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Why Has The “Peace Movement” Failed
Flopping Aces ^ | 03-17-08 | Scott Malensek

Posted on 03/17/2008 9:13:03 AM PDT by Starman417

What is the “peace movement” doing wrong?

What is the “peace movement” doing wrong?

In late 2002 through early 2003, millions and millions of people took to the streets around the world and protested against further military attack on Iraq. They failed to prevent the invasion and removal of Saddam Hussein. Post war investigations and even interviews with many senior level regime leaders (as well as with his interrogator) 027.jpgshow that Saddam never believed the U.S. would have the will to go against the world’s anti-war movement. At most, he expected another Operation Desert Fox, and it wasn’t until the last few weeks or days that he finally recognized that the invasion was going to happen. What do you think might have happened if millions of people took to the streets and-instead of trying to deter action (as Saddam believed would be successful)…what if those millions had protested in demand that Saddam answer Blix’ 129pgs of “Unresolved Disarmament Issues”? Could the “Peace Movement” have better achieved peace by protesting against Saddam rather than against those who would later remove the dictator? Would the Peace Movement053.jpg be more effective if it protested against dictators, warlords, etc rather than representative governments?

Maybe the Peace Movement has failed because it’s embraced the very tactics that it alleges were used to start a war? Before the war, we were told by members of the Bush Administration that the war would be short, costs offset by Iraqi oil revenue, and casualties would be comparable to those of Desert Storm. Those claims were wrong. Opponents of the war often point to them as deliberately wrong, misleading, etc.; i.e. lies. Conversely, for the past four years the American people have been told that the Army was on the verge of collapse, that there was no way to continue the war in Iraq without a draft, that casualties are 50x higher than the actual number of bodies, that the cost is trillions higher than it really is, that the war in Iraq has nothing to do with the war on terror (despite the fact that 95%+ of the suicide bombers were Al Queda, and 80% of all civilian casualties were from Al Queda suicide bombings). Today’s Peace Movement seems to feel it’s ok to lie and/or mislead to try and end the war in Iraq in the same way that Bush Administration people are accused of having lied and misled to start it.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hippies; hippiessmell; iraq; looneyleft; moonbats; peace; soros; usefulidiots

1 posted on 03/17/2008 9:13:04 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Good post.


2 posted on 03/17/2008 9:13:47 AM PDT by jdm (Relax, it's just the internet.)
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To: Starman417

Why is Darfur of interest for so many liberals when Iraqis in mass burials are not?


3 posted on 03/17/2008 9:15:01 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Starman417

So why haven’t they Stopped Jihad Now?


4 posted on 03/17/2008 9:18:01 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: Starman417

5 posted on 03/17/2008 9:18:31 AM PDT by cowboyway ("No damn man kills me and lives." -- Nathan Bedford Forrest)
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To: Starman417
Because it's not a “peace movement.”

It's an anti-American, socialist bunch of misfits.

6 posted on 03/17/2008 9:20:15 AM PDT by Beckwith (Dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Starman417

Simple reason: It’s illogical, and most people realize that it isn’t practical, rational, or feasible. The ones who participate and believe in it are brain-damaged.


7 posted on 03/17/2008 9:21:52 AM PDT by nobdysfool (Taglines are so last year.....)
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To: Starman417

“A lie told often enough becomes truth” Vladimir Lenin.


8 posted on 03/17/2008 9:23:10 AM PDT by TNPatriot (No arsenal ... is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. -RR)
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To: Starman417

Old stoners tire faster now.


9 posted on 03/17/2008 9:26:16 AM PDT by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: Starman417

Looks familiar, but anyway, the Peace Movement, Inc has failed in its stated aim due to not acting on the true causes where they are, and been astonishingly successful in its unstated goal of attracting $ millions every year.


10 posted on 03/17/2008 9:26:50 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: TNPatriot

The peace movement failed because of just that ... a belief in Marxist drivel.


11 posted on 03/17/2008 9:28:25 AM PDT by Waverunner ( "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." Voltaire)
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To: Beckwith

Exactly.

Thank you.


12 posted on 03/17/2008 9:31:26 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: Starman417

How about, “because I don’t believe peace is their goal” when their methods are violent?

(ex. slashed tires, stolen flags, stolen election signs, cars vandalized, etc)

peace my @$$


13 posted on 03/17/2008 9:33:28 AM PDT by stompk
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To: Starman417

‘cuz waving signs and shouting cute rhetoric does nothing.


14 posted on 03/17/2008 9:36:01 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: Starman417

The peace movement has failed because no one is being drafted out of his soft, comfortable life to go abroad, fight and die.


15 posted on 03/17/2008 9:45:03 AM PDT by Publius (A = A)
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To: Beckwith
Because it's not a “peace movement.”

It's an anti-American, socialist bunch of misfits.

And, as we knew in the '60's, a cheap date.

16 posted on 03/17/2008 9:57:52 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: Starman417

I subscribe to P.J. O’Rourke’s theory of “follow the babes”. In the 60’s the hot babes were in the anti-war movement and Nixon gave them lots of Ammo and there was ONLY the liberal press.

Now take a look at the wide-loads, dumbasses, and poofters who congeal at these events... and it is easy to see why they don’t have any mass appeal- who wants to associate with losers!?


17 posted on 03/17/2008 10:01:36 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Starman417

the absence of war does not mean peace


18 posted on 03/17/2008 10:04:20 AM PDT by Disciplinemisanthropy (...and that, people, is what grinds my gears.)
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To: Starman417

Look at the pictures that accompany the post. It is a loose coalition of lunatics that haven’t met a conspiracy theory they didn’t like.


19 posted on 03/17/2008 10:28:17 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Starman417

Any movement which is comprised of the laziest among us is destined to fail.


20 posted on 03/17/2008 10:31:08 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Where are they hiding Obama’s white half?)
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To: Starman417
Before the war, we were told by members of the Bush Administration ...casualties would be comparable to those of Desert Storm.

I may be getting old but my memory isn't that bad. I believe during congressional debates, the Republicans (Rumsfeld??) projected something like 15,000 fatalities.

The dims were pee-in-your-pants afraid that hussein would use gas and bio-weapons and they insisted the number would approach 150,000 and wanted to be sure we had enough body bags.

By either standard, the invasion and past four years have been an outstanding success if the success is measured solely in fatalities.

21 posted on 03/17/2008 10:39:27 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Starman417

What peace movement?


22 posted on 03/17/2008 10:40:05 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Starman417

The failure of the mis-named “peace movement” actually is leading to the real possibility of peace in the mideast!

Thanks to the American GI.


23 posted on 03/17/2008 10:42:10 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: Starman417
The "peace movement" is at best naive and at worse traitorous. The pacifist premise that if we abandon all military options and "give peace a chance" might give us peace. Unfortunately that option might only bring the peace of the gulag or the peace of the grave. Islamic fascists for example do not want "peace" ...they want to kill you and your family simply because you are Infidels and obstruct the creation of a perfect Muslim state. No amount of kumbaya singing and balloons are going to convince them otherwise.

Others in the "peace movement" are simply the hate America first crowd and blame every thing on the success of the American system. To them the US ought to be brought down by forces internal or external to create a more "just" socialist/Marxist state.

24 posted on 03/17/2008 10:43:03 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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