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Illegal Immigrants Cause Public School Crisis
Judicial Watch ^ | March 11, '08 | staff

Posted on 03/16/2008 1:51:39 PM PDT by T.L.Sink

While cities across the nation pass ordinances to seek relief from the devastating toll of illegal immigration, the nation's public school districts will continue suffering from the influx thanks to a federal law that says they must provide a free education to all children regardless of immigration status. There are an estimated 1.5 million school-aged illegal immigrants in the United States and the government spends an estimated $12 BILLION annually to educate them. The biggest chunks are spent by California ($7.7 billion) and Texas ($3.9 billion), where the situation has become a public education crisis with no end in sight. The Lone Star State's public schools have seen a huge increase in illegal immigrant Hispanic students with dismal Mexican and Central American education histories that are contributing to an overall lowering of academic standards across the board. Case in point: The Irving School District, located mostly in Dallas. It has suffered one of the nation's largest increases - 63% - of illegal immigrant students in the last year compared to a 33% increase in 1995.Mexican government statistics reveal that only 50% of Mexicans 15 and older have some elementary school education and working with them requires slowing down and teaching the very basics. Besides spending nearly $6,000 a year to educate each student, the districts also spend more than $1.5 million annually to pay bilingual teachers extra.

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The situation grows worse daily and citizens are paying ever-increasing taxes for bankrupt school districts, prison and jail incarceration, social welfare services, insolvent hospitals and the horrible human and fiscal ravages of the drug cartel.
1 posted on 03/16/2008 1:51:41 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink
(I'm formatin' like the BBC...)

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While cities across the nation pass ordinances to seek relief from the devastating toll of illegal immigration, the nation's public school districts will continue suffering from the influx thanks to a federal law that says they must provide a free education to all children regardless of immigration status.

There are an estimated 1.5 million school-aged illegal immigrants in the United States and the government spends an estimated $12 BILLION annually to educate them.

The biggest chunks are spent by California ($7.7 billion) and Texas ($3.9 billion), where the situation has become a public education crisis with no end in sight.

The Lone Star State's public schools have seen a huge increase in illegal immigrant Hispanic students with dismal Mexican and Central American education histories that are contributing to an overall lowering of academic standards across the board. Case in point: The Irving School District, located mostly in Dallas.

It has suffered one of the nation's largest increases - 63% - of illegal immigrant students in the last year compared to a 33% increase in 1995.

Mexican government statistics reveal that only 50% of Mexicans 15 and older have some elementary school education and working with them requires slowing down and teaching the very basics.

Besides spending nearly $6,000 a year to educate each student, the districts also spend more than $1.5 million annually to pay bilingual teachers extra.

2 posted on 03/16/2008 1:57:58 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: yankeedame

Who woulda thunk?


3 posted on 03/16/2008 1:58:40 PM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: T.L.Sink
I still have yet to figure out how any illegal alien can be a "legal resident" within any school district. Many public school systems routinely audit their student records to ensure that the students attending are lawful residents in the actual school district. Those who are not are kicked out.

This looks like yet another situation where illegals have more rights than legal US citizens/residents.

4 posted on 03/16/2008 1:59:32 PM PDT by pnh102
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To: T.L.Sink

That $7.7 billion is about half of CA’s current budget deficit. That probably doesn’t includ the busing to achieve racial diversity.
The schools have got to admit them, but the ICE can show up and bus them out. The parents would come and join them(in some cases).


5 posted on 03/16/2008 2:00:51 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: T.L.Sink; metmom; Tired of Taxes; wintertime; Aquinasfan

IMHO, they didn’t cause the public school crisis, but they certainly have exaserbated it.


6 posted on 03/16/2008 2:02:12 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Those in the national Republican leaderhip do the work of three men- Moe, Larry, and Curly.)
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To: T.L.Sink
Is this a new development for Judicial Watch?? Here in California and also in all the border states, the costs of educating illegals has been an ongoing problem for years. If, it won't happen, the feds would finally close the border and let the states take the time to straighten out their problems, this will never go way, just get worse. As long as we have presidential candidates like McCain, Osama, and Clinton who want to keep the borders open so they can get more votes, this problem will never go away. Hospitals in the southwest are being closed down due to lack of funds to pay for medical care for the illegals. Medical care they cannot refuse to give, no matter who the people are. Prisons in the southwest are overcrowded due to the point of exploding at the seams due to the illegals being incarcerated. Over 50 percent of the prisoners in our jails and prisons are illegal. Mexico's trash thrown over the border by their government.
A great way to at least get some money from the illegals is to tax or fee the money being sent to Mexico by Western Union. 15 percent of all money sent to outside countries would be a fair price for them to pay. Mexico's second highest revenue getter is illegals sending money to Mexico. We need to fix all this problems before this country turns into a third world sewer like Mexico.
7 posted on 03/16/2008 2:04:10 PM PDT by antiunion person (President McCain, what a disgusting phrase.)
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To: antiunion person
15 percent of all money sent to outside countries would be a fair price for them to pay.

Too low. I would start at 100% for any foreigner who cannot that he or she is not in the USA legally.

8 posted on 03/16/2008 2:06:38 PM PDT by pnh102
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To: T.L.Sink

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9 posted on 03/16/2008 2:17:47 PM PDT by SweetCaroline (Inside me lives a skinny woman crying to get out. But I can usually shut the #itch up with cookies.)
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To: T.L.Sink

It’s nice to see the Feds aiding and abetting a crime. Nothing new, of course.


10 posted on 03/16/2008 2:18:08 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: pnh102

Public schools require that you live in the district. That is all. Illegals must also prove that they live in the district. Illegals do not have more rights that US citizens in this case. Both legal and illegal students must live within the boundaries of the school district to attend the district’s schools.

Schools are not allowed to reject illegals based upon their illegal status. This is a ruling by the Supreme Court.


11 posted on 03/16/2008 2:18:54 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: pnh102

People like GWBush, McPain, Kennedy, “the bitch”, Obama are never going to ask for the changes necessary to stem the problem. The action must come from the state and local communties.
I’ll repeat: TURN-OFF the spiggot of benefits that this country provides those who come to this country illegally, and you’ll begin the get a handle on the problem. Until that is accomplished everything else is pure poppycock!


12 posted on 03/16/2008 2:20:16 PM PDT by boilinghot
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To: T.L.Sink

These numbers probably don’t include anchor babies.


13 posted on 03/16/2008 2:21:54 PM PDT by umgud
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To: T.L.Sink

>>There are an estimated 1.5 million school-aged illegal immigrants in the United States and the government spends an estimated $12 BILLION annually to educate them. The biggest chunks are spent by California ($7.7 billion) and Texas ($3.9 billion)<<

Something is wrong with their numbers. Those two (large) states spend $11.6 billion and the other 48 states only spend $0.4 billion?

It would seem the other states would spend more than that.


14 posted on 03/16/2008 2:22:00 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: T.L.Sink

In Prince William County Virginia, where a crackdown on illegals just started to take effect, 600 kids of illegals have left.

In Virginia, depending on whose figures you use, it caots $9000 a year to school a kid.

That’s a SAVINGS of $5,400,000 a year just in one county.

Guess what - the morons who want illegal aliens for their cheap labor and Democrat votes are now complaining that the loss means the schools will lose a lot of state and federal monies!

There must be a National Duh Award somewhere for these idiots.


15 posted on 03/16/2008 2:26:10 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: T.L.Sink

T.L.

You forgot to mention the horrific price paid by Americans whose loved ones and family members have been killed by drunk driving illegals and those murdered by illegals—at least 25 per day, on average. That’s over 9,000 Americans killed every year by illegals, one way or another. IS THIS ACCEPTABLE??

http://www.rense.com/general76/12am.htm

Check it out.


16 posted on 03/16/2008 2:39:45 PM PDT by levotb
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To: ga medic

And THAT is what must be overturned!! In the meantime, armed troops must be placed on the Border, the double fence funded AND interior enforcement by ICE doubled, tripled and quadrupled!


17 posted on 03/16/2008 2:42:56 PM PDT by levotb
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To: antiunion person

WRONG!! But your heart is in the right place, antiunion person! It should be a crime enforced by ICE and the FBI for Western Union to accept wiring money for illegals in the U.S. DID ANYONE EVER THINK OF SHUTTING OFF THE SPIGOT FROM WESTERN UNION?


18 posted on 03/16/2008 2:47:08 PM PDT by levotb
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To: ga medic

You are spot on here, also check out this legislation, which certainly infuriated me to no end!

McKinney-Vento Definition of “Homeless”

Subtitle B of Title VII of the McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act (Title X, Part C, of the No Child Left Behind Act) defines “homeless” as follows:
The term “homeless children and youths”—

(A) means individuals who lack a fixed, regular, and adequate nighttime residence (within the meaning of section 103(a)(1)); and

(B) includes—

(i) children and youths who are sharing the housing of other persons due to loss of housing, economic hardship, or a similar reason; are living in motels, hotels, trailer parks, or camping grounds due to the lack of alternative adequate accommodations; are living in emergency or transitional shelters; are abandoned in hospitals; or are awaiting foster care placement;

(ii) children and youths who have a primary nighttime residence that is a public or private place not designed for or ordinarily used as a regular sleeping accommodation for human beings (within the meaning of section 103(a)(2)(C));

(iii) children and youths who are living in cars, parks, public spaces, abandoned buildings, substandard housing, bus or train stations, or similar settings; and

(iv) migratory children (as such term is defined in section 1309 of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965) who qualify as homeless for the purposes of this subtitle because the children are living in circumstances described in clauses (i) through (iii).

Read the full text (77K) of the McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act.

For more information on determining homelessness, visit Determining Eligibility for Services Under McKinney-Vento.


19 posted on 03/16/2008 2:48:15 PM PDT by blaveda (blaveda)
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To: pnh102

You brought up an interesting point; my daughter lives in a school district that is well thought of and she had to show proof she lived in that district in order to enroll her son. I think that is where it ends though with the school, all they need to show is that they live in the district; not that they are legal.


20 posted on 03/16/2008 2:53:45 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: yankeedame

Besides spending nearly $6,000 a year to educate each student,
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The true cost is likely 2 times the stated amount.

In my state news schools are funded through bond issues and not counted in the annual per child school estimate. My county is building a 50 million dollar high school, and none of that 50 million will be reflected in how much it costs to educate a child.

Also, in my state all retired government teachers are considered retired state and county employees. None of their pensions and health care shows up in school budgets.

The same is true for police protections and many services such as lawn care. These are county expenses.


21 posted on 03/16/2008 2:57:25 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: pnh102

Welcome to Orwell’s world. Some animals are more equal than others.

Oink!


22 posted on 03/16/2008 2:59:26 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Oldexpat

That 7.7 billion does not include the anchor babies in our schools either. There is no way of tracking that since they are citizens now.
If you added in the costs of the anchor babies........it would be unbelievable.


23 posted on 03/16/2008 3:05:47 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Clintonfatigued
IMHO, they didn’t cause the public school crisis, but they certainly have exaserbated it.
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The problems of police enforced, compulsory attendance government indoctrination camps ( mis-named “schools”) have existed from their inception. The entire premise is flawed.

However,,,illegals are definitely putting pressure on an already immoral system, and it is costing all of us BIG BUCKS!

24 posted on 03/16/2008 3:08:58 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; bboop; bill1952; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list.
25 posted on 03/16/2008 3:18:09 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: T.L.Sink

How do they deal with the physical for entering school?


26 posted on 03/16/2008 3:19:51 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: T.L.Sink
The situation grows worse daily and citizens are paying ever-increasing taxes for bankrupt school districts, prison and jail incarceration, social welfare services, insolvent hospitals and the horrible human and fiscal ravages of the drug cartel.

And McCain's answer to all this? Why, amnesty for everyone! Especially the illegal alien gang members!

27 posted on 03/16/2008 3:22:21 PM PDT by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: ga medic

You are spot on here, also check out this legislation, which certainly infuriated me to no end!

McKinney-Vento Definition of “Homeless”

Subtitle B of Title VII of the McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act (Title X, Part C, of the No Child Left Behind Act) defines “homeless” as follows:
The term “homeless children and youths”—

(A) means individuals who lack a fixed, regular, and adequate nighttime residence (within the meaning of section 103(a)(1)); and

(B) includes—

(i) children and youths who are sharing the housing of other persons due to loss of housing, economic hardship, or a similar reason; are living in motels, hotels, trailer parks, or camping grounds due to the lack of alternative adequate accommodations; are living in emergency or transitional shelters; are abandoned in hospitals; or are awaiting foster care placement;

(ii) children and youths who have a primary nighttime residence that is a public or private place not designed for or ordinarily used as a regular sleeping accommodation for human beings (within the meaning of section 103(a)(2)(C));

(iii) children and youths who are living in cars, parks, public spaces, abandoned buildings, substandard housing, bus or train stations, or similar settings; and

(iv) migratory children (as such term is defined in section 1309 of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965) who qualify as homeless for the purposes of this subtitle because the children are living in circumstances described in clauses (i) through (iii).

Read the full text (77K) of the McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act.

For more information on determining homelessness, visit Determining Eligibility for Services Under McKinney-Vento.


28 posted on 03/16/2008 3:34:44 PM PDT by blaveda (blaveda)
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To: Tammy8; pnh102; All

I live in San Diego and just this past week, over 1,000 teachers received their pink slip.

The State and Counties such as San Diego which is the second largest school dist. in Calif is mega millions in the hole. Just the San Diego City school dist. has a 80 million dollar shortfall.

Why? First, the legal tens of thousands of Mexican students, many if not most won’t learn English.
So we cater to them.
Most have a lack of interest in schooling and by the time they have done their damage, they usually leave school by early high school.

Now for the thousands of thousands of illegals in the San Diego school system: First many get a bogus address on this side of the border. Many cross the border each day, and others are just here.

So, over 1,000 teachers in San Diego who just lost their
jobs have the illegals to thank.

It is the same story with hospitals here, social services, etc.


29 posted on 03/16/2008 3:55:48 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: metmom

physical for entering school?

heloooo, what physicals. The illegals are here with TB to Measles thanks to liberal laws you can’t ask or do what
was done years ago.


30 posted on 03/16/2008 4:00:24 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: T.L.Sink

The greatly understates the costs.

First, it ignores children of illegal immigrants, who are born in the US, and granted citizenship through a gross misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment. A very conservative estimate of the number of children of illegal immigrants in the US is 5 million.

Regardless of how one feels about this, these children obviously wouldn’t be here, if their parents had not first come here illegally, so they must be counted as part of the cost of illegal aliens, in the US.

Second, it understates the annual cost of “educating” a school age child in the US. Federal government statistics show that this was in excess of $8,000, per student, per year, in 2005. There has been inflation since then, and California, which has the largest share of these kids, spends much more. What’s more, a large percentage of these children require ESL instruction, which costs (on the average) 20% more per child.

This brings a conservative estimate of costs up to $50 billion, annually.


31 posted on 03/16/2008 4:03:48 PM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: metmom

Now if they’d just give me back the money I pay to support state churches (i.e. public schools).


32 posted on 03/16/2008 4:20:11 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: pnh102

I think so too. To cite just one example, why should the children of illegal aliens get in-state tuition breaks when a U.S. citizen from out of state gets none - even if the children of ILLEGALS were born here when just off the bus from Mexico City? I know if they’re born here they’re citizens but this is clearly an egregious double standard that gives them preference over citizens.


33 posted on 03/16/2008 4:26:10 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink
To cite just one example, why should the children of illegal aliens get in-state tuition breaks when a U.S. citizen from out of state gets none - even if the children of ILLEGALS were born here when just off the bus from Mexico City?

According to Section 505 of the The Illegal Immigration Reform And Immigrant Responsibilty Act of 1996, they can't. But that only applies to post-escondary education. And some states are weaseling their way around the post-secondary restriction.

34 posted on 03/16/2008 4:33:06 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: T.L.Sink
"There are an estimated 1.5 million school-aged illegal immigrants in the United States....."

This has got to be the most incredible understatement of all time.

There are at least that many in California alone. Nothing is being done to stop it either!

35 posted on 03/16/2008 4:35:06 PM PDT by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: Oldexpat

I was surprised to hear that even old RINO Arnold is becoming concerned now that the national guard troops are being withdrawn by Bush. Originally, he was opposed to their border deployment but now that Mexifornia is even more bankrupt than when he took office, I guess he’s finally figured out what one of his biggest financial liabilities is!


36 posted on 03/16/2008 4:38:15 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: SoCalPol

I think all the border states and some away from the border have the same issues- in varying degrees of course. I am sure California is really feeling the squeeze, just due to the sheer numbers. We have the same issues of students that are not interested in learning English, and end up dropping out that are not only a big drain financially but also are one of the main reasons that schools have a hard time educating the other students. If a teacher has say 10 students in the class that don’t speak English, and have a spotty school record meaning they are way behind in any language it will be really hard for that teacher to teach to their level as well as the other students. It is insane and I truly wish our politicians would wake up.


37 posted on 03/16/2008 4:39:28 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: SoCalPol

Yup, here in NYS.

They’d lie anyway.


38 posted on 03/16/2008 4:40:00 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: All
Headline?

1000's of fired California teachers go quietly.
Millions of citizens of Mexico living here deserve support more than us, says union official.

39 posted on 03/16/2008 4:43:55 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: 3niner

We also educate many students that actually live in Mexico. Mexicans who do not live here and never did- never even intend to ever live here will cross and have their babies for the U.S. citizenship prize. Then our country feels an obligation to educate them, since they are considered citizens. All along the border every single day thousands of students cross the border to attend schools in the U.S.

As if it is not bad enough that we are educating the students that live here- we educate many that live in Mexico. It just boggles the mind.


40 posted on 03/16/2008 4:45:45 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: T.L.Sink

while mexico laughs at us.


41 posted on 03/16/2008 4:46:06 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Wolfie

It’s nice to see the Feds aiding and abetting a crime. Nothing new, of course...

not just the feds....thank jorge bush!!!!


42 posted on 03/16/2008 4:50:51 PM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: T.L.Sink
That $7.7bil Calif spends on illegal immigrant education would go a long way toward bridging the current $14bil deficit.

Add in health care, the cost of crime and imprisonment...food stamps and welfare...and you have closed the gap.

It's a MONUMENTAL crime to allow these parasites to stay here.

43 posted on 03/16/2008 4:52:37 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Clintonfatigued

I agree. There are a multitude of reasons why the public school system is failing but right now one of the biggest is that the illegal invasion is forcing the financial collapse of more and more districts every day. It’s a crisis that can’t be put on the back burner because the huge illegal invasion and its costs are exponential - we’re being swamped!


44 posted on 03/16/2008 4:55:19 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: antiunion person

I get the sense that you’re aware of this crisis more than most of us are, probably because you’re on the front line in CA. I think your ideas are great - especially the one about remittances to Mexico from our illegals. Those billions sent from the USA to Mexico not only prop up Mexico’s corrupt government but encourage Mexico to facilitate exporting their illegals, criminals, drugs, and social degenerates to this country. I also agree with you about the bleak future given the prospective presidential candidates. I have a relative who is an M.D. and he’s seen first hand what’s happening in our hospitals and health care system and sincerely believes that if the trend isn’t soon reversed, we’ll have passed the point of no return.


45 posted on 03/16/2008 5:25:11 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: pnh102
The genius politicians want to give amnesty to more than 20 million illegals just in time to collect welfare when the economy slides toward recession. I'm sure most Americans won't mind the extra competition in a shrinking job market or the higher taxes they have to pay for their new neighbors.
46 posted on 03/16/2008 5:33:22 PM PDT by peeps36 (OUTLAWED WORDS--INSURGENT,GLOBAL WARMING,UNDOCUMENTED WORKER,PALESTINIAN,TERMINATED PREGNANCY)
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To: Wolfie

I know, and it’s very depressing. It seems that we have a government that is run by special interest groups - racial and ethnocentric pressure groups, business lobbies (U.S. Chamber of Commerce, et al.),who love those low wages with no benefits, politicians who are pandering to the illegals for votes, and a political establishment that is oblivious to the facts. To cite only one example: Robert Rector of Heritage in ‘06 announced the results of an exhaustive study that is considered the most comprehensive, scholarly, and objective research into what the the effects of continued illegal immigration would have on the United States twenty years from now. The consequences would be devastating - including the collapse of the entire social and economic infrastructure of the United States. Some politicians like Sen. Jeff Sessions quoted from his report in the Senate. But, on the whole, this and other dire warnings have been deliberately ignored. I’m afraid we’ll get serious only when it’s too late.


47 posted on 03/16/2008 5:55:40 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: umgud

They don’t include anchor babies. But several constitutional scholars have written articles contending that the Fourteenth Amendment did not, by original intent, intend to make such as anchor babies citizens. It all has to do with the clause “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.” It would take too much time and space to go into specifics now but if you’d like to know about it, let me know.


48 posted on 03/16/2008 6:17:14 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: Wolfie
It’s nice to see the Feds aiding and abetting a crime. Nothing new, of course.

Forget Osama bin Laden. The Feds are a bigger danger to my wife and kids.

49 posted on 03/16/2008 6:22:24 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.)
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To: gondramB

I see what you mean and I can only guess the there has been some confusion between state and federal expenditures. Upon reviewing the article there seems to be some confusion there as in such phrases as the state and federal governments. I don’t know but thanks for pointing that out.


50 posted on 03/16/2008 6:42:05 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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