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The Allegheny Arsenal, Pittsburgh, PA
Posted on 03/16/2008 12:54:20 PM PDT by Salena Zito
In 1863, Pittsburgh fortified against Confederate army By Salena Zito TRIBUNE-REVIEW
From mid-June through early July of 1863, the citizens of Pittsburgh prepared for an invasion by the Confederate Army under Gen. Robert E. Lee. It marked the only time that Pittsburgh would become militarily involved in the Civil War.
The "Emergency of 1863" began when Major Gen. William Brooks, who commanded the U.S Army's Department of the Monongahela in Pittsburgh, received a dispatch June 11 that outlined a probable invasion of the city.
Since the start of the Civil War, there was always uneasiness that Pittsburgh, known as the "arsenal of the Union," would be a target. It was located less than 70 miles from the Mason-Dixon Line with strategic river and railroad transportation, a heavy manufacturing base, the Allegheny Arsenal and Fort Pitt Foundry, which made large cannons.
(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...
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The artillery duel that preceded Pickett’s charge (Gettysburg) was audible from Pittsburgh.
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I went to grade school at Arsenal School. This was part of the original foundry where the cannon balls were made for the Civil War. Only a few blocks up from the Allegheny river bank, I am told the river is loaded with cannon balls that were dumped to clear the land. These cannon balls are probably 10 feet deep in the riverbed or more.
They look a little like Roman castra.
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The Allegheny Arsenal, Pittsburgh, PA
That is quite a distance. Cannon can be heard a considerable distance and they had a lot of cannonfire.
Pittsburgh maybe, but the Confederate Army was headed for Baltimore.
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thanks, i forgot to put the links to the map and the story, duh!!
here is the story
http://209.195.176.250/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_547950.html
They are probably part of the secret Iron City Beer formula.
They are probably part of the secret Iron City Beer formula
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Nothing like a little bit of rusty iron to give a beer real flavor. The effluent from PPG Paints upriver give Iron City that smooth mellow flavoring.
“They are probably part of the secret Iron City Beer formula.”
Yep, cannonballs and remains of people that bitched about unions in this fine suburb of W. Virginia. Iron City Beer is part people :-P! And people thought Soylent Green was the only food made from people...
Plural of cannon is cannon! I hate it when people who write for their living have little pride in their craft.
Battle of Pittsburgh, WWII
The entire series was an interesting read in alternate history. The particular book in the link deals with the battle of Pittsburgh, which is Turtledove's analog to the WWII battle of Stalingrad. The US Army under General Ervin Morrell (an anagram of Erwin Rommell) defeats a Confederate army under the command of Confederate General George S. Patton.
You might find the book(s)...there were 11 of them... amusing. Lots of historical characters.
yes you have me pegged, i have no pride what so ever in my writing
In 1863, Pittsburgh fortified against Confederate army ^
Yours is a cross between FR & the Trib.
Nicely done, and some interesting background on the Second Civil War. ;^)
yeah i am a hybrid
Cool!
Cool...thanks for posting this.
All of that trouble for nothing since Lee’s real target was was the rail center in Harrisburg (to cut-off Philly and DC).
*hangs head in shame* Ok, I’m going to my room now, and no dessert. Argh.
Haha no shame man. Besides that you must watch John Adams and eats loads of sugar.
Your one of the few people in America to know that. How true. They actually never made it to Harrisburg. After Chambersberg they ran into resistance on the other side of the river around Lemoyne. They never made it to Camp Curtain in Harrisburg.
Today, we have the 2nd largest Civil War Museum in the US in Harrisburg. (Shhhhh, it's a well kept secret)
BTW, they made thousands of cannon balls in Harrisburg too and shipped them down the Susquehanna river. There was a problem though there compared to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh had the mighty deep Ohio river while Harrisburg had the low level Susquehanna River. So they had to use hundreds of small ships for delivery and they abandoned that effort.
Really?
Does Fort McKee have anything to do with the founder of McKees Rocks and McKeesport? (I’m just guessing that those two towns were founded by the same person.)
> The artillery duel that preceded Pickett’s charge (Gettysburg) was audible from Pittsburgh <
Simply not credible. Too far, and too many mountains in the way.
McKee was a general in the union army. McKees Rocks was name after farmer Alexander McKee who owned the bulk of the land where the town sits, McKeepsport was named after John McKee the founder of that city.
Western Pa was heavily settled by the Scots Irish and McKee was a very common surname.
And apparently I am chock full of useless information.
(P. 574) The Illustrated Battle Cry of Freedom - James McPherson
Gave birth to my second baby in Ohio General Hospital in McKeesRocks. Thanks for the info!
one of the oldest settlements in the eastern part of the country with bones found of settlers that dates back to earlier than Roman times
The phenomenon is called acoustic shadow, and has been well documented, not only a Gettysburg, but at at least eleven other Civil War battles, most notably at Perryville, Kentucky in October 1862. The physics are complex, but in short, because of atmospheric temperature variations over a battlefield, sound waves tend to propagate out much further than usual, but diminish to nothingness in the immediate area from which they originated. It’s pretty weird, and a number of eyewitnesses commented on it during the war.
Also, McKee Stadium in Jeannette is another, unrelated McKee. Even if they are home to the state champions. :-)
(I do know "Jeannette" was the name of this Mr. McKee's wife.)
The general category for the phenomenon you describe is tropospheric ducting, a common occurrence at RF and an occasional occurrence at lightwave frequencies (e.g., visions of Toronto sometimes seen in New York state across Lake Ontario). So without detailed scientific data to the contrary, I have no reason to doubt its occurence at audio frequencies.
My observations at RF over many years indicate that tropospheric ducts almost never form east of Pittsburgh into the Piedmont, due to the intervening mountainous terrain. I can recall only one such incident in the past 25 years, when Pittsbugh UHF TV stations came booming into the DC metro area.
So although the phenomenon is well-documented to have happened other times during the War between the States, I think the story about Gettysburg's cannons' having been heard in Pittsburgh is most likely to be an Old Wives' Tale.
(On the other hand, no harm is done if you and everybody but me wants to believe it actually happened. Too bad we don't have a bunch of weather maps for the first week of July 1863!)
As for the afternoon of the third day of the Gettysburg battle, when the cannon duel took place, the temperature was recorded at about 95 or 97 degrees. It was blazing hot, and the air was really heavy, resulting in the cannon smoke covering the entire field between Seminary Ridge and Cemetery Ridge. That night, after the survivors of Pickett's Charge made their way back to the Confederate lines, a big storm materialized and it rained hard for a couple of hours, drenching the wounded and instigating even more humidity.
The 5 o’clock boom of the 155 on Post every day was very loud at the barracks two miles away. But, right at HQ it was next to nothing. This has been noted so often that it has been a topic of physics since Galileo.
I love this stuff keep it going guys..and gals....
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