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Initiative Would Exempt Cigar Bars From Indoor Smoking Ban (Washington State)
OPB News (Oregon) ^ | March 19, 2008 | Austin Jenkins

Posted on 03/20/2008 7:24:52 PM PDT by Stoat

Initiative Would Exempt Cigar Bars From Indoor Smoking Ban

By Austin Jenkins

Olympia, WA  March 19, 2008 3:28 p.m.

 

Washington State’s two-year-old indoor smoking ban is facing a challenge. Cigar shop owners have filed a citizen initiative to roll-back part of the law.

Dale Taylor is with the newly formed Cigar Association of Washington. He says the initiative would allow smoking in cigar shops, cigar bars, private clubs and service organizations like the Elks.

Dale Taylor: “What we’re asking for here is a fair and reasonable exemption to the law that allows a cigar store, for instance like the one I work in, to allow the customers to smoke the cigars that they buy here. And cigar bars which there used to be more than a few around the greater Seattle area and in the state.”

Sponsors have until June 30th to collect 225,000 valid voter signatures to get the measure on the November ballot.

Backers of the indoor smoking ban are concerned the initiative would create unintended loopholes in the law. For instance they say a bar might call itself a private club in order to allow patrons to smoke.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 1016; cigar; cigars; initiative; initiative1016; pufflist; smokers; smoking; smokingban; washington; washingtonstate
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To: Stoat

So where do we go to sign the initiative?

Would it also include pipes?


21 posted on 03/20/2008 10:42:50 PM PDT by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold)
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To: verklaring; All
So where do we go to sign the initiative?

I would imagine that any serious cigar store or tobacconist near you would probably have copies of the petition to sign.  If not, you can call or e-mail The Cigar Association of Washington, and they 'should' be able to tell you where in your area you can sign it.

I-1016, Cigar Association of Washington

5963 Corson Ave. S. Suite 130 • Seattle, WA 98108

206-767-2048 PH

206-767-3629 FAX

info@cigarwa.com

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If you would like to read the petition online and even print out a copy and gather signatures yourself, a PDF copy of the petition is available for download from the CAW website

Cigar Association of Washington

(scroll down to the bottom of the page and doubleclick on the "I-1016 Petition" link, or doubleclick here to get to the petition instantly)

<<<Please be advised that you will need to have (at minimum) the free Adobe Reader installed on your computer to be able to open the .pdf file.  If you don't have it, you can download it here:

Adobe - Adobe Reader download

I'm sure that the Cigar Association of Washington would be delighted if you were to send them a petition with lots of valid signatures on it, including yours  :-)

Would it also include pipes?

Yes.  From the petition's text:

(1) “Smoke” or “smoking” means the

carrying or smoking of any kind of lighted

pipe, cigar, cigarette, or any other lighted

smoking equipment.

 


22 posted on 03/21/2008 2:56:41 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Gondring
...would create unintended loopholes in the law. For instance they say a bar might call itself a private club in order to allow patrons to smoke.

What's wrong with that? Then the nonsmokers couldn't come in and do their fake coughing and other silly tactics.

23 posted on 03/21/2008 5:26:21 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Bill Clinton: HILLARY!'s other big ass)
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To: NRA1995

Uh...that was my point.


24 posted on 03/21/2008 6:22:27 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: NRA1995

Uh...that was my point.


25 posted on 03/21/2008 6:22:27 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Stoat

Where do I sign.

Hallelujah!!


26 posted on 03/21/2008 7:53:57 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Stoat; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; Mears; ...

Nanny State PING


27 posted on 03/21/2008 7:58:44 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Stoat

I can’t understand why they couldn’t allow something REASONABLE and not EXTREME in the first place. Utterly ridiculous and STUPID.


28 posted on 03/21/2008 8:18:26 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Gabz
Feh! They have a cigar bar down the street near our new slot-machine tourist and sucker trap.

You can't get a drink or smoke a cigarette there and the cigar snots are obnoxious anyway.

29 posted on 03/21/2008 8:27:19 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Stoat
Backers of the indoor smoking ban are concerned the initiative would create unintended loopholes in the law.

Oh my! Wouldn't want that! Smoke, the horror, the horror!

30 posted on 03/21/2008 8:36:42 AM PDT by Lexinom ("Change": what's left after President Obama sends you your tax bill.)
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To: Gondring

Hooka lounges are popping up left and right on Long Island, and I’ve seen several in NJ, too.

Regards,


31 posted on 03/21/2008 9:03:39 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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To: VermiciousKnid
Hooka lounges are popping up left and right on Long Island,

Don't let Eliot Spitzer overhear that! ;-)

32 posted on 03/21/2008 11:17:10 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: RinaseaofDs
Where do I sign.

Please see post #22  :-)

Hallelujah!!

Indeed!  It's going to be a long, tough fight though. 

33 posted on 03/21/2008 12:54:45 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Gabz
Thank you very much for pinging your list  :-)

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34 posted on 03/21/2008 12:55:30 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: GOP_Lady
I can’t understand why they couldn’t allow something REASONABLE and not EXTREME in the first place. Utterly ridiculous and STUPID.

Well, there are a number of reasons why why call this The People's Republic of Washington, and this is one of them.

"sigh"

 

35 posted on 03/21/2008 12:57:42 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Lexinom
Backers of the indoor smoking ban are concerned the initiative would create unintended loopholes in the law.

Oh my! Wouldn't want that! Smoke, the horror, the horror!
 

The way that the hysterical anti-smoking zealots around here act, you'd think that people who smoke are intentionally trying to kill them. 

I have come to view smoking, and particularly the smoking of magnificently large cigars or pipes, as being as much or more of a 'statement' as when the innumerable greasy and unwashed commies wear their "Che!" T-shirts.  If I'm in a particularly moody disposition, I light up a stogie and walk down the street.  I'm not breaking any laws (yet) but the expressions of utter rage and disgust on the faces of the Seattle Left are just priceless  :-)

36 posted on 03/21/2008 1:12:58 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: metesky
Feh!

 Oy Vey!

37 posted on 03/21/2008 1:15:25 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

We have the same thing here in Ohio of all places. It’s totally ridiculous. I’m counting down the weeks (7) until hubby and are in Vegas, where hubby can enjoy a cigar with his adult beverage (oh, the horror)! Nazis.


38 posted on 03/21/2008 1:27:38 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady
I've never visited The Sagebrush State but you've identified one of probably many reasons to.  I'm not a gambler but it would be nice to be able to relax awhile among reasonable people for a change, and I understand that the scenery in many areas is spectacular.  I hope that you and your husband will have a very enjoyable vacation  :-)
39 posted on 03/21/2008 1:47:11 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

You’re quite welcome. Don’t ever hesitate to ask, no guarantee when I’ll see it, but when I do I am more than happy to oblige!!!


40 posted on 03/21/2008 2:02:50 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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