don’t have those things as a foundation, then it doesn’t matter how many other things you might have.

I am reminded of the lyrics to the song “Satisfied Mind.”
http://www.thewalkabouts.com/sat-lyr.htm


27 posted on 03/16/2008 1:26:30 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: olezip
Relationships are complex and changing over the period of a lasting marriage. The relationships between couples is too complex and dynamic to generalize.

I agree. Blaming either gender for the other one's cheating is like blaming the robbery victim for carrying a wallet. It's still the cheater who makes the decision to cheat instead of working on the relationship.

28 posted on 03/16/2008 1:26:51 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter.óWChurchill)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
O'Reilly is spouting the same psychobabble; that Spitzer has a "self-destructive" personality and "wanted" to crash and burn.

Away with the psychobabble horsesh*t.

Dr. Laura and O'Reilly must have both missed the lectures on Greek Tragedians from their freshmen lit classes. Spitzer's inexorable march into self-destruction was something straight from the pages of Sophocles or Aeschylus: an arrogant man brought down by his own overweening hubris. Nothing more. Nothing less.

29 posted on 03/16/2008 1:29:42 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.)
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To: SJackson

If it has a penis, then it is at fault....


30 posted on 03/16/2008 1:33:05 PM PDT by thinking
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To: martin_fierro

“Greg, ask the box what we should do now.”

Greg has my permission to cheat.

I hate those commercials where the naggy wife makes
the point. I immediately don’t want whatever it is
that is being advertised. Seems like the advertising
agencies would know this.


31 posted on 03/16/2008 1:35:36 PM PDT by RushingWater (Pres. Bush honors Mexican sovereignty over our own - Pardon Ramos/Campeon/Hernandez)
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To: Albion Wilde
"cheater who makes the decision to cheat instead of working on the relationship"

Why do you assume this? I know a guy whose tried everything he can over years and years. He doesn't want divorce as it will remove his connection to his kids and he feels that divorce is worse than cheating. His wife just isn't interested. Rather than put a bullet in his head an occasional fling seems to be a less damaging outcome.

Not everyone has the same kind of life that some of the moralists here do and judging others without being in their shoes isn't helpful. Some people have FAR more complex situations than others (like wife with medical disorder... and such).
32 posted on 03/16/2008 1:42:04 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: Perdogg
.... $4000/hr hookers is a perk for the rich and powerful. The Shah of Iran used to fly in hookers from Switzerland.

I pay less than one dollar for my hookers and I don't have to return them after one hour.


33 posted on 03/16/2008 1:43:22 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius

Yeah, but sometimes you get a bite and you have to throw them back.


34 posted on 03/16/2008 1:44:44 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: RushingWater

Oh, you’ve noticed that!

Nearly every commercial portrays the man as a slob or idiot, and his wife as the svelte genius.....

This has cost some advertisers my business for LIFE.


35 posted on 03/16/2008 1:45:48 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Melinda

Melinda, we men are all needy guys.:) We marry women who support our egos and who make us chicken soup when we are sick. It never bothered me that Mrs.Spitzer stood with her husband. What bothered me was that her husband allowed her to do so. Lately, we have had to suffer though the onslaught of TV pundits, each telling his/her own version of the established rhetoric. TV stations must have a file of such pundits: adultery experts, relationship experts, prostitution experts, powerful men/women experts, stay-at-home mom experts, and, ultimately, the former failed FBI profiler experts. lol Spitzer’s case is really not very complicated, at all. He was in a different city, away from home, and he wanted sex, and he wanted it with Christen. Period, end of story. :)


36 posted on 03/16/2008 1:53:43 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: SJackson
Isn't this guy a "spiritual advisor" and friend of Michael Jackson?

Frankly, as I see it, there are a number of reasons that some men will look for attention and/or sex outside of their marriage.

First off, quite simply, some guys are simply scumbags. Plain and simple. They just don't give a damn about their marriage vows.

Secondly, as Dr. Laura states, they might be looking for something that they're not getting at home. It might be attention, or it might be something else, i.e. sexual. If it is sexual, maybe it's something that he's afraid to ask of his wife. So, he looks for it outside of marriage. Which brings up another question: Why a hooker, rather than an affair. Maybe because it is just something sexual. Or maybe there's some sort of feeling that he doesn't want to have an affair: That it won't be as complete a betrayal if there's no emotional bond, outside of the sexual acts.

Which brings up another interesting issue. If Spitzer had been seeing hookers for years, what are the odds that his wife not only knew, but approved of his dalliances with hookers. The idea being that since they were just hookers, there was no chance that he'd abandon her for them, and she could continue her life as the first lady of NY, and maybe eventually even the first lady of the USA, without having to "service" Spitzer.

Mark

37 posted on 03/16/2008 2:04:52 PM PDT by MarkL
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
IMHO, which is as valid as Bill's and Shmuley's, I am convinced that Spitzer's ego got so big, he believed himself to be Omnipotent (as opposed to impotent lol) and was convinced he would not get caught and even if he did, would be immune from exposure and retribution.

I agree with you 100%. What was probably going through his mind was the entire Bill and Monica deal... "I can do no wrong. I've brought down some of the most powerful men in America. Nobody can touch me! And even if I get caught, so what? Look what that Arkansas yokel got away with!" Believe me, having gone to school in NY, many native New Yorkers look upon anyone else around the country, especially the midwest or south as "rubes."

Mark

38 posted on 03/16/2008 2:11:53 PM PDT by MarkL
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To: MarkL

Well said.


39 posted on 03/16/2008 2:13:58 PM PDT by Twink
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To: thinking
If it has a penis, then it is at fault....

Well, there is the old saying... "G-d designed man with two heads, but only enough blood to supply one at a time."

Mark

40 posted on 03/16/2008 2:14:13 PM PDT by MarkL
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To: yorkie
Why would any real man need a woman to stroke his ego? Good Lord. If a man is self-confident, strong, self-assured, his wife should not have to play the ‘praise and adoration’ act.

If the woman is 'acting' (faking it), there lies the problem.

A man naturally expects the woman he loves and is committed to by virtue of marriage to emotionally support him. If the person you love and who you assume loves you can't find it in themselves to encourage you and/or let you know they think you're special (to them, anyway), who will?

Enter the hooker, cute co-worker or next-door neighbor's frisky wife. Whatever the focus of his mistaken attention, a man who is deprived of emotional support and attention from his wife (not to mention, sex) will often seek and find solace somewhere else, even if has to pay for it and even if it risks destroying his life, as happened with Spitzer. None of this excuses adultery on the part of a husband but it does help explain why it happens. Unfortunately, many women don't like the explanation so they try to kill the messenger. In this case, Dr. Laura.

The male ego - a need for 'validation', if you will, won't be denied. Fame, power and wealth can't substitute for a loving wife that thinks her man is the greatest. If these other things could, powerful men would never get married...but they do.That many wives think they can do so with no consequence makes them part of the problem, which is Dr. Laura's point. A point dismissed and ridiculed by some but that also has a lot of male heads bobbing up and down in silent agreement and that should be recognized, not reflexively disputed based, mostly, on feminist orthodoxy.

That some folks seem to view a wife's sexual availability and emotional support for her husband superfluous to the man's emotional well-being demonstrates the validity of Laura Schlesinger's contention that society seems to have given married women the idea that she has little obligation to her husband and that he doesn't need or expect much from her because, if he's all that self-confident, he is his own best friend.

That kind of egotistical attitude in a husband will kill a marriage, fast. The 'praise and adoration' you sneer at should be mutual and should be expressed often, even if in sometime subtle ways. This kind of mutually appreciative attitude is what can keeps a marriage strong.

41 posted on 03/16/2008 2:14:17 PM PDT by Jim Scott (Time Heals)
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To: oldbrowser
This Spitzer is a fool, he could have found a better looking and more interesting woman at a local bar and it would have only cost him a couple of margaritas.

Um...he's the Governor of New York - he could do no such thing. He had to pay the huge premiums to keep his liaisons quiet.

42 posted on 03/16/2008 2:15:22 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Ann Archy

Ann Archy, I think you’re onto a major point here.

Politics as a profession tends to attract those who are narcissistic—and favor those who are willing to cheat.

Thus a high percentage of political men enjoy flexing their power for fawning adulation—and are willing to cheat to get it.


43 posted on 03/16/2008 2:18:19 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: oldbrowser

Spitzer is a fool, he could have found a better looking and more interesting woman at a local bar and it would have only cost him a couple of margaritas.
__________________
He wasn’t paying for the sex. He was paying for her to go away after the sex.


44 posted on 03/16/2008 2:19:10 PM PDT by lp boonie (Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement)
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To: SJackson

I think they’re both wrong. Dr. Laura is wrong to blame the wife. We don’t know what kind of a marriage it was. Maybe she’s a difficult wife. But that doesn’t excuse what he did. Few marriages are perfect. More important, we are, each of us, responsible for our own behavior, regardless of how much we are provoked.

Similarly, Boteach says that the reason so many teenage girls have STDs is that: “Millions of teenage boys are pushing girls to have sex well before their bodies are ready, and without any kind of protection.”

No, sorry. The boys may be pushing, but so are the girls. No one is MAKING them do it. They may be poorly brought up, badly educated in school, deprived of religious and moral training, but they still have to CHOOSE FOR THEMSELVES. There can be difficult circumstances, but people somehow have to learn to stand up for themselves and do the right thing.


45 posted on 03/16/2008 2:20:52 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SJackson
Whatever level of achievement he attains, it is never enough to quiet the inner demons that tell him he is worthless.

It should read "it is never enough to quiet the inner demons that tells him he is entitled."

Dr. Laura is usually spot on, but she dropped the ball on this one. Even she should have been able to peg Spitzer as an egomaniac.

46 posted on 03/16/2008 2:41:14 PM PDT by LiberConservative
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Why do men who seem to have everything throw it all away?

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men." - Lord Acton (1834 - 1902)
47 posted on 03/16/2008 2:45:53 PM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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Interesting responses. I think both pundits have some insights.

I think that what Spitzer did was self destructive. He has body guards who know what he does and there are tabloid's that would pay a lot for embarrassing the Gov of a large state. He had to know that no matter how careful he was, it was only a matter of time, before the truth would come out.

So, yes Spitzer was probably self destructive or so self centered that he believed he would beat all odds.

Next, why would a man with a wife and young children at home want to cheat on his wife for over ten years? I think that he was searching for something that he didn't get with his wife.

48 posted on 03/16/2008 2:50:33 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: SJackson
Why do men who seem to have everything throw it all away?

Because they do not see it as throwing anything away. They have allowed themselves to become evil because they have no idea what good or evil is anymore.

Nothing is bad if it gives me a moments pleasure.

Nothing is good if it causes me the slightest inconvenience.

This is their motto. Eventually it brings them down.

49 posted on 03/16/2008 2:51:07 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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i found only ONE set of things to call SURPRISING in the Eliot Spitzer fiasco

the ability of his inner circle to keep the sexual trysts secret or his ability to keep them from his inner circle

as a prosecutor and later as AG, Spitzer had the extreme ego, extreme hubris, extreme bullying nature, together with high-pitched moralizing (in a secular sense) that often are attributes of the mortally flawed high-and-mighty whose rise is often but an anticipation of their fall

the ‘people’ in NY remained the media’s sheeple as the media raised up spitzer’s ‘progressive-populist’ star, willingly, ignoring that the ends - going after ‘those greedy capitalists’ - must be justified by the means - the law - and NOT simply populist angst

spitzer readily illustrates the axiom that what goes around comes around

there really was no surprise - only a question of when


50 posted on 03/16/2008 2:51:29 PM PDT by Wuli
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