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The Obama Lovefest Back On
Flopping Aces ^ | 03-18-08 | Curt

Posted on 03/18/2008 9:24:14 PM PDT by Starman417

Well, we knew the liberal MSM would come out in favor of their chosen one, and they didn't disappoint:

There are moments — increasingly rare in risk-abhorrent modern campaigns — when politicians are called upon to bare their fundamental beliefs. In the best of these moments, the speaker does not just salve the current political wound, but also illuminates larger, troubling issues that the nation is wrestling with.

Inaugural addresses by Abraham Lincoln and Franklin D. Roosevelt come to mind, as does John F. Kennedy’s 1960 speech on religion, with its enduring vision of the separation between church and state. Senator Barack Obama, who has not faced such tests of character this year, faced one on Tuesday. It is hard to imagine how he could have handled it better

[...]There have been times when we wondered what Mr. Obama meant when he talked about rising above traditional divides. This was not such a moment.

[...]Mr. Obama’s eloquent speech should end the debate over his ties to Mr. Wright since there is nothing to suggest that he would carry religion into government.

Whoakay then. End the debate? You just can't make this stuff up.

Not sure which speech those writers at the NYT's watched but the one I watched bore no similarity to the one they're describing. To me the whole damn thing sounded like an admittance of the fact that Wright is a angry black man, his anger is justifiable, and that was one of the reasons he sought him out as a mentor anyways because there IS injustice in this country towards the black race and Obama is the man to fix it.

Fix it by acknowledging it and then ensuring that the poor and downtrodden become even more dependent on the Government.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barackhusseinobama; blacktheology; jeremiahsmessiah; liberalracism; marxism; matthews; nobama; obama; politicsofoppression; speech; wright

1 posted on 03/18/2008 9:24:15 PM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

>> The Obama Lovefest Back On

Well, what crawls up the leg must come down the leg.


2 posted on 03/18/2008 9:29:32 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Starman417

He’s an eloquent liar.


3 posted on 03/18/2008 9:29:42 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: Starman417

Obama = God Damn America. Never forget.


4 posted on 03/18/2008 9:31:50 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Starman417
The speech was eloquent to the ears of the left (including the media). And it really is the job of conservatives to explain to people just how left wing this speech was. It was a view of never ending racism, capitalism as evil, conservatives as the equivalent of Reverand Wright's crazy statements. It was an exercise in marxist rhetoric.

I certainly hope Obama can be defeated after he listed Reaganism, welfare reform, crime fighting, and opposition to affirmative action as the racist results of capitalism.

5 posted on 03/18/2008 9:33:07 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Starman417

The speech was shameful. The backstab of his grandmother—who helped raise him when his low-life bigamist father left him, and saying that white racism was the basis of the Reagan coalition, were absolutely despicable.


6 posted on 03/18/2008 9:34:52 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Starman417; All

Mr. Obama’s Profile in Courage (The New York Times aka Monica)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1987955/posts


7 posted on 03/18/2008 9:36:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com)
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To: montag813

He is a pile of it Some one compared it to Lincolns address

Thats sad


8 posted on 03/18/2008 9:37:59 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: Williams

The speech sounded good to me.... at first...then reality set in.


9 posted on 03/18/2008 9:40:13 PM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: Starman417

Fox News and the bloggers are still drop kicking him. His glow is fading.


10 posted on 03/18/2008 9:46:57 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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I drove two hours today listening to Rush, and then John and Ken (KFI AM 640) and other radio feedback from other radio hosts.

No one "Bought" Shiat today from Nobamma's speech. And NO Nobamma, I've never heard any "Priest, or Rabbi or Minister" talk that crazy shiat that Rev Wrong has blurted-out.

11 posted on 03/18/2008 9:52:26 PM PDT by Revereee
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To: Starman417

Jus saw some Obama vids on youtube. I post here often and I understand I am preaching to the choir, but the posts on youtube are amazing. Nearly everyone is trashing this guy. As this is a younger crowd, I think he may have lost a great part of the under 25 crowd.


12 posted on 03/18/2008 9:54:10 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? ((Ok, Im the official Pit Bull Defender/If you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.)
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To: Starman417
That a speech -- a systematic, planned, calculated series of WORDS -- turns people 180 degrees shows just how shallow they are.

It shows how WORDS - the right words - can make people accept anything, no matter how egregious, cruel, or offensive.

And they think they've evolved from Germany of 1944.

13 posted on 03/18/2008 9:54:25 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta
Yeah....and did you catch the video on Fox yesterday with Obama signing some large plastic sheet at an industrial co.

His left handed signature with marking pen looked a lot like the curvy script the islamics like to use.

14 posted on 03/18/2008 9:58:08 PM PDT by spokeshave (Hey GOP...NO money till border closed and criminal illegals deported)
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To: Williams
More eloquent to the ears than to the eyes. I listened to it first, on the radio, and had to admit, he sounded good.

Then I watched it on a YouTube video, and saw his head and eyes going back and forth, from the right teleprompter to the left teleprompter, and he looked like a shallow young man doing an good job of reading a speech. He had the voice talents of a decent actor, but not the facial expressions or body language.

... and those oversized American Flags, dominating his weak visual presence, looked rather out of place, as fake symbolism. If flags have feelings, they were whispering to each other, behind Obama's back, "... and what did you do wrong to get stuck on this darned job?"

15 posted on 03/18/2008 10:00:47 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: Starman417; All
Obama is such a hypocrite not cutting ties with Wright. Read what he said to ABC News in April 2007 about Don Imus' comments about the black women: "I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus," Obama told ABC News, "but I would also say that there's nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude."
16 posted on 03/18/2008 10:02:53 PM PDT by swampdweller (Live Free or Die Hard)
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To: Starman417

Chances are, the NYT editorial would have been nearly identical had BHO simply blown his nose.


17 posted on 03/18/2008 10:02:59 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (Every one of the current presidential candidates views American sovereignty with utter contempt.)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

He sound like a liberal democrat.


18 posted on 03/18/2008 10:03:42 PM PDT by Big Horn (Life is a sexually transmitted disease that is 100% fatal . Author unknown)
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To: When do we get liberated?
Ooh ... that's good news ... not that the under 25 crowd was going to pay attention long enough to vote in November, but it's good to know this.

Can you characterize what they saw that they don't like?

I'll send off an email to my 20 year old son in college, who has been fond of Obama (after Ron Paul dropped out) and ask him what he thinks of this speech. I doubt my son will watch very much of the speech; it exceeds his 2 minute attention span for things political (PC games and girls earn a longer attention span), but he might have an interesting reaction.

19 posted on 03/18/2008 10:07:36 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: Starman417
The Obama Lovefest Back On

Good. We still need Obama to rid us of the beast, for she is not gone yet. My powder is dry, and it will remain so even until the RAT convention if necessary. He will be easy, even for McCain, to beat in November.
20 posted on 03/18/2008 10:10:11 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: Starman417
Senator B. (whose middle name must NEVER be spoken Obama's speech was,,,,

"ELOQUENT, BUT OUTRAGEOUS"!!!!

First, he proved himself to be a blatant liar! He had claimed prior to this speech that he had only heard one or two comments. Now he admits he DID attend some of those racists rants. HE IS BY HIS OWN WORDS--A LIAR.Second, he refused to disassociate himself from Wright. That in itself is outrageous.

Third, he attempted to defend Wright's comments by asking everyone to put Wright's comments in the "BLACK PERSPECTIVE"!!That is absolutely outrageous--and it is an indirect endorsement (back door) of the hate and venom that was spewed there and other black churches.

Fourth, he insulted everyone listening by saying that he could not disassociate himself from his GRANDMOTHER--therefore, he could not disassociate himself from his Pastor either. How outrageous can you possibly get?

I guess that Obama has never heard the phrase, "YOU CAN PICK YOUR FRIENDS--YOU CANNOT PICK YOUR FAMILY"!

The entire speech was "ELOQUENT, BUT OUTRAGOUS"!--basically telling the white community, "That's just the way black churches are--DEAL WITH IT"!

He blew a once in a lifetime opportunity to ask EVERYONE to stop spewing venomous, racial hatred (as he is uniquely qualified to do just that) by demanding the black churches and pastors take the lead in promising to STOP IT RIGHT NOW. However, he 'took the low road"--as decided not to. How sad.

21 posted on 03/18/2008 10:21:06 PM PDT by stockstrader (Hoping for CHANGE by voting for Obama--is like hoping to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: Aria
Everyone should actually read his words of all his speeches.
His supporters are wearing blinders and ear muffs, and as one of my
long time friends said, "I don't care what he says, he has my vote" unquote.


Well, I will continue to remain solid and steadfast about my optimism towards
my fellow Americans and friends, no matter how difficult it may be.
Prayer helps.

22 posted on 03/18/2008 10:21:56 PM PDT by MaxMax (I need a life after politics)
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To: ThePythonicCow
Well, I sent off that email to my son ... it may be a day or two before he replies. I included in my email message a link to the YouTube video of Obama's speech:
Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union'
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pWe7wTVbLUU
Looking at the current comments on this YouTube video, I do -not- see the negative comments you saw. I see only fawning comments:
23 posted on 03/18/2008 10:34:17 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: Starman417

I hate it that any of this was made an issue right now....

This should have been saved for a few months from now. Obama can be easily beaten, but I’d love to see him take out Hillary first. Until then, we should keep our powder dry on Obama and let them beat each other to death until he wins. At that time, THEN we can go after him.


24 posted on 03/18/2008 10:34:31 PM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Starman417
"Inaugural addresses by Abraham Lincoln and Franklin D. Roosevelt come to mind, as does John F. Kennedy’s 1960 speech on religion, with its enduring vision of the separation between church and state. Senator Barack Obama, who has not faced such tests of character this year, faced one on Tuesday. It is hard to imagine how he could have handled it better.

Handled it better? Sen. Obama equated his grandmother with an anti-semitic racist whose public rants have demeaned this country.

Sen. Obama refused to leave the church where Jeremiah Wright serves as senior pastor.

Sen. Obama did not address the significant areas of agreement between his and Wright's public positions, such as on the war in Iraq.

25 posted on 03/18/2008 10:37:46 PM PDT by Aln in Eastern WA (McCain-Romney 08)
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To: Starman417

Too late. The damage is done.


26 posted on 03/18/2008 10:48:33 PM PDT by no dems (Barack Obama's Pastor is nuttier than a squirrel turd.)
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To: writer33

It's cheaper if you buy in bulk...

27 posted on 03/19/2008 2:15:46 AM PDT by Libloather (March is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: When do we get liberated?

"As this is a younger crowd, I think he may have lost a great part of the under 25 crowd."

Well, that's a little encouraging anyway. I hope that attitude spreads far and wide. I was really crestfallen yesterday when I heard almost every talking head out there praising Obama to the skies. Saying how this speech was the sign of a true leader and he only reinforced everyone's impression that he was just what we need in our next president. Even those who are backers of Hillary were not stinting in there accolades."

28 posted on 03/19/2008 2:30:24 AM PDT by Mila
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To: Aln in Eastern WA

"Sen. Obama equated his grandmother with an anti-semitic racist whose public rants have demeaned this country."

That jumped out at me! Unless, Obama's grandmother was preaching bigoted, hate filled, anti-American sermons to large white congregations, it was a completely nonsensical comparison. But of course every stupid pundit that got his hands on a microphone yesterday thought it was brilliantly balanced.

29 posted on 03/19/2008 2:38:10 AM PDT by Mila
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To: stockstrader
I guess that Obama has never heard the phrase, "YOU CAN PICK YOUR FRIENDS--YOU CANNOT PICK YOUR FAMILY"!

I'll just tack on that he did "pick" his Grandma. He picked her up and tossed her under the bus by suggesting she was "racist" in his speech last night.

Thanks alot, "Grandson"...

30 posted on 03/19/2008 3:05:39 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ThePythonicCow
I do -not- see the negative comments you saw.

The comments are screened before being approved for posting.
I ran into to this tactic the other day
while trying to respond to a pro-Wright video
with a simple quote from Brooker T. Washingtom

31 posted on 03/19/2008 3:25:55 AM PDT by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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To: kanawa
If YouTube comments were screened before posting, then I don't see how Williams could have seen them any more than I could.
32 posted on 03/19/2008 4:04:02 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: ThePythonicCow; When do we get liberated?
I believe it was 'When do we get liberated?' who "Just saw some Obama vids on youtube." and reported seeing the negative comments.
The explanation is simply that there is more than one copy of Obama's speech on YouTube.
The video posted by the the pro-Obama camp(BarackObamadotcom),
which is the one you were looking at, is screening out the negative comments.
33 posted on 03/19/2008 4:43:36 AM PDT by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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To: Starman417
I couldn't resist visiting the DU website to see the reactions. It is above all, pathetic to read the posts by the mindless supporters of this guy. To them, it's all about how intelligent and well spoken Obama is. It's all about how true the message is in the speech he gave. How it made them cry it was so in tune with America and racism.

It was a good speech, and Obama is in fact a very intelligent man. These are good human qualities. And yes, he has an interest in pushing this mindset, he is in fact, a black man. So what?

However, I did no see one single post that dug up the root issue and addressed it. That is, how could anyone sit in church every Sunday with this man for 20 years and not be sympathetic to his views. If Obama is in fact as intelligent as we all think, and he truly disagree with the Rev Wright, how could he justify taking his young and easily influenced children to listen to this tirade along with his wife? I thought he was more intelligent and evolved than that !

"For the first time in my life, I am proud of America"

Do we all remember those statement by his wife? What do you suppose were her underlying opinions of America and white people if she were making a statement like this? Knowing now what kind of sermon she listened to every week, what can we derive from these bits of information and seemingly inconsequential statements? And why would her husband, who sits right next to her in church every Sunday, think any differently?

We can write off Obama's refusal to pledge allegiance with his hand on his heart and we can discount his flat refusal to wear the standard lapel pin. But now that this is all public, can we come to any rational conclusions when we put all the information together? Although this conclusion would not hold up in a court as solid evidence, we all know what it adds up to, and in a campaign, we aren't required to reach a level of reasonable doubt and provide DNA evidence. You just have to have enough common sense and life experience to be able to reduce this all to it's true meaning. Personally, I believe Obama is a closet racist himself. I think he is surely sympathetic to the reverends views and at least in part, believes them himself.

He will continue to get the support of the black community because they know he can never be elected unless he also straddles the fence in order to lure in the moderate vote. They are willing to give him a pass on this for the sake of getting elected, but they know who he really is and what the other Obama feels.

The posts I read at DU are embarrassing. Almost every one of these people took the bait, and have now totally digested it and produced the exact response that Obama intended. They were distracted from the truth and real meaning of this entire fiaco, it was swept under the rug and now they just have to wait for it to fade.

Unfortunately for them, I don't think this is going to happen, this is an albatross that even Bill Clinton couldn't shake, in my humble opinion.

34 posted on 03/19/2008 5:16:06 AM PDT by FunkyZero
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To: FunkyZero
Good post. I agree. As I said in post #21--Senator B. (whose middle name must NEVER be spoken Obama's speech was,,,,

"ELOQUENT, BUT OUTRAGEOUS"!!!!<.b>

First, he proved himself to be a blatant liar! He had claimed prior to this speech that he had only heard one or two comments. Now he admits he DID attend some of those racists rants. HE IS BY HIS OWN WORDS--A LIAR.

Second, he refused to disassociate himself from Wright. That in itself is outrageous.

Third, he attempted to defend Wright's comments by asking everyone to put Wright's comments in the "BLACK PERSPECTIVE"!! That is absolutely outrageous--and it is an indirect endorsement (back door) of the hate and venom that was spewed there and other black churches.

Fourth, he insulted everyone listening by saying that he could not disassociate himself from his GRANDMOTHER--therefore, he could not disassociate himself from his Pastor either. How outrageous can you possibly get?

I guess that Obama has never heard the phrase, "YOU CAN PICK YOUR FRIENDS--YOU CANNOT PICK YOU FAMILY"!

The entire speech was "ELOQUENT, BUT OUTRAGOUS"!--basically telling the white community, "That's just the way black churches are--I am NOT disavowning my friendship with a blatant racist--so DEAL WITH IT"!

35 posted on 03/19/2008 8:05:16 AM PDT by stockstrader (Hoping for CHANGE by voting for Obama--is like hoping to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: kanawa; When do we get liberated?

Aha - good explanations on the YouTube video comments - thanks!


36 posted on 03/19/2008 8:10:08 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: Libloather
It's cheaper if you buy in bulk...

Thanks for the advice. I almost passed out after his last speech. :-)

37 posted on 03/19/2008 6:03:11 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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