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ATF orderes "always think forfeiture" customized Leatherman tools
www.subguns.com ^

Posted on 03/20/2008 6:17:04 PM PDT by kittycatonline.com

Somebody sent me an email mentioning the ATF ordering Leatherman tools engraved with "Always Think Forfeiture". I followed the link to the original message thread at www.subguns.com.

The thread includes a link to the Federal Business Opportunities website, where you can read the bid for yourself.

From the www.fbo.gov website:

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms requires the following items, Purchase Description Determined by Line Item, to the following: LI 001, EXACT MATCH ONLY - Leatherman Micra Color: Blue - Part number 64340101K Engraved with: ATF-Asset Forfeiture AND "always think forfeiture" PLEASE REFER TO THE ATTACHMENT. NOTE: ATF MAY REQUEST A SAMPLE TO DETERMINE IF IT MEETS OUR REQUIREMENT. A picture of the item may be substituted in place of the actual sample. ***Partial Shipments are allowed. Please use the space below to explain your delivery schedule. Preferred Delivery is between November 15th-23rd, NLT November 23rd***, 2000, EA;

(Excerpt) Read more at subguns.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: atf; bang; banglist; batfe; bootthebatfe; donutwatch; jackbootedthugs; jbts; leatherman; leo; unconstitutional
The bid was posted in October 2007. I searched and didn't find any earlier posts to this, so if it is, sorry. I just couldn't believe it was for real until I saw it for myself.
1 posted on 03/20/2008 6:17:05 PM PDT by kittycatonline.com
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To: kittycatonline.com

Bastards! Jack-booted thugs! And I say that with all due respect.


2 posted on 03/20/2008 6:20:03 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: kittycatonline.com

??????


3 posted on 03/20/2008 6:20:11 PM PDT by mnehring (So you think that money is the root of all evil. Have you ever asked what is the root of all money)
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To: kittycatonline.com
Tim Leatherman is a Kerry supporter/endorser and a libtard from way back.

He would probably donate the crap to them, but he's more than glad to get the money from the goobermint, I'm sure.

He won't get any of mine.

4 posted on 03/20/2008 6:22:18 PM PDT by OldSmaj (Death to islam. I am now and will always be, a sworn enemy of all things muslim.)
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To: kittycatonline.com

Gerber or Buck are decent.


5 posted on 03/20/2008 6:26:44 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: kittycatonline.com
Image hosted by Photobucket.com criminals and murderers all...
6 posted on 03/20/2008 6:27:37 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: Westlander

I have a Gerber multi-tool, but I don’t like it half as much as my Leatherman Wave. I hear he’s a lib tool, but I bought it before I knew that. Still, no way you’d get me to part with it.


7 posted on 03/20/2008 6:30:12 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: kittycatonline.com
All this with a Republican in the White House. I don't expect the man to know everything of this nature that's going on, but I had hoped that he would have tried to change the culture of these organizations somewhat. (Sigh).
8 posted on 03/20/2008 6:32:44 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: AFreeBird
I too love my Leatherman Wave.

It's sad that Leatherman has become the official multi-tool supplier of the BATFE.

Maybe I'll get mine engraved with "Molon labe".

9 posted on 03/20/2008 6:37:15 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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To: Momaw Nadon

There ya go!


10 posted on 03/20/2008 6:38:51 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: kittycatonline.com

Alway looking after our right aint they?


11 posted on 03/20/2008 6:49:28 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: OldSmaj

Dang! Who else makes a good multi-tool that’s on our side? I may not have much but I spend it wisely.


12 posted on 03/20/2008 6:49:48 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: kittycatonline.com

Send this to Lou Dobbs. He has been on the BATFE case lately for mistreating gun owners.


13 posted on 03/20/2008 6:50:40 PM PDT by therut
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To: kittycatonline.com

I predict that BATF will become the next front in the assault on firearms in America. The government and the gun grabbers are likely to come up short (hopefully) in the latest DC gun case in the Supreme Court. If the Court finds an unequivocal individual right is recognized in the Second Amendment, we may well see the darkside attempt an end-around by using the enforcement efforts of BATF to begin shutting off the sources of firearms.


14 posted on 03/20/2008 6:52:44 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: kittycatonline.com
$$$

Makes their real goals completely transparent, except to those who would be willingly blind.

15 posted on 03/20/2008 6:54:17 PM PDT by thecabal
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To: kittycatonline.com; Joe Brower
How about "A$$holes, Thugs and Fascists?"


16 posted on 03/20/2008 7:12:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

The BATF, Burn All Toddlers First.


17 posted on 03/20/2008 7:27:15 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: kittycatonline.com
My ex-mother-in-law gave me a Leatherman tool for Christmas about 15 years ago. I have to admit, she wasn't all bad. Close, but not all.
18 posted on 03/20/2008 7:28:07 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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To: Travis McGee

ATF = Domestic terrorists.


19 posted on 03/20/2008 7:41:10 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Change.....that's what we will have left in our pockets if a Democrat gets elected president!)
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To: All

I tossed my Leatherman when I found out his political leanings and I am pretty satisfied with my new Gerber tool and pocket knife.


20 posted on 03/20/2008 7:41:28 PM PDT by USAFJeeper
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To: All

Kabar.com


21 posted on 03/20/2008 7:46:04 PM PDT by wastedyears (More Maiden coming up in a few months!)
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To: Travis McGee

22 posted on 03/20/2008 7:49:27 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Eagles6

I don’t know how good it is but I got one from Lowes for $10, made in china. I guess I would rather have a few bucks going to china commies rather than a bunch going to us commies


23 posted on 03/20/2008 7:50:17 PM PDT by bigjackattack
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To: kittycatonline.com

Bastards
And
Total
F***heads


24 posted on 03/20/2008 8:14:06 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy.)
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To: Eagles6
Check out Ka-bar, Gerber, Buck.

Gerber probably has the better of the three.

I like my Leatherman WAVE and still use it, but only because it was a gift.

I would not buy one and be able to use it knowing I contributed to Tim Leatherman and his leftist leanings.

25 posted on 03/20/2008 8:45:55 PM PDT by OldSmaj (Death to islam. I am now and will always be, a sworn enemy of all things muslim.)
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To: Free Vulcan

Make that Facists.


26 posted on 03/20/2008 8:51:34 PM PDT by John Robie
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I’ve always preferred a Gerber because I can open it quickly with one hand. I’m real fond of my Glock as well although it is harder to remove screws with, especially if I’m trying not to wake the neighbors.


27 posted on 03/20/2008 8:57:09 PM PDT by KarinG1 (Opinions expressed in this post are my own and do not necessarily represent those of sane people.)
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To: kittycatonline.com
Heads should roll over this. From the guy who placed the requisition, to everyone who signed off on it, and to the head of the BATFE.

But they won't.

28 posted on 03/20/2008 10:01:05 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: John Robie

Bastards
And
Total
Facists
Exist


29 posted on 03/20/2008 11:06:01 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." FDR)
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To: kittycatonline.com
Photobucket
30 posted on 03/20/2008 11:31:29 PM PDT by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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To: KarinG1
I’ve always preferred a Gerber because I can open it quickly with one hand.

Yep, one quick downward-flick, and you've got pliers/wirecutters. The older version didn't have locks and somehow, I cut my thumb to the bone when the blade retracted while I was cutting something.(that thing was sharp!)

I carry mine in a blue cell-phone sheath (Lowes) 'cause the original fell apart pretty quick. I never leave home without it.

31 posted on 03/20/2008 11:46:51 PM PDT by budwiesest (The Clinton fix is in. If these two crooks can't steal the election, nobody can.)
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To: Travis McGee

News Reporter: "Don't these ATF agents look great in their uniforms and ski masks as they prepare to...What's that? Oh, I'm terribly sorry. This is actually a picture of a trio of cowardly terrorists who hide their identity behind their terrifying black ski masks."

32 posted on 03/20/2008 11:51:56 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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To: Travis McGee
How about "A$$holes, Thugs and Fascists

Nah, that would be redundant since its already engraved in the barrel of his sub gun...

33 posted on 03/21/2008 5:56:47 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Choose Liberty over slavery... the gulag awaits ANY compromise with evil...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: OldSmaj
depends on what you like. i'm a fan of the spyderwrench..


34 posted on 03/21/2008 6:35:38 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (white male christian hetero married gun toting SUV driving motorcycle riding conservative smoker)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

IRA, eh.


35 posted on 03/21/2008 8:25:26 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: SiVisPacemParaBellum


36 posted on 03/21/2008 8:35:35 AM PDT by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie!!)
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To: Travis McGee
Yep. These three are part of the new Continuity Irish Republican Army (CIRA), which broke off from the PIRA in 1986 and to this day continues to cause problems in Ireland and Great Britain.

There are unconfirmed reports that the CIRA split into two different factions in 2005-6. If true, this would likely weaken the group further and might actually give Ireland an opportunity to fully recover after so many years of violence and bloodshed.

37 posted on 03/21/2008 9:04:43 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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To: John Robie

They’re not smart enough to be fascists.


38 posted on 03/21/2008 4:56:41 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy.)
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To: kittycatonline.com; GOP_Raider; Always A Marine; mnehrling; OldSmaj; AFreeBird; Chode; ...
Too bad the subguns.com and fbo.gov info wasn't posted here. They've both been removed.

In any event, I thought I'd update all of you on politicians fighting over who 'fixed' this. Idaho Rep. Bill Sali claims it was him. This was from May, 2008.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/nwheadlines/2008/05/_more_northwest_front_pages_85.html

Idaho lawmaker says he prompted ATF to ditch controversial slogan
Posted by Noelle Crombie, The Oregonian May 17, 2008 05:25AM
Categories: Idaho

Looks like the ATF has to find a new slogan to engrave on the pocketknives it gives its agents. "Always Think Forfeiture" - a reference to the feds' ability to seize assets tied to a criminal act - ruffled some feathers in Congress, this morning's Idaho Statesman reports.

U.S. Rep. Bill Sali, R-Idaho, said Friday that his complaints about the slogan - "Always Think Forfeiture" - persuaded the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to end its use on the Leatherman tools handed out to participants in a training program.

But a spokesman for the federal agency said Friday that the agency actually stopped using the slogan about two months ago, when other members of Congress first raised concerns.

While Sali claimed credit for it Friday in a press release, ATF first fielded congressional calls about the matter in late March, said the agency's spokesman, Robert Browning. Based on those inquiries, the agency decided to discontinue the slogan outright, Browning said.

"Because it has caused concern among the public, we are no longer utilizing that slogan in our training sessions," he said.

The phrase was used as part of ATF's training program to teach investigators around the country that they can properly seize the assets of the lawbreakers they arrest.

The slogan had been in use for a decade, Browning said, and until now, no one had ever complained about it.


So the agency now claims that it nicknamed itself "always think forfeiture" ten years ago? Sometimes the jokes write themselves. Except when they're too sad to be funny.

39 posted on 06/06/2008 2:28:18 PM PDT by lainie ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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(Forgive me for wordiness, but these things keep disappearing off websites.)

ATF apologizes to Sali for misleading letter
4:39 PM MDT on Saturday, May 31, 2008

(Associated Press) BOISE -- The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives apologized to U.S. Rep. Bill Sali of Idaho for a misleading letter indicating he played a role in the agency's decision to drop its "Always Think Forfeiture" slogan.

Sali claimed responsibility two weeks ago, only to learn later from news organizations he had nothing to do with it.

The slogan was actually abandoned in March after Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska complained.

Two-thousand multi-tools were engraved with the slogan and were to be handed out at ATF training sessions for law enforcement agents.

But lawmakers including Sali feared it would encourage agents to seize weapons from even law-abiding citizens.

In his apology last week, acting ATF director Michael Sullivan conceded the agency had distributed 242 engraved multi-tools.

Previously, the agency maintained none had been distributed.

40 posted on 06/06/2008 2:53:52 PM PDT by lainie ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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