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US allows states to kill sea lions to save salmon
Associated Press ^ | March 19, 2008

Posted on 03/18/2008 8:01:33 PM PDT by george76

TRAPS, pyrotechnics and beanbags shot at sea lions have failed to deter the annual springtime feast of threatened salmon at a northwestern US dam...

The National Marine Fisheries Service authorised Oregon and Washington state officials to first attempt to catch the sea lions that arrive at the base of the Bonneville Dam on the Columbia River and hold them 48 hours to see whether an aquarium, zoo or similar facility will take them. Otherwise, they could be euthanised, along with those that avoid trapping.

About 60 of the California sea lions, identified by branding, scars or other markings, were deemed the worst offenders and qualify for 'immediate removal.'

One, branded C404, became something of a celebrity because of his ability to work his way into the fish ladders of the dam, and even into the window where upriver-bound salmon are counted to determine the size of later runs. Many sea lions have been coming to the dams for years.

Fidelia Andy, chairwoman of the Columbia Intertribal Fish Commission, said the order 'was the right decision at the right time' and asked for 'the public's patience and support while management activities proceed.' The ruling followed three meetings of a task force comprising commercial and sport fishermen, treaty tribes and animal rights interests.

Sea lion populations have soared since they and other marine mammals were covered under the 1972 act. They numbered about 1,000 in the 1930s... They are thought to number about 240,000 today.

(Excerpt) Read more at straitstimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; fishing; sealion; sealions
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1 posted on 03/18/2008 8:01:34 PM PDT by george76
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To: jazusamo; Grampa Dave; girlangler

2 posted on 03/18/2008 8:02:58 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Maybe they can can up the sea lions, yummie!


3 posted on 03/18/2008 8:05:00 PM PDT by Siberian-psycho (An oppressed class which did not try to possess arms, would deserve to be treated as slaves." Lenin)
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To: george76

You see a fish ladder. Your friend the sea lion sees a free buffet.

Are sea lions good eatin’?


4 posted on 03/18/2008 8:06:34 PM PDT by RichInOC (...William Frank Buckley, Jr., November 24, 1925-February 27, 2008, R.I.P.)
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To: fish hawk; Carry_Okie; calcowgirl; Troublemaker; CrappieLuck; Cold Heart; Salvation; sionnsar; ...

The Columbia River Inter-Tribal Fish Commission commended the federal decision


5 posted on 03/18/2008 8:08:05 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Lets stay away from the fish tonight honey.
6 posted on 03/18/2008 8:08:54 PM PDT by Siberian-psycho (An oppressed class which did not try to possess arms, would deserve to be treated as slaves." Lenin)
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To: george76
US allows states to kill sea lions to save salmon

Does that headline bother anyone else here?

7 posted on 03/18/2008 8:11:01 PM PDT by liege
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To: george76

Paging naked, caged PETA activists...


8 posted on 03/18/2008 8:11:03 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: liege

Yep.


9 posted on 03/18/2008 8:12:38 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: liege; SunkenCiv

Yup :

Nice of the feds to allow us to ...

/s


10 posted on 03/18/2008 8:15:32 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
qualify for 'immediate removal'

Termination. Neutralization. Sanction.

Any other good euphemisms?

11 posted on 03/18/2008 8:15:42 PM PDT by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: The Paucity of Hope)
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To: george76

Hey. These pups are supposed to be pretty smart. So why not post signs on the rock levies etc., stating No Fishing.


12 posted on 03/18/2008 8:16:09 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...)
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To: george76
Save the salmon! It's delicious!

Salmon: The other pink meat.

13 posted on 03/18/2008 8:17:45 PM PDT by libs_kma (The land of the free, because of the brave)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

Somewhere in California lurks a peculiar federal judge just waiting to issue a writ of a certiorari at the behest of some ACLU type who moonlights for PETA.


14 posted on 03/18/2008 8:17:55 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: george76

I think it was pretty clear this would eventually happen, it’s just a shame it took the time that it did. They could have saved a lot of salmon by acting sooner.


15 posted on 03/18/2008 8:18:03 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: george76

The iron law of unintended consequences strikes again.


16 posted on 03/18/2008 8:20:23 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: liege

“Does that headline bother anyone else here?”

Yes, but I worked for newspapers for years, and most people don’t realize a writer does not usually control what headline is placed above a story. A danged editor, or whoever is in charge of layout, does. And these are oftentimes people who read a few paragraphs of a story and place their own bias and agenda into a headline that has to fit into so many picas.

I hope the professional biologists, the ones who aren’t recent graduates of touchy feely wildlife management, aka “Send us money to save animals,” Humane Society of the U.S., types do allow for sound wildlife management.

What is hilarious is that those types want dams, human progress removed to save something, without considering the fact we don’t live in the freaking “Garden of Eden,” anymore, so mankind has no choice but manage the balance of nature.

I think we need to release all the “problem” bears, seals, cougars, and other beautiful animals at the PETA and HSUS headquarters, and let them deal with it.


17 posted on 03/18/2008 8:25:10 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: denydenydeny; jazusamo; george76

“The iron law of unintended consequences strikes again.”

Boy you nailed it right on the head.

Wish I could say so much in so few words and make a point like that!!!!


18 posted on 03/18/2008 8:28:37 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: george76
About 60 of the California sea lions, identified by branding, scars or other markings, were deemed the worst offenders and qualify for 'immediate removal.'

On behalf of good Californians, I apologize for the unacceptable behavior of our sea lions. I vote "death penalty." ;-)

19 posted on 03/18/2008 8:30:57 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: girlangler
I think we need to release all the “problem” bears, seals, cougars, and other beautiful animals at the PETA and HSUS headquarters, and let them deal with it.

That's an innovative idea but PETA would have a problem getting rid of the bears and cougars after they euthanized them, they wouldn't be able to get them into super market dumpters like they do the cats and dogs.

20 posted on 03/18/2008 8:33:17 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: calcowgirl
branding, scars or other markings

No doubt the result of a harsh childhood. No wonder they are acting out and eating all those fish!

/ridiculous psychobabble.

21 posted on 03/18/2008 8:36:41 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: jazusamo

But, but, Jaz, they could always sell the bear bladders, lighten up the load (grin).

Yea, then they could issue lots of press releases about the overwhelming trafficing in bear bladders and use it as a great fundraising effort.

It could be as famous and successful as the “Eskimos clubbing baby seals” campaign — still, after 30 years, the most successful animal rights fundraising campaign in history!!!!


22 posted on 03/18/2008 8:42:01 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Next thing we’ll see PETA advocating amnesty!

They are victims of lifelong abuse.... /ridiculous psychobabble.


23 posted on 03/18/2008 8:43:39 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: liege

The entire Marine Mammal Protection Act offends me more than the headline

http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/pr/pdfs/laws/mmpa.pdf


24 posted on 03/18/2008 8:45:34 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

Some of whom look like sea lions.


25 posted on 03/18/2008 8:46:40 PM PDT by tbw2 ("Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" by Tamara Wilhite - on amazon.com)
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To: girlangler

LOL!!

I knew better than to try to out humor you, I’m a mere fledgling and you’re the pro. :-)


26 posted on 03/18/2008 8:47:29 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: george76; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; coffeebreak; ...
Oregon Ping

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Oregon Ping List.

27 posted on 03/18/2008 8:57:42 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Siberian-psycho

Or use them for biodiesel!


28 posted on 03/18/2008 8:58:18 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: george76

It’s about time this happened. They are a nuisance. The salmon fishing has gone away.


29 posted on 03/18/2008 8:59:31 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: george76

Try throwin another one of them puppies on the barbie!


30 posted on 03/18/2008 9:02:38 PM PDT by djf (She's filing her nails while they're draggin the lake....)
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To: Salvation

Lol!

New trend:
Sea lion shoe leather

Soft... supple... comfortable... can’t beat it!


31 posted on 03/18/2008 9:05:06 PM PDT by djf (She's filing her nails while they're draggin the lake....)
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To: george76
US allows states to kill sea lions to save salmon

Whichever tastes better wins.

32 posted on 03/18/2008 9:14:17 PM PDT by montag813
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To: george76
The National Marine Fisheries Service authorised Oregon and Washington state officials to first attempt to catch the sea lions that arrive at the base of the Bonneville Dam on the Columbia River and hold them 48 hours to see whether an aquarium, zoo or similar facility will take them. Otherwise, they could be euthanised, along with those that avoid trapping.

Good grief. How much will all that rigamarole cost? Just shoot 'em.

Anybody here tried seal meat? I mean, seriously. Could there be a market for it?

33 posted on 03/18/2008 9:30:01 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (Every one of the current presidential candidates views American sovereignty with utter contempt.)
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To: george76

This reminds me of the question- although sea lions may not be endangered.

: What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant?


34 posted on 03/18/2008 9:36:53 PM PDT by Redcitizen (What we need is a Grand Army of the Republic.)
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To: Salvation

Or feed the state’s prisoners ?


35 posted on 03/18/2008 9:36:56 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Redcitizen

Sea lions are not endangered : even if they still have a federal designation.

240,000 plus ?


36 posted on 03/18/2008 9:40:22 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Mmmmm, sealion! Nice change from salmon anyway.


37 posted on 03/18/2008 10:10:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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We could preserve all animal saver’s guilt by producing “salmon free” sea lion food (like dolpin free tuna).

It would cost more, but make a lot of people feel better about themselves, knowing they are saving the world’s wildlife, especially those poor misunderstood sea lions.


38 posted on 03/18/2008 10:23:30 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: jazusamo
frankly, since the Indians get to decide how much salmon they want and when they want it, I could care less about "saving" the salmon.....the sea lions are much more entertaining....

see where letting Indians get all these "rights" has gotten us?....they can now choose what species can survive and which ones can't.....

39 posted on 03/18/2008 11:44:51 PM PDT by cherry
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To: RichInOC
My tribe , the Yuroks of the Klamath River in N. California used to kill them and eat them for hundreds of years. Don't tell anyone but they still kill them when no one is looking. SSHHHhhhhhh
40 posted on 03/19/2008 12:20:27 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: RichInOC

Veal of the sea.


41 posted on 03/19/2008 12:24:27 AM PDT by Ricebug (NKP RTAFB 70/71)
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To: cherry

Your post is so stupid I don’t know where to start. (so I wont)


42 posted on 03/19/2008 12:25:21 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: george76

These rogue sea lions would have been killed off and driven off years ago. They are pests and nothing more. They are no where near endangered

More salmon for people to eat!


43 posted on 03/19/2008 12:32:19 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: cherry

44 posted on 03/19/2008 6:55:18 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: liege

Yes.


45 posted on 03/19/2008 6:56:22 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Don't burn a bra, burn a feminist!)
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46 posted on 03/19/2008 6:56:41 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Been there, seen that, and smelled it too.


47 posted on 03/19/2008 7:19:12 AM PDT by printhead
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To: george76

We have been putting up with this behavior for over 2-3 decades.

Sea lions and seals have been trying to eat the salmon we hook off the west coats for decades. When I first moved out here, a few well placed shots from a pistol worked.

Then that became a no no and the boat captains resorted to cherry bombs.

Then that became a no no, and that was when I basically gave up salmon fishing from a boat.

Since then certain shore fishing areas have become all you can eat buffets for seals for sea perch and halibut.


48 posted on 03/19/2008 7:45:10 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaSamma's Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11")
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To: cherry

I see your ill informed post has been answered by others.


49 posted on 03/19/2008 9:07:03 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: libs_kma
Salmon: The other pink meat.

Groan....don't know how the locals have overlooked that bumpersticker for so long. :)

50 posted on 03/19/2008 9:51:23 AM PDT by gundog (John McCain is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.)
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