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When predator is a woman, are rules relaxed?
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | March 16, 2008 | Cristina Rouvalis

Posted on 03/17/2008 10:13:22 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

Jason Eickmeyer was a 15-year-old sophomore at Hammonton High School in New Jersey the night he said he had sex with his gym teacher. From that moment on, he counted the days until he would be old enough to marry her.

Male classmates who heard the rumors would nudge him on the shoulder, he said, and give him a knowing smile. "I got respect," he said.

Two years later, after the police came to his house and took his statement against teacher Traci Tapp, Mr. Eickmeyer was shunned and mocked. He became a Jay Leno punch line.

Friends would ask him, "How could you say you were victimized by having sex with a teacher? She was hot. She was young. She was the best thing that ever happened to you."

Turns out, he said, it was the worst thing. He stopped going to many classes, dropped out of wrestling (his ticket to a college scholarship) and became depressed. And now the 20-year-old has sued the school district, the township and Ms. Tapp, who lost her job but served no jail time after pleading guilty to harassment by offensive touching.

"When we find out it is a male teacher having sex with a female student, he should be locked away and the key should be thrown away," Mr. Eickmeyer said. "If it is a female teacher, she isn't looked on as harshly as a male."

Is there is a double standard?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: naughtyteacher; naughtyteacherlist; sexoffenders; teachers
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1 posted on 03/17/2008 10:13:23 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Its a cultural double standard. Society expects girls to state chaste until they get married but boys are seen as sowing their oats to show their manhood.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 03/17/2008 10:14:56 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Is there is a double standard?

Yep, and you can see it right here on FR.

3 posted on 03/17/2008 10:15:04 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Only if she is guilty.


4 posted on 03/17/2008 10:15:32 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Pork, just bring the hot sauce!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Maybe you should ping all the freepers who judge the female molesters guilty or not guilty by their booking photos
5 posted on 03/17/2008 10:15:43 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: MEGoody
No kidding. Look out for those Cougars.
6 posted on 03/17/2008 10:15:49 AM PDT by BGHater ($2300 is the limit of your Free Speech.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
When predator is a woman, are rules relaxed?

Well only if they are 'hot'.

7 posted on 03/17/2008 10:15:55 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: MEGoody

I cannot make a judgement on this unless I see some pictures...


8 posted on 03/17/2008 10:16:01 AM PDT by Russ
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Ms. Tapp

You can't make this stuff up.

TTIWWP

9 posted on 03/17/2008 10:16:17 AM PDT by day10 (Rules cannot substitute for character.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The answer is “Yes”, and the double standard transcends just about every matter before the courts.


10 posted on 03/17/2008 10:17:14 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

When will the left....and a bunch of FR conservatives learn...

between men and woman....There IS a difference. to a 15 year old boy ITS A CONQUEST......


11 posted on 03/17/2008 10:18:04 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Of course there is a double standard. If we have to ask, the answer is yes.

Sexual women predators get a slap on the wrist compared to men doing the same. But they are just as evil as the men. They look at young people under their care as their personal sexual gratification cafeteria. But they hardly receive the same punishment for it as their male counterparts.

It’s absolutely sick and disturbing that we’d allow proper punishment to be given out because the criminal is a man, but not administer proper justice because the criminal is a woman. That isn’t justice.


12 posted on 03/17/2008 10:18:12 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Is there is a double standard?

Yes.

13 posted on 03/17/2008 10:18:19 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Is there is a double standard?

Is this a trick question?

14 posted on 03/17/2008 10:18:19 AM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

So..He was tapping Miss Tapp?


15 posted on 03/17/2008 10:18:40 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

yes its a double standard, if its a girl she’s a victim, if its male getting layed he gets high fives.


16 posted on 03/17/2008 10:18:41 AM PDT by Intimidator (Its not unilateral,just try saying you're a Progressive Dem in your typical Evangelical chur)
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To: Russ
>>I cannot make a judgement on this unless I see some pictures...

Ask and Ye shall receive..

17 posted on 03/17/2008 10:18:57 AM PDT by vikingd00d
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Most comprehensive account on Internet of women predators on campus

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=39783


18 posted on 03/17/2008 10:19:06 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: BGHater

*sigh* If only...


19 posted on 03/17/2008 10:19:20 AM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: vikingd00d; Russ

Not Guilty.


20 posted on 03/17/2008 10:20:00 AM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: vikingd00d

Not guilty!


21 posted on 03/17/2008 10:20:34 AM PDT by OSHA (The best NY Dems can do is #9?)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

22 posted on 03/17/2008 10:20:36 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Ms. Tapp:


23 posted on 03/17/2008 10:20:57 AM PDT by day10 (Rules cannot substitute for character.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Unfortunately, yes.


24 posted on 03/17/2008 10:21:52 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“Is there is a double standard?”


Yes, there is, and always has been, for a good reason:

Boys do not get pregnant.

True, there are other issues, but that is why the double standard exists.


25 posted on 03/17/2008 10:22:45 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: blackdog

“The answer is “Yes”, and the double standard transcends just about every matter before the courts.”

There is one standard, and it is a female standard, a day in divorce court, should reaffirm my comment...


26 posted on 03/17/2008 10:24:56 AM PDT by thinking
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To: Secret Agent Man
Of course there is a double standard. If we have to ask, the answer is yes.

Sexual women predators ...

For instance a male teacher would be referred to as a pedophile or rapist.

27 posted on 03/17/2008 10:25:18 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“Is there is a double standard?”

Duh. You had to ask.

There are double standards all over our country and world.

The way the media treats “African-Americans” vs white males, “liberals” and Democrats vs Republicans and conservatives, etc.

It goes on and on and on.

Some people “can’t handle the truth”.


28 posted on 03/17/2008 10:26:02 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: vikingd00d

Guilty.


29 posted on 03/17/2008 10:26:51 AM PDT by Sloth (Senator He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, D - Illinois)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Had it been a 15 year old girl having sex with her male teacher, the teacher would be in prison and permanently on a sex offender list. Obviously there is a double standard.
30 posted on 03/17/2008 10:28:18 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
FEMALE TEACHERS BUSTED
31 posted on 03/17/2008 10:28:21 AM PDT by paltz
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Well when I was in school any boy 14 or older was an animal, like a dog in heat but male. They had Roman hands and Russian fingers as we said about them. They had fast moving hands and you had to constantly fight them off. So I would think a 15 year old boy was a willing “victim”. The boys begged and the girls said NO most of the time. A few said YES and ended up PG usually.


32 posted on 03/17/2008 10:30:03 AM PDT by buffyt (Glowbull warming - Climate Change - the biggest hoax/fraud/deception of the 21st century.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“That isn’t justice.”

Justice is a process, not an outcome. Justice can result in different outcomes under different circumstances.

He is suing because, “He stopped going to many classes, dropped out of wrestling (his ticket to a college scholarship) and became depressed.”

Well, a 16-year-old girl did that to me when I was 16, without ever even giving me any.

Life contains a particle of risk. Sometimes yer heart gets broke in a zillion pieces, and the only thing you can do is hope that time indeed heals all wounds and wounds all heels.

When an older woman gives a boy some, it just ain’t the same thing as an older man seducing a young girl. No harm, no foul.


33 posted on 03/17/2008 10:30:03 AM PDT by dsc
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

There definitely is a double standard and there should be for the simple fact that in one session, Debra Lefave or that Pamela Rogers could rack up seven or eight felony charges in fifteen second intervals, where a guy an only rack up one a day.


34 posted on 03/17/2008 10:31:14 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Didn't they impeach the judge in Ms Lafave case?


35 posted on 03/17/2008 10:31:31 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: The Great RJ
Guess what, when I was in school some of the girls did have sex with the male teachers. The girls chased after the men. It made me very uncomfortable in history class when one girl kept hitting on the teacher, giving him back rubs and massages. It was later that I found out sexual relationships and dating occurred. I was shocked when I found out. The girls were 14-18 years old. The LAST thing on my mind back then would have been sex. My one main boyfriend back then never was like that, thank goodness, he never laid a hand on me, I guess that is why I liked him.
36 posted on 03/17/2008 10:32:25 AM PDT by buffyt (Glowbull warming - Climate Change - the biggest hoax/fraud/deception of the 21st century.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

DUH bttt.


37 posted on 03/17/2008 10:33:38 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (su - | echo "All your " | chown -740 us ./base | kill -9 | cd / | rm -r | echo "belong to us")
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To: day10

Not guilty, but deserves a bare bottom spanking.

;-)


38 posted on 03/17/2008 10:33:42 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
He also said Ms. Tapp's plea agreement concerned an incident with someone else, not Mr. Eickmeyer. But Police Detective Joel Frederico said it was Mr. Eickmeyer's statements that led to the plea. Two other males, including one who had moved in with her at age 18, were unwilling to testify, Mr. Frederico said, so the case centered on Mr. Eickmeyer. Though she did not go to jail, Ms. Tapp has been barred from public employment.

Sounds like she was sleeping around with lots of boys. He thought she was in love with him, but she used him for a one night stand.

39 posted on 03/17/2008 10:35:37 AM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Is there is a double standard?

There is a male/female double standard in all sorts of issues that come before the courts. The "justice system" treats males far more harshly. Men don't get to claim the PMS defense, battered women syndrome, etc.

If Mary whatshername who shot her sleeping preacher husband had been a man who shot his sleeping wife, he'd be on death row. But Mary isn't even in jail.

40 posted on 03/17/2008 10:35:53 AM PDT by freespirited (A government big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.- Barry Goldwater)
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To: Vaquero
There IS a difference. to a 15 year old boy ITS A CONQUEST......

Exactly. Here's the other difference. Women need a reason to have sex. Men just need a location.

41 posted on 03/17/2008 10:36:50 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: goldstategop

Right or wrong, there are biological reasons for that double standard. To put it plainly, boys and girls aren’t the same, despite what the feminists have been trying to tell us for 40+ years.


42 posted on 03/17/2008 10:37:32 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: marktwain
Boys do not get pregnant.

True, but they can get a girl pregnant. Then they are obligated for support for the next 18 years. So there is just as steep a penalty for them playing.

43 posted on 03/17/2008 10:40:52 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Doe Eyes

I agree with you.

There are some who will argue that since ‘pedophile’ in a legal sense has an age range associated with it (young boys), whose ‘equipment’ may not function or whatever, you just don’t see women going after kids that young. With men going after the young girls, there isn’t that same problem. It’s hard to call women/young boy sexual assault as ‘rape’ as it’s come to be defined, but felony sexual assault covers it. I’d say it would be rape if she sodomizes the boy with something.

The women who do this seem to go after high school age boys. So it may technically not be pedophilia. It’s ‘jailbait’, but the thing that clouds people’s minds is that the victim has to have an erection and so is a willing participant whereas a girl may or may not be willing. The fact is, it doesn’t matter if the kid is willing or not, they are a minor, the teacher, male or female, is in a position of power over the kid, they are adults, and there are laws against sex with minors, consenting or not. They aren’t able to give consent.

I’d say leave the ‘rape’ term in it’s more accurate usage, when someone is forced to have sex against their will - in addition to calling it felony sexual assault. For these other cases, call it felony sexual assault, whether it’s a man or woman teacher and a student.


44 posted on 03/17/2008 10:41:02 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: TexasCajun

every time I see her, I still think “Terminator 3”


45 posted on 03/17/2008 10:41:13 AM PDT by isom35
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
"Turns out, he said, it was the worst thing. He stopped going to many classes, dropped out of wrestling (his ticket to a college scholarship) and became depressed. And now the 20-year-old has sued the school district, the township and Ms. Tapp, who lost her job but served no jail time after pleading guilty to harassment by offensive touching."

She plead guilty and was sentenced to... what? Fine? Probation? Loss of job? Whatever? Okay, she payed whatever price the courts dictated. Would his life after this hot-for-teacher episode had turned out different if she was sentenced to jail? And, as a 20 or 21 year-old, would he do her again, now, if he had the chance? You're dang straight he would.

Bailiff! Whack his pee-pee...

46 posted on 03/17/2008 10:41:21 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: vikingd00d

Wow! Does prison make people ugly?


47 posted on 03/17/2008 10:41:46 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: marktwain

To: marktwain

“True, there are other issues, but that is why the double standard exists.”

There is one other reason: most men want their own children; they do not want to be tricked into unknowingly raising another man’s child.

The only way to know for sure is to know that no man has inseminated the woman.


48 posted on 03/17/2008 10:43:56 AM PDT by dsc
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Is there is a double standard?

Yes, you stupid moron, there *IS* a double standard, and there *SHOULD ALWAYS BE* a double standard.

A male teacher nailing a 15-year-old girl is statuatory rape, as well it should be. A young hot female teacher nailing a 15-year-old boy is a CONQUEST for the boy: 99 times out of 100, he'll be high-fiving his buds to brag about it. The girl will be scarred for life, but the boy it's a rite of passage and a notch on the belt.

In reality, this story is more a story about the death of common sense in the biased media and the culture in general than anything else.

49 posted on 03/17/2008 10:44:05 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Two comments.

I am more interested in who is complaining about the double standard.

The lesbian teachers should get the same treatment as men, jail. They are always insisting on equal (to men) treatment.

50 posted on 03/17/2008 10:44:48 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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