Skip to comments.Jeremiah Wright's Inspiration? Malcom X and "Roosting Chickens" - God's Judgement of White America
Posted on 03/16/2008 8:26:59 PM PDT by GVnana
God's Judgement of White America (The Chickens Come Home to Roost) Malcolm X, edited by Imam Benjamin Karim
December 4 , 1963
note - this speech was delivered before Malcolm left the Nation of Islam and accepted true Islam -- so his views in this speech do not reflect his own or those he held near the end of his life.
This speech is sometimes called "The Chickens Come Home To Roost," because of an answer Malcolm X gave in response to a question following the speech. The question concerned the late President John Kennedy. It was Malcolm X's answer, that the Presidents death was a case of "chickens coming home to roost" -- that the violence that Kennedy had failed to stop had come back to him, this resulted in the Elijah Muhammad silencing him. Malcolm X left the Nation of Islam a short time later.
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us that as it was the evil sin of slavery that caused the downfall and destruction of ancient Egypt and Babylon, and of ancient Greece, as well as ancient Rome, so it was the evil sin of colonialism (slavery, nineteenth-century European style) that caused the collapse of the white nations in present-day Europe as world powers. Unbiased scholars and unbiased observers agree that the wealth and power of white Europe has rapidly declined during the nineteen-year period between World War II and today.
So we of this present generation are also witnessing how the enslavement of millions of black people in this country is now bringing White America to her hour of judgment, to her downfall as a respected nation.
(Excerpt) Read more at malcolm-x.org ...
"And even those Americans who are blinded by childlike patriotism can see that it is only a matter of time before White America too will be utterly destroyed by her own sins, and all traces of her former glory will be removed from this planet forever.
White America should be asking herself: "What does God want for these twenty-two million ex-slaves?" Who will make White America know what God wants? Who will present God's plan to White America? What is God's solution to the problem caused by the presence of twenty-two million unwanted slaves here in America? And who will present God's solution?"
In The Weekly Standard, Andrew Ferguson writes on The Wit And Wisdom Of Barack Obama:
What is unmistakable is the creepy kind of solipsism and the air of self-congratulation that clings to his campaign. There is something happening, he says in stump speeches. And what's happening? Change is happening. How so? The reason our campaign has been different is about what you, the people who love this country, can do to change it. And the way to change it is to join the campaign, which, once you join it, will change America. Because this is our moment. The time is now. Now is the time. Yes, we can. We bring change to the campaign because the campaign is about change. We are the ones we've been waiting for. Obama and his followers are perfecting postmodern reflexivity. It's a campaign that's about itself. The point of the campaign is the campaign...
On his website the videos of his most acclaimed speeches have proved much more popular than the transcripts. As a candidate he fits a public that prefers the sensation of words to the words themselves. His speeches are meant to be succumbed to rather than thought about.
But what if you do think about them?
Among Ferguson's observations: Whereas every other shopworn cliche from Obamas stump speech is standard-issue bipartisan boilerplate recycled from Clinton, Bush, Kerry, Dole, Bradley, Gingrich, Dean and Ford, We are the change we've been waiting for apparently originates with the left-wing-radical-feminist-bisexual poet June Jordan.
03/16 11:34 AM
God's solution is for free people to live together in peace.
This whole “messianic” theme goes way back.
Ex-slaves?.. what ex-slaves?.. Nobody in America was a slave.. Except the socialism supported and advanced by most blacks.. Socialism is Slavery by Government..
True most in America are slaves.. Slaves to the givernment.. How can you pay taxes on something you own?.. UNLESS you dont own it at all.. but are renting it from the govenment..
Malcom X was a moron.. Oh! and what about some 500,000 white people that died for slavery and States rights.. 98% of the people in the southern Armies never owned a slave even one slave.. They didnt give their lives for slavery but for State rights..
How quickly they forget black slave holders, the Underground Railroad, jury nullification, the whole Northern Army, that the US put an end to an institution that’s existed for about as long as mankind.
It’s not like America invented slavery, or even that the majority of slaves taken from Africa even ended up in the US.
My ancestors came here to escape what amounted to slavery themselves in the old country.
Some of my Scottish ancestors came here under a work contract of sorts...
There were probably more European indentured servants than African black slaves. Most of Europe was still practicing feudalism. It was a tough life for most everyone.
And what about all the white (and Chinese) slaves that worked and died in America and in the West Indies before the increasing numbers of black slaves replaced them?
"Jeremiah was a bullfrog".
The actual title was "Joy to the World" by the late Hoyt Axton, a sorely missed country music artist.
* Music runs deep in his family. His mom wrote "Heartbreak Hotel".
1)Axton wrote the Jeremiah song;
2) His Mom wrote "HH"; and
3) Why some FReepers have been making "bullfrog" references to the chronically intemperate Irreverend Wright (never made the connection on my own).
It's like the smart boy besting his mentors. But not being intellectually honest about it.
I thought it was like the rappers whose raps are all about dominating other rappers and their inferior raps which are all about dominating other . . .
It would be, except this guy might become POTUS, and he is a well-educated, radical socialist.
Slavery as an institution has existed since time began. It was the British who FIRST banned slavery in the early 19th century, and was enforced by the Royal Navy. Abolitionist sentiment then spread to the USA about 20 years later. This, and the US Civil War, were the start of the end of slavery in the world.
It still IS practiced in some parts of the world. This notion that African slavery is somehow an American invention is just crazy.
MIDI - JOY TO THE WORLD (ummm, not the Christmas song)
I’ve seen FReepers praise Malcolm X.
Wonder if they will do the same for Wright?
Do you think Obama agrees with Wright?
sure sounds like his wife does...
and his association with Wright is long and intense
I for one don’t plan on moving on......Wright exemplifies what makes Obama tick.
If Obama were a 100% peckerwood, he’d be withdrawing right now
Chattel slavery still exists in the world today. I dont mean the kind you are referring to either...I mean the real deal. Actually legitimate ownership of another human being. AND on racial lines too. The world says nothing.
People on this thread are trying to put history back into perspective. I am not condoning slavery, but it was just a fact of life in history. Maybe it was a hold over from Rome or from the mid-east. All I know is that AMERICA was not the first country to have slaves AND.....Blacks were NOT THE FIRST SLAVES.
AND......how many MILLIONS of WHITE (whatever their ethnic background) people have died to end slavery of all kinds (around the world)?
No one wants to point that out in their battle cry during their racial hate speeches.
I'm glad to hear people step up an scream loudly about how wrong this so-called preacher and Malcom X and others that teach these lies, are and were.
I guess I need to answer this.
I don't know of any instance in human history where someone, given a free choice, would volunteer to spend their life in bondage.
If the black folk's ancestors hadn't sold them out to slavery
Slavery, like any other criminality, depends on greed, betrayal and sadism -- universal attributes along human history.
they would still be in Africa digging roots for food
African history, and it's cultures, are probably much more rich than you realize. There's a fascinating book, Skeletons on the Zahara a True Story of Survival. Lincoln called it the best book he ever read, or so I've been told. As far as eating tubers goes, Happy St. Patrick's Day. Have a potato.
They should be thankful, but that word is not in their vocabulary.
I think there's a lot of ignorance on both sides of this question. My father's people were virutally wiped off the face of the earth by the English. Their very names were outlawed, tens of thousands were put in chains and onto ships which were then deliberately sunk. I don't think the sole survivor of all this thought the American colonies were a bastion of freedom. It was just survival.
I think there are a lot of black people in this country who would be very surprised to find out that their ancestors were actually free men long before Lincoln's emancipation. If our education system weren't so lousy on this question, the fact that many "whites" arrived in this country as indentured servants (for all intents and legal purposes, they were slaves) would be better known. The average term of indenture was seven years, but we don't know how many people had that extended to 14 years when they couldn't pay off.
One half to two thirds of all immigrants to Colonial America arrived as indentured servants. At times, as many as 75% of the population of some colonies were under terms of indenture. Even on the frontier, according to the 1790 U.S. Census, 6% of the Kentucky population was indentured.
There's truth on both sides. Was the black experience in America different? Yes. Indentured servants were counted as individuals under the constitution for legislative representation and slaves were counted as 3/5ths. The Constitution specifically referenced both groups.
In the harsh realities of life on planet earth in the 18th and 19th centuries, their experiences may not as different as some would like to think.
The real blessing of America? We fix these things. We have the ideal of individual freedom. We have been responsible for creating more human freedom than any other nation in the history of the world.
Our perennial question. Are we going to honor this tradition or not?
Also, people forget who sold African people to the European slave traders in the first place. Here is a hint: it wasn’t a bunch of white guys.
They don’t want anyone to remember that!
This is how history gets skewed.
What is worse is that the practice continues in Africa. It is reported in UN himan rights reports, but the MSM rarely reports it unless it is a reeeeeeeally slow news day.
And, ain't it funny that those black nations are crying and screaming for the white "man" to fix that problem?
himan = human
(spell check is my friend, spell check is my friend...)
Was interesting to see Wright on Hannity & Colmes. He was defending his church officially promoting the ‘Black value system’ per Black Theology and Womanism.
I actually think Obama would be in more trouble if he were to put up that defense, and the rest of America actually looked at the tenets and teachings of Black Theology.
Makes me more certain that Hillary is the only threat we have left this election.
What happened to free thought and free speech? It sends a shiver up my spine every time I see a supposed 'conservative' start demanding that folks be punished for what goes through the mind of another, or for the related words that might be uttered from his/her mouth.
Should he be held accountable in society for the words that he speaks? Certainly. But 'hate crimes' are a strictly liberal invention to be embraced by liberals.
I think you're right and he's too clever to get that deeply involved.
Then I’m not sure where your head has been the last few years cause the government passed laws that made hate crimes illegal. This preacher is a racist and he’s preaching hate.
If this were a white preacher and he was preaching out against homosexuals you’d be hearing it from the media how he should be hung out to dry. Do you write those liberal media types preaching free speech?
Yes, I'm aware that there are laws and I have plenty of problems with them, one of those problems being that they seem to protect only selected individuals in society.
But for the purposes of addressing only your limited comments ... you think that just because liberals pushed to get some stupid law on the books that it is a good thing? Prosecuting people for the thoughts in their head and the words they speak is proper as far as you're concerned?
"If this were a white preacher and he was preaching out against homosexuals youd be hearing it from the media how he should be hung out to dry."
So you jump right in there with them and demand that Wright be prosecuted for words and thoughts? Take your example -- do you think that the white preacher you mentioned should be prosecuted?
You seem to be against liberals for what they do and how they act ... yet you are doing exactly the same thing. [shaking head]
Not quite. But don't expect you to see the difference. Later.
Difficult to see a difference that doesn’t exist.
Moslem's, treat women worse than most white slave masters ever did.
Raping women and then having them punished at the whip or worse, for a crime committed against the poor women.
Suicide teachings to young men and women, who have not even lived their lives.
Black on Black crime is up every year around the world, why?
Lets hear about the graft in Black communities causing it, Mr. Farrakhan! Lets have you account for your rhetoric of hate.
Obama's Pastor spread hate, instead of cleaning up his backyard and sides with the hate of Farrakhan!
Slaves, are the communities who are taught to live in hate, by such leadership!
My comment was to LilyRed and it's fine that you replied but could you at least stay on topic?
LilyRed made the absolutely absurd comment that blacks in America should be thankful for slavery and I responded to that comment. My comment was not concerning the fact that blacks were not the first slaves. Every idiot on earth knows that. Nor the fact that some whites have tried to end slavery. Anyone with any even basic knowledge of abolitionist history in the U.S. would be able to corroborate that.
If you want to refute the point I'm making, then fine do that. But please don't try to act as though what I'm saying is illogical or untrue or try so hard to change the subject.
I'd not heard of that book before tonight. Thanks for your post. I was so disgusted by lilred's post that I went back to read it again after I read yours but it's been removed. Thanks for quoting it.
I did stay on subject. And, if you were trying to make a point then you need to do a better job of it cause it wasn't obvious to me.
Funny, that's a common ailment among liberals.