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Researcher: Discovery could end energy crisis
Tifton (GA) Gazette ^ | 3/15/2008 | Jana Cone

Posted on 03/20/2008 3:35:26 AM PDT by Neville72

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To: Anticommie
If that,s real, big oil will make shure this thing will never see light of the day, you can bet your house on it.

Why? They buy oil, expend lots of money finding and drilling for it, and they do still need to refine this bio-mass derived oilh, they won't go out of business, and they're smart enough, or should be anyway, to know that political realities and the public anger at high gas prices will cause the people to hang them if they try to quash such things.

41 posted on 03/20/2008 5:23:17 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: RedOhioan
We definitely have our share of tin-hat DU wannabes. "Big Oil" ooh, doesn't the name scare you?

I guess some of the "Conservatives" here are poseurs who don't believe in free-enterprise and capitalism any more than the socialists over at DK and DU.
42 posted on 03/20/2008 5:23:26 AM PDT by Sudetenland (I (heart) "Big Oil!")
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To: BRL

“I think Mr. Bell’s bacteria farm is located in a tunnel next to his perpetual motion machine.”

I can say with virtual certainty that Mr Bell is at best mistaken, or at worst, a fraud and huckster. This is the bio-energy equivalent of Cold Fusion.


43 posted on 03/20/2008 5:23:56 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: Neville72

I wish well this invention if only to reduce landfill waste. However, this is still hydrocarbon fuel. Our energy issue in not lack of resources, it is lack of production. Environmental wackos will fight this because it still burns carbon.


44 posted on 03/20/2008 5:26:32 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (Elect Conservatives- if you don't vote for McCain, at least work to elect conservatives!)
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To: spanalot
Makes my head spin to see people buying gas at Lukoil.
45 posted on 03/20/2008 5:31:40 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: Anticommie
If that,s real, big oil will make shure this thing will never see light of the day, you can bet your house on it. Look at the hybrid cars scam, it takes very little to upgrade a hybrid car to a PHEV (plug in hybrid)

True; however, the government is against plug ins because electrical generation capacity. Californika can't produce enough electricity for air conditioners which cost LIVES, you think the government want dead old people in hot houses while people are plugging in their cars?

(PHEV)which is basically an electric car with combustion engine back-up, yet no car manufacturer dares to produce one (you can buy a conversion kit though making your hybrid into a PHEV).

A little off basis. Current Hybrid are parallel systems in which the gas and electric work in unison. Series system like the Chevy Volt are as how you describe. The problem is battery technology. Lithium Ion batteries are still in development for large size motors. No car manufacturer dares to produce a PHEV cause they all are all in bed with oil companies.

Wrong, GM has said that its electric platform is the future of the company.

46 posted on 03/20/2008 5:36:44 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (Elect Conservatives- if you don't vote for McCain, at least work to elect conservatives!)
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To: deaconjim
Don’t be so sure. If this produces oil, it will have to be produced, refined and distributed to the existing gas stations. This will fall to the existing refineries, distribution systems, and retail outlets. The oil companies would be the natural choice to get into this business, and they could make the same profits without having to deal with the dictators and OPEC members to do it. I think they would love to see this work.

Considering that crude oil prices are (roughly) half the cost of gasoline, and crude is artificially priced higher due to OPEC, the oil companies could essentially change nothing in their operations and make the same profits, if not more. Beyond that, there are no exploration or extraction costs for this crude and the feedstocks are of nearly unlimited supply. Plus, I would assume bio-based crude would not have the nasty impurities (like sulphur) that have to be removed.

Only downside I can see is that we still won't have enough refinery capacity...
47 posted on 03/20/2008 5:39:11 AM PDT by chrisser (Obama: panem et circenses)
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To: Hacklehead
Seems that lately there is a crop of scientwists coming up with miracles, sucking money for “research” and then oooops! Sheeet dont work!

Investors get snowed in, not understanding the reality, but “impressed” with perpetuum mobile or whatever.
Seen this in the miraculous antenna design field, claims of science being wrong or stooopid for years, ...now here it is miracle (for HD TV reception, etc.)

48 posted on 03/20/2008 5:45:04 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee!)
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To: Texas Mulerider

Yea! just us oldtimers who have actually plowed a row or two behind one of these gas passers.


49 posted on 03/20/2008 5:48:55 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Hacklehead

“I can say with virtual certainty that Mr Bell is at best mistaken, or at worst, a fraud and huckster. This is the bio-energy equivalent of Cold Fusion.”

You know, if this turns out to be true, his simple observation about methane production in the gut of cattle is on a par with Alexander Fleming’s observation that the Penicillium mold contaminating his bacterial culture plates was inhibiting the bacterial growth. I would have looked at the plates and said, what’s this cr@p?” And then, I would have tossed them out.

Don’t be so quick to dismiss this: who would have predicted in the 1930’s that within 10-15 years we would be setting up huge fermentation vats on an industrial scale to produce life-saving drugs called “antibiotics”?

In fact, the biotechnology has been established for 50 years - waiting for the right combination of observation, inspiration, and need.

As Pasteur said: “In the fields of observation chance favors only the prepared mind.”


50 posted on 03/20/2008 5:53:59 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: Anticommie
No car manufacturer dares to produce a PHEV cause they all are all in bed with oil companies.

2009 Toyota Prius Plug-in Hybrid Prototype: Tokyo Test Drive
http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4227944.html

What will government do without collecting the taxes imposed on gasoline? I suspect we will pay those taxes in other forms.

Government makes a lot more money on the oil industry than the typical oil company does.

51 posted on 03/20/2008 5:56:41 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Neville72
They could use this in conjunction with the 200 mpg carburetor!
52 posted on 03/20/2008 5:56:49 AM PDT by anoldafvet (To liberals, building a wall across the Mexican border is a violation of the Voting Rights Act.)
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To: Sudetenland

Who pissed in your cereal this morning dickweed.


53 posted on 03/20/2008 6:02:23 AM PDT by BubbaJunebug
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To: BubbaJunebug

Sudetenland is a bit full of himself, I read is page, he offers more derogatory than useful information in his prose.


54 posted on 03/20/2008 6:14:04 AM PDT by existtoexcel
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To: Texas Mulerider
You realize, of course, that only a select minority here understand the meaning of "gee" and "haw."

That would be the about the same number of FReepers that know the word "grits" is a three syllable word.

55 posted on 03/20/2008 6:21:53 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: existtoexcel

I only denegrate fools who spread idiotic lies which would better be expressed on sites like DU and Liberals who live their lives in a fantasy world. Which are you?


56 posted on 03/20/2008 6:28:16 AM PDT by Sudetenland (I (heart) "Big Oil!")
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To: paterfamilias

“Don’t be so quick to dismiss this: who would have predicted in the 1930’s that within 10-15 years we would be setting up huge fermentation vats on an industrial scale to produce life-saving drugs called “antibiotics”?”

My opinion of the technology was based on 30 years of industrial research experience in molecular genetics and microbiology. I have done a technical evaluation of the biofuels state of the art and know what is technically possible and what is practical. I can tell you the claims being made for this technology are utterly ridiculous.


57 posted on 03/20/2008 6:30:38 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Hey, it could happen...


58 posted on 03/20/2008 6:34:56 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: spanalot
it will be immense fun wtching those russian thugs devolve back into the third world status they deserve

You're not suggesting that we use the bacteria to "devolve" the thugs into oil are you?
</false alarm>

59 posted on 03/20/2008 6:38:07 AM PDT by Theophilus (Nothing can make Americans safer than to stop aborting them.)
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To: Brilliant

Funny isn’t it? Something wonderful happens in a free socity, when the price of oil hits 100$ people start scrambling all over to find alternative fuel sources...

Unless the Carter years.

BTW Obama, Hillary and the dems in general think price controls and taxing oil companies is the way to solve the energy crisis in the world.


60 posted on 03/20/2008 6:38:32 AM PDT by nikos1121 (I'm voting for McCain...and fixin' to get excited about it.:)
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