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The LAPD's Assault On SWAT (MultiCult PC Endangers Public Safety)
Los Angeles Times ^ | March 16, 2008 | Robert C.J. Parry

Posted on 03/16/2008 2:18:41 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

The LAPD's assault on SWAT

Would you rather have an elite fighting force made up of the best cops, or of officers who 'look like L.A.'?

By Robert C.J. Parry

March 16, 2008

On a Sunday afternoon in the summer of 2005, Jose Peña fueled himself with cocaine and grabbed a 9-millimeter pistol. Waving the gun at the head of his 19-month-old daughter, Suzie, he told the LAPD officers who arrived at the scene that he was Tony Montana -- the character played by Al Pacino in "Scarface" -- and that he was going to kill his daughter and himself. He'd already shot at her sister and at the police, so the threat was believable.

The situation was straightforward: If an LAPD SWAT crisis negotiator couldn't dispel Peña's narcotic fantasies, the little girl's life would rest with a SWAT rescue team's ability to cross a 50-foot alley, access the building, find and enter the room he was in and save Suzie before Peña pulled the trigger.

Now imagine for a moment that you were in Suzie Peña's position. Would you want the police SWAT team coming through the door to be the best of the best -- the toughest, most highly trained, most elite tacticians in the Los Angeles Police Department -- or would you want the team to "look like L.A."? Would you want rescuers who had not lost a hostage in three decades, or would you want a team with heartwarming, multicultural diversity?

The answer is pretty obvious, no? You'd want the best. That's what Suzie got, and even so, the results were tragic. According to the L.A. district attorney's office, Jose Peña emerged from the building and a gunfight ensued.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; diversity; lapd; leo; liberalism; losangeles; menace2society; multicult; pc; swat
These stupid liberal social engineering policies created in the name of diversity and self esteem will be the death of us all.

I was very surprised that this op-ed even ran in the L.A. Slimes er, I mean Times.

Then again, the author, Robert C.J. Perry, submitted this as an independent op-ed and he has no connection to the L.A. Times editorial board.

The commie propagandists in the newsroonm and editorial board over there must have thrown a collective hissy fit-tantrum after this was published....

1 posted on 03/16/2008 2:18:42 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER

“Would you rather have an elite fighting force made up of the best cops”

Uhhhh why would we want an “elite fighting force” as law enforcement???


2 posted on 03/16/2008 2:22:47 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver
To take care of bad guys with guns. There are criminals out there who need to be taken care of.

I guess we need the cops just to talk with them.

3 posted on 03/16/2008 2:32:30 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: driftdiver

“Uhhhh why would we want an “elite fighting force” as law enforcement???”

Good question. Kind of like when grabbers say that “assault weapons” are only good for killing large numbers of people so only the cops should have them.

I have to ask them “is that before or after they’re read their rights?”


4 posted on 03/16/2008 2:37:37 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: riverrunner

Thank you riverrunner, it took a full 10 minutes for an answer to a stupid question.


5 posted on 03/16/2008 2:38:40 PM PDT by Haddit (A Hunter Conservative)
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To: DogByte6RER
The libertine cop-haters will be out in force on this thread. Mark my words.

I have seen a distinct tendency in our society for our fighting men in the Military and our Public Safety Personnel to be trashed at every opportunity.

Liberals usually do the former, libertines usually do the later.

They are both cut from the same cloth.

6 posted on 03/16/2008 2:41:46 PM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: Haddit

“Thank you riverrunner, it took a full 10 minutes for an answer to a stupid question.”

Thats far from a stupid question and the fact that you don’t even realize what you are endorsing is quite scary.

When the military acts as a nations police force that nation is not free. The only difference between the military and SWAT teams is the spelling of their name. Oh and the military usually has tighter restrictions on the use of force.


7 posted on 03/16/2008 2:44:19 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: DogByte6RER

Human slaughter at the altar of Political Correctness is apparently A-OK.


8 posted on 03/16/2008 2:44:53 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

“I have seen a distinct tendency in our society for our fighting men in the Military and our Public Safety Personnel to be trashed at every opportunity.”

HA!


9 posted on 03/16/2008 2:45:13 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: DogByte6RER

I suppose the SWAT Team should be “diversified and be culturally sensiative”. The office of dversity should be sure this happens. The mayor should also come out in favor of having illegal alliens on the team as well. They should have at least several fat black women on there as well.
If there are any whites left on LA they can be tokens.

This should of course be confined to LA and the rampart division.


10 posted on 03/16/2008 3:00:47 PM PDT by longun45 (There is no difference between a republocrat and a demican, time to kick them both out.)
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To: freedomwarrior998
LA SWAT, "elite

fighting force".

snicker.

Veritable Legionnaires. (Praetorians more likely, and late empire ones at that)

11 posted on 03/16/2008 3:03:48 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: longun45

Jeasus, next they’ll be letting in darkies in the Army. After all, SWAT training is oh so mentally and physically challenging.


12 posted on 03/16/2008 3:06:18 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: driftdiver
Oh and the military usually has tighter restrictions on the use of force.

I don't know what you base that statement on.

From the stats stated in this article I would say it reflects a great deal of restraint by SWAT in LA, mainly because of gang activity and the sheer number of nut cases in a large population.

Over 3,800,000 in 2003

13 posted on 03/16/2008 3:09:22 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

“From the stats stated in this article I would say it reflects a great deal of restraint by SWAT in LA, mainly because of gang activity and the sheer number of nut cases in a large population.”

So I should be thankful that the swat team hasn’t determined it necessary to kill me yet?

The police are not the same as the military. They shouldn’t have the same weapons, tactics or training. But they do and even use many of the same recruiting tactics for groups like swat. As a result they get the nut cases who want to play with the automatic weapons and be a part of the pseudo military team.

But anyone who so much as questions something the police do is immediately labeled a cop hater and worse. The cops seem to to feel they are not only above the law but above any oversight.


14 posted on 03/16/2008 3:29:35 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

HA!


15 posted on 03/16/2008 3:34:09 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: freedomwarrior998

They are both cut from the same cloth.
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I take it you are blind , otherwise you could easily see that our military protects our rights and their detractors are the socialist despotic democrat types while our police forces attract detractors because their overreaching for a nanny-police state ala “Atlas Shrugged” does the opposite, they tear down our rights. Hardly “cut from the same cloth” those groups you speak of are exact mirror-images of each other.


16 posted on 03/16/2008 5:34:11 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: driftdiver
Thats far from a stupid question and the fact that you don’t even realize what you are endorsing is quite scary.

I see nothing particularly scary about the government being able to focus a lot of power against a particular individual, especially in things like hostage situations. What is scary is not the ability of 'real' SWAT teams to focus and apply such force, but rather the proliferation of pseudo-SWAT teams.

Freedom does not require that every individual be able to withstand all the forces of government combined. Freedom requires merely that the government not be able to overpower more than a certain critical mass of people.

17 posted on 03/16/2008 5:40:01 PM PDT by supercat
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To: freedomwarrior998

I have been called a cop-hater many times on this board. I resent that cops are held to a different standard than citizens, and I believe SWAT teams are an extremely dangerous erosion of liberty when misused, which is most of the time in my opinion. Busting someone’s door down at 3AM with 20 hyped-up cops on adrenaline, so they can “transfer the risk to the suspect” and prevent an ounce of powder from being flushed down the toilet is abusive, stupid, dangerous, and often fatal to innocents, especially when the cops get the address wrong, which happens distressingly often.

However, when there is an active shooter, or a hostage situation - either of which places innocents in imminent danger - then and only then should SWAT teams be dispatched. In fact, that’s why SWAT teams were originally formed.

I have zero argument with a SWAT team going in after someone who credibly is threatening to shoot an innocent. More power to them - if only they could confine their use of that power to such circumstances.


18 posted on 03/16/2008 6:00:34 PM PDT by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: supercat

“Freedom does not require that every individual be able to withstand all the forces of government combined. Freedom requires merely that the government not be able to overpower more than a certain critical mass of people.”

That was very well said and thought out.


19 posted on 03/16/2008 6:00:39 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: DogByte6RER

Dont expect too many here to choose the “elite fighting force.” I have said it before and say it again, many who post here are not the best friends of cops or the tactics that are necessary to be successful in law enforcement.


20 posted on 03/16/2008 6:01:36 PM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
I have said it before and say it again, many who post here are not the best friends of cops or the tactics that are necessary to be successful in law enforcement.

All depends how you measure "success", I guess. Do you consider breaking down someone's door at 2am without first verifying the address to be a tactic that is necessary to be successful in law enforcement?

21 posted on 03/16/2008 6:09:41 PM PDT by supercat
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To: driftdiver
When used for legitimate purposes SWAT team have a place in the police arsenal.

When use improperly they are no better then the crooks themselves sometimes even worse.

Whats the solution do away with a lot of the laws most people find a need to violate. Mainly gun laws and drug laws If they only went after murders, rapist robbers and the like we all would lose a lot less sleep over their use.

22 posted on 03/16/2008 6:09:48 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Waco.


23 posted on 03/16/2008 9:05:24 PM PDT by TXnMA (Don't vote for McCain. Vote AGAINST the Democrats!!!)
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To: TXnMA

One hostage death in 35 years.

I suppose if you look for the negative, you can find it. And that is what happens dealing with cops here on Free Republic in many cases.


24 posted on 03/17/2008 4:31:09 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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