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THE $34 TRILLION PROBLEM : MEDICARE
ncpa.org ^ | March 17, 2008

Posted on 03/17/2008 10:56:14 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

Ask Alan Greenspan what he considers the greatest threat to the U.S. economy, and he will answer immediately with a single word: Medicare. Sometime in the next President's first term, Medicare Part A will go cash-flow-negative, and it's all downhill from there, says Fortune magazine.

Medicare provides a wide range of services and subsidies to more than 40 million old and disabled Americans. As the country ages, Medicare and Medicaid (for those of any age with low incomes) will devour growing chunks of U.S. economic output. So will Social Security, but its cut of gross domestic product (GDP) should stop increasing around 2030, says Fortune:

The federal budget has averaged about 18 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) over the past several decades. If that average holds and if the rules of our social insurance programs don't change, then by 2070, when today's kids are retiring, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security will consume the entire federal budget, with Medicare taking by far the largest share. But wait -- the situation is actually much worse, says Fortune:

Those estimates, reported in the latest Financial Report of the U.S. Government, assume that Medicare payments to doctors will be slashed drastically, by some 41 percent over the next nine years, as required by current law. It won't happen, says Colvin. Every year for the past five years, Congress has overridden the mandatory cuts. As for future cuts, the Financial Report says, reductions of this magnitude are not feasible and are very unlikely to occur fully in practice. So in reality, Medicare will go into the hole even faster than official projections reflect. If Medicare had to be accounted for like a company pension fund, it would be underfunded by $34 trillion. Obviously those long-term scenarios won't happen, because they can't happen -- we won't be shutting down the Army, Navy and so on. But it's easy to see why the candidates don't want to discuss it, says Fortune.

Source: Geoff Colvin, "The $34 Trillion Problem," Fortune, March 4, 2008.

For text:

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/03/news/economy/104239768.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2008030405

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http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_Category=25


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1 posted on 03/17/2008 10:56:15 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch
The politicians won't discuss Medicare reform for fear of offending geezer voters. And they do vote.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 03/17/2008 10:58:18 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Memo to Baby Boomers:

You are royally f****d.


3 posted on 03/17/2008 11:00:09 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Yep. A negative cash flow social insurance program. Guess who will wind up footing the bill for it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 03/17/2008 11:01:34 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Not for awhile. In the meantime, the Feds are going to bleed us dry before admitting defeat. So we’re the one’s royally f****d.


5 posted on 03/17/2008 11:02:09 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: FormerACLUmember

Not the boomers who are f****d, it is those of use who come along after. :(


6 posted on 03/17/2008 11:02:12 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: InvisibleChurch

Eat sensibly, exercise, die healthy.
That’s my plan.

No doubt that Medicare & SS will blow up.
And it won’t be pretty.


7 posted on 03/17/2008 11:02:53 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: FormerACLUmember
Memo to Baby Boomers: You are royally f****d.

With all those votes? What do you think retired baby boomers are going to vote to do? Correction: Memo to Baby Boomers Gen X'ers and beyond: You are royally f****d.

8 posted on 03/17/2008 11:03:44 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: InvisibleChurch

There’s an easy solution. Get rid of Medicare all together. If the elderly and disabled can’t afford health care let nature take its course.


9 posted on 03/17/2008 11:03:59 AM PDT by utherdoul
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To: utherdoul

Healthcare will be nationalized long before that happens.


10 posted on 03/17/2008 11:05:46 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: utherdoul

“let nature take its course”

No matter how much is spent, nature will, every time.


11 posted on 03/17/2008 11:06:44 AM PDT by edcoil (Go Great in 08 ... Slide into 09)
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To: utherdoul
If the elderly and disabled can’t afford health care let nature take its course.

Now there's a winning campaign strategy. /s

12 posted on 03/17/2008 11:06:47 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: goldstategop
I think the Medicare system is the victim of fraud of one kind or another from all sides: suppliers, users, and the government.

The suppliers - doctors(who's costs are driven up by legal tort), hospitals (really just business corporations), and the medical goods, medicines and equipment - all have driven up costs higher than if they had been left alone to fulfill the original goal (heal people).

The users - are to blame too for not shopping for their care as they would for a pair of shoes, for making a social day at the doctors' office complex to gab with other geezers on medicare, for being hypocondriacs because they don't have to pay for it, etc.

The hospitals - for having to fund the cost for indigent and illegal care through overcharging the government

and finally, the suppliers ---slap that "medical" tag on it and it becomes a whole 'nother level of item.....

The government is always to blame when it takes money from someone who's earned it and gives it to someone who didn't.

13 posted on 03/17/2008 11:07:58 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: InvisibleChurch
Mr. Ponzi would be proud!


14 posted on 03/17/2008 11:08:37 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome..." I. Asimov)
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To: FormerACLUmember
As a retired, mid-60s and financially independent geezer, I'm going to die before this really is a disaster, but I'm very concerned {Tim} for my children and grandchildren.

I've got no real solution for the medicare/SS problem for the future, so I'm trying to built my estate for them, so that when the crap hits the fan, they will have enough to sustain themselves.

I know it's selfish, but since I can't save the world, I'll do the best I can for my family.

I could have saved more people, but the gummit took too much of my money via taxes, so it's up to the gummit to save the rest of the people.

15 posted on 03/17/2008 11:08:39 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: utherdoul

Yes, and get rid of the cops and law enforcement. If people can’t protect their property, then someone else should have it. At least, that seems to be the planned solution for the borders.


16 posted on 03/17/2008 11:09:07 AM PDT by ghostrider
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To: utherdoul

We should stop pumping all that money into the last few months of a person’s life. Unless they’re in a vegetative state of course, then anything goes.


17 posted on 03/17/2008 11:10:21 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: USS Alaska
Buy as much land as you can and plant a VICTORY garden... Grow corn to feed your steers and pigs, keep chickens for eggs and meat, and grow all your own food. Hunt and fish. Learn how to make candles, because the lights are probably going out soon! Wood stoves make fabulous biscuits...

The shiite IS hitting the fan! I am also a 60 yo, and ready to spit into the faces, and on the graves, of all those who got us here! This is not the way we learned it in school! This isn't even the same country, as far as I can tell (se habla espanol???)

Last one out the door, hit the switch!

18 posted on 03/17/2008 11:16:36 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome..." I. Asimov)
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To: Wolfie
We should stop pumping all that money into the last few months of a person’s life. Unless they’re in a vegetative state of course, then anything goes.

Yes and by all means let's let the same group that makes rules about our health care (soon to be the Gov't) decide who is and who is not a veritable. It doesn't take a Nostradamus to predict more veggies in our future. ;-)

19 posted on 03/17/2008 11:16:52 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: ghostrider

Or people could work and save and scrimp so they’d have enough for retirement like my grandparents have, and my great grandfather did. They’ve never suckled on the government teat like so many people on Medicare.


20 posted on 03/17/2008 11:16:52 AM PDT by utherdoul
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