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Farmers in Fear: Risk of Higher Wheat Prices Has Many in the Industry Scared to Death
NewsOK ^ | 03/15/08 | Jim Stafford

Posted on 03/16/2008 9:28:25 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Sat March 15, 2008

Farmers in fear

By Jim Stafford

Business Writer

Prices paid to Oklahoma wheat farmers for their grain have surged to historic highs, but the prospect of $12-a-bushel wheat at harvest has yielded a surprising side effect, said farm economist Kim Anderson: Fear.

The July wheat contract on the Kansas City Board of Trade closed at $12.21 Friday, down 44 cents from the previous day, but still hovering near historic levels.

So, what is to fear from wheat priced at three to four times what it was just five years ago?

"They are scared to death because their risk is so much higher than it has been,” said Anderson, a professor and extension economist at Oklahoma State University.

"The story here is not just that farmers are receiving three times higher prices than they did three years ago,” he said. "His cost of production is two-and-one-half to three times higher than they were three years ago, and when the cost of production goes up, his risks are three times higher.”

The inputs that have contributed to the rising cost of production include fuel, transportation and fertilizer, said Mark Hodges, executive director of the Oklahoma Wheat Commission.

"All of those are at record highs, as well,” Hodges said.

The rising commodity prices — most other grain prices are at historic prices, as well — have created a fragile bubble in the agricultural community, Anderson said.

Grain elevators are facing the prospects of opening wider lines of credit to make cash payments for the 2008 crop when it is sold in July. Elevators that permit farmers to "forward contract” their crop must meet margin calls — or interim payments — until the crop is harvested.

A major crop failure like the last two years would be catastrophic, said Mike Cassidy, president of Cassidy Grain in Frederick.

For instance, Cassidy grain is going to need a $10 million to $12 million line of credit this year after operating on a $2 million line of credit for the past quarter century, Cassidy said.

"You stumble your toe these days and you are out of business,” Cassidy said. "These historical high prices are going to radically change the way the grain merchandising industry operates.”

If farmers have forward contracted their wheat, meaning they have sold their crop in advance at a predetermined price, but can't deliver it because of a poor harvest, it will cascade throughout the industry, he said. Grain elevators will demand payment from farmers, who have nothing to pay. Banks will demand pay"It's a financial market,” he said. "There are billions and billions of dollars being invested (in grains). It's Las Vegas. It's not the wheat market.”

Despite all that, wheat growers are not exactly cowering in their fields, said Tim Bartram, a Logan County wheat farmer and executive director of the Oklahoma Wheat Growers Association.

"From a grower's perspective, we feel like (prices) are getting where they need to be or getting close to have a chance of making any money,” Bartram said. "I hear some rumblings from an elevator point of view, but if we stay (at these price levels) for a period of time, those issues will straighten themselves out.”

Farmers are more concerned with drought conditions and the health of their wheat than they are with $12 wheat prices, Bartram said. The financial situation leaves farmers more "nervous” than scared, he said.

So, has the industry said "so long” to $3 per bushel wheat for good?

"I certainly hope so,” Bartram said.

"If we haven't, then the price of fertilizer is going to have to come way down and the price of fuel has to come way down and we are going to have to say goodbye to a lot of wheat farmers if we get back down to that level.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agriculture; margincall; productioncost; stpatricksmassacre; unstableprice; wheat
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To: Osage Orange

Oh, I’m probably wrong. I am often. Thanks for setting me straight. ;-)


21 posted on 03/16/2008 9:58:19 PM PDT by yorkie (The FEW. The PROUD. The MARINES. Semper Fi)
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To: CaptainK

Sure. It’s not snowing at the moment. It’s a balmy 25F outside. And the wife finally went to bed so I can surf without the background yapping.


22 posted on 03/16/2008 9:59:23 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: yorkie
Me and you both..............

: )

23 posted on 03/16/2008 9:59:30 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots.................)
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To: PGR88

I think the point is that if there is a drought or a storm or something and the crops fail, farmers are in major debt. If they do have insurance the insurance companies are at risk of needing a bailout. Add a major crop failure and an insurance bailout to the current economic stresses and strains and you are talking about some really really scary stuff.

I think. I’m no money expert.


24 posted on 03/16/2008 9:59:33 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: SatinDoll

I’m sorry for that. Wheat is a favorite, here.

Can you eat corn? Corn tortillas can be used in place of wheat bread, I think.


25 posted on 03/16/2008 10:00:02 PM PDT by yorkie (The FEW. The PROUD. The MARINES. Semper Fi)
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To: GOPJ
Yes, oil price is high, which push up the bottom line pretty high for farming. Factor in side-effect from ethanol debacle(planting corn on what used to be wheat field,) we really have problems.
26 posted on 03/16/2008 10:01:53 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Moonman62
"President Weakdollar retires in 9 1/2 months."

And due to the economy hysteria, President Obama will take his place. ;-)

[A little of that way sardonic humor there.]
27 posted on 03/16/2008 10:06:29 PM PDT by familyop (Lowly, worthless male weekend warrior trash has-been with no degree.)
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To: CaptainK
the good news is that a lot of farmers are making a MINT no matter how they complain...people in the oil business are doing fantastic...people with mortgages attached to the prime are seeing their monthly bills come down a little....

some people are doing very well in this economy.....

28 posted on 03/16/2008 10:06:45 PM PDT by cherry
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To: yorkie
yorkie...I read that but we were in the middle of an inlaw having cardiac surgery...successful....so I didn't make it to Safeway.....

I am not net savy, but are there people who would like to post PRICES at supermarkets etc that are good value?.....we can all make it thru this recession/inflation/stagflation/depression working together.....any volunteers?

29 posted on 03/16/2008 10:09:56 PM PDT by cherry
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The root cause is inflation as in the dollar is worth less.

The fed is inflating its way out of the current banking crisis. Everyone who holds dollars (or dollar based assets) is the loser.


30 posted on 03/16/2008 10:12:45 PM PDT by DB
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To: TigerLikesRooster

So some people will make a lot of money by producing small milling units (grinders) for families and individuals. It’s time for victory grain gardens.


31 posted on 03/16/2008 10:13:18 PM PDT by familyop (Lowly, worthless male weekend warrior trash has-been with no degree.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I try to pay attention to what farmers are saying.

I don't. For years farmers have been bellyaching about low commodity prices, and have soaked the taxpayers for price subsidies to bring the market price up to the high level it assumed briefly during World War I. Finally, the ag sector has its wish: record high commodity prices. Why is this a problem? Costs are up too, but those years of low wheat and corn prices were at the same time years of low prices farmers paid for the commodities they used in production. Anyone whose business sense is not numbed by government subsidy can maintain a profit when prices are low and when prices are high.

If you ask a farmer in New Zealand why he hates America, the answer has nothing to do with Iraq or 9/11. It's because while he toughs it out in the free market, his American competitors are subsidized. Oh, and we limit imports of their lamb also, to keep farm prices high.

32 posted on 03/16/2008 10:18:12 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Why are we importing wheat?


33 posted on 03/16/2008 10:20:49 PM PDT by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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To: GinaLolaB

From a FR thread posted a few minutes after you submitted the above, and is presently listed right above this thread we are here on

Could it be? Someone may need to give that fellow some warm cookies and milk!

34 posted on 03/16/2008 10:32:40 PM PDT by BlueDragon (come on and sing it children (He's a stranger in a strange land) Whoa, sing it one more time)
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To: sagar
Not in the wheat mkts. Ethanol has nothing to do with wheat except insofar as it might affect the wheat/corn spreads.

This idiotic ethanol policy of the goobermint has indeed caused price increases in numerous mkts...but wheat has not been affected by this lunacy except very modestly, and indirectly.

35 posted on 03/16/2008 10:37:33 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I have thought all along that all this bad economic news was fear mongering on the part of the Democrats and their Main Stream Press enablers.

However, I have noticed over the past three years prices have crept, jumped and leaped higher and higher.

It seems a few short years ago prices would go up and then return to normal after a while.

But for the last few years those people I know who live on a fixed income have really started complaining about the rise in everything from medicine, fuel to groceries.

I can understand that many have good jobs, raises and vacation time but all of that is fleeting if the company you work for decides to raise share prices buy downsizing.

So before jumping on the old argument that it's just a bunch of people who need to go out and get a real paying job be very careful.

I am a believer that America runs in slow up and down cycles and then there is an adjustment.

I think the economy is trying to make an adjustment but the government is determined not to let real correction take place.

Bailing out every Tom Dick and Harry financial company reeks of Socialism.

Just the lowly opinion of a red state wannabe.

36 posted on 03/16/2008 10:40:06 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
His cost of production is two-and-one-half to three times higher than they were three years ago

Ridiculous exaggeration. There is no possibility that this can be true. Fuel is not three times more expensive than three years ago, and tractors are not three times more expensive. Perhaps this is true of seed or fertilizer but that cannot explain such a staggering increase in the cost of production.

I think the farmers are poor-mouthing because they don't want the public to yank the Federal farm-support teat away from them now that crop prices are near all-time highs.

-ccm

37 posted on 03/16/2008 10:45:09 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: cherry

Cherry - I have often thought of a running thread about just that - ways we can all get together and help each other. There are so many things we can do - and we have so many posters here.

I personally, have been stocking up for quite some time, now. All the necessities - with the possibility that the grocery stores could be closed for awhile.

I have a major supply of water, too - batteries, oil for lamps, etc. It’s just a security for me. I have always been like that. Guess it is because of the stories my dad told me about living through the Great Depression.


38 posted on 03/16/2008 10:48:00 PM PDT by yorkie (The FEW. The PROUD. The MARINES. Semper Fi)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Record grain prices....so it is time to phase out farm subsidies....


39 posted on 03/16/2008 11:25:59 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: ccmay

Fertilizer and other chemical costs HAVE doubled and tripled. Fuel prices have gone up about 30%, seed prices are through the roof (have nearly doubled).

I live right here in farming country, and the majority of our church members are farmers.


40 posted on 03/16/2008 11:33:42 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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