Posted on 03/21/2008 4:01:06 AM PDT by chessplayer
Senator Barack Obama is not a Muslim, contrary to invidious rumors. But he belongs to a Christian church whose doctrine casts Jesus Christ as a "black messiah" and blacks as "the chosen people". At best, this is a radically different kind of Christianity than most Americans acknowledge; at worst it is an ethnocentric heresy.
Biblical theology teaches that even the most terrible events to befall Israel, such as the Babylonian destruction of Jerusalem in 586 BCE, embody the workings of divine justice, even if humankind cannot see God's purpose. James Cone sees the matter very differently. Either God must do what we want him to do, or we must reject him, Cone maintains:
Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love. [1]
(Excerpt) Read more at atimes.com ...
Absolutely!
Unless, of course, it's true.
“Obama is not muslim”
Maybe but he has muslim roots and he could be a muslim as marxists are strong muslims’ fellows for their fight against the western “free” “christian” world.
Some marxists “converted” to islam...
They have shaped a “religion” into their own mold. Then they use it to justify their racist behavior.
Sounds like Islamism 101.
It’s a simple rule, if you ain’t Catholic, you’re a heretic.
“Real Face Of Jesus: December 2002 Cover Story
Advances in forensic science reveal the most famous face in history.”
“From the first time Christian children settle into Sunday school classrooms, an image of Jesus Christ is etched into their minds. In North America he is most often depicted as being taller than his disciples, lean, with long, flowing, light brown hair, fair skin and light-colored eyes. Familiar though this image may be, it is inherently flawed. A person with these features and physical bearing would have looked very different from everyone else in the region where Jesus lived and ministered. Surely the authors of the Bible would have mentioned so stark a contrast. On the contrary, according to the Gospel of Matthew, when Jesus was arrested in the garden of Gethsemane before the Crucifixion, Judas Iscariot had to indicate to the soldiers whom Jesus was because they could not tell him apart from his disciples.”
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/1282186.html
The only other thing that gives us a hint as to what Jesus really looked like is the Shroud of Turin.
And Hannity refused to answer the question.
Just as the simple claim that one is a conservative does not make one a conservative, one is not a Constitutionalist unless one believes in the entire Constitution accepting the risk and responsibilities that come along with the rights, no man is a Christian who does not accept every work in the Bible as spoken by God.
Barak’s church is not a Christian church, black liberation theology is not part of Christian teachings, but this attack on his pastor and his preaching is a sword that will come back to haunt many.
I am familiar with the teachings of the woman minister who pastored the church that President George Bush called home in Kennebunkport, fundamental Christians who believe in the teachings of the Bible would have a field day with her sermons and her being a pastor.
While I don’t know Sean Hannity’s pastor, I don’t even know if he has a home church, I will say with absolute certainty that if he does and if I and many here on FR had access to his sermons over the last ten years, and we held Sean responsible for those sermons as Barak is being held responsible for his pastors sermons, Sean would not be number two.
Mark my words, these attacks on Obama based not upon his record or his sayings, but what has been said by his associates and family, will come back to haunt many a candidate in the future.
The lineage of Jesus does not go back to Moses' Ethiopian wife, so Jesus was not black.
The problem is, we are just beginning to find out what change means. Obama is a racist without doubt. We need to find out what else he is.
The first thing that needs to happen is for the press to start to string toghether all of his racist ties and then admit who he is. Well maby who he is not! He is not a man to unite the country. He is not a man truthfully telling us who he is.
The problem is, we are just beginning to find out what change means. Obama is a racist without doubt. We need to find out what else he is.
The first thing that needs to happen is for the press to start to string toghether all of his racist ties and then admit who he is. Well maby who he is not! He is not a man to unite the country. He is not a man truthfully telling us who he is.
that would be an artist conception, much like the artist conception of the so called missing links drawn from a tooth or a bone fragment.
We have the lineage of Jesus in the Bible, that tells us much, for instance we have a very good description of David, who is in the direct line of Jesus. We have an excellent description of Absolom, one of David's sons.
This is whole idea of “black liberation theology” is nuts. Theology is the study of God and the divine nature of God. He is what He is. One seeks after the truth of that, presumably so that one may direct his life accordingly.
“Black liberation theology”—to the extent that it’s not just packaging to pretty-up radical politics—reverses the equation. It focuses on self, then hands God a to-do list.
It makes no more sense than black liberation geology.
Do these ‘Christian’ churches even do any preaching about the teachings of Jesus Christ? They seem to be all about political activism-—whining instead of worship.
This is an example of what Cone teaches? Go ahead, someone tell me I'm reading this out of context.
If the "Reverend" Wright deserves anything, it is an apology that the bad example of white bigots of a hundred years ago has helped him make himself a bitter, bile-spitting, crazy old black racist, at a point in history where everyone I know has a pretty good opinion of blacks in general...except, often, themselves.
Yep.....Looking for God’s hand for help rather than looking for his face and a smile.
Remember how the lib media tried to join Bush at the hip with Bob Jones when he gave one speech at Jones`s university? Bush apologized for it, and the libs still would`nt let it go.
I'm appalled by how so many talking heads, legends in their own minds, will not leave this man alone. Never loose sight of the fact that I consider UCC to be a cult, not a Christian religion or denomination. They support homosexual marriage and ordination, they support public funded abortion on demand thru the ninth month, and ever so much more. Give me half a day and I'll rip Obama apart for using the Sermon on the Mount as justification for same sex sodomy.
Obama is very vulnerable on his own, why bring in his wife and pastor, what's next his little girls? Where does it stop? And does this not open the door for a real critical look at McCains father in law, his business dealings and the things he has said?
I Samuel 17:42 And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and *ruddy*, and of a *fair* countenance.
This word *ruddy* is what the word 'the' Adam from Genesis 2, means *ruddy* and *ruddy* Strong's Hebrew #119 means to show blood ( in the face), i.e. flush or turn rosy: - be (dyed, made) red (ruddy) Oh and Moses did not marry a native Ethiopian woman.
This is racist hate, pure and simple.
It is not some sort of alternate Christian theology.
It has nothing to do with Christianity.
The people that spout this hate would be ostracized and driven into hiding if they were whites saying the same things about blacks.
It doesn’t matter how this garbage is cloaked in high flying terms that make it sound less threatening or how it is discussed by knuckleheaded liberals as a serious departure from mainstream Christianity - it is nothing but venomous, vile hate.
Imagine if these “sermons” were published word for word but with the hateful references to whites replaced with the same hateful references to blacks.
Look what happened to Geraldine Ferraro for daring to make the factual observation that Obama got the black vote and the Kumbaya white vote because he is black.
Anyone who considers this trash anything more than open racist and ethnic hate cannot be taken seriously.
Yes, certainly not an African black.
As well they should be, for all people are direct descendants of Adam and Eve, color should have no part or play in Christianity, nor does it Scripturally. I would prefer my children marry Christians of another color than a non Christian of the same color.
Exactly. And is also why he shouldn't be given a pass on this.
It's almost the same as saying a white candidate was a member of the KKK for 20 years but never attended meetings where racist slurs were used against Black people.
And I was frustrated by that. Hannity should have out-shouted him with, "Sir, I have no time to be reading communist books; they're a dime a dozen and they all sound alike; and they're all fairy tales!"
“christian”?
You said “christian”?What else?What kind of christian?
Roger Garaudy was a marxist french philosopher who “converted” to christianism and then “converted” to islam...During the ast years he was the guest of meetings in islamic countries making antisemitic statements...
Christian? What christian?
What are you asking?
Christian like Hussein Obama?
“Peculiar” is media-speak for “racist”. In another FR headline the media uses the term “provocative” for the same purposes. They will label it anything but what it really is.
Very well said and Biblical too.
There is a very insidious problem in the American Churches today, and that is that they have rejected the Authority of Scripture on the Whole and have cherry picked what they want just for that moment.
The results of this Cherry Picking, is a dissolution of good church doctrine and biblical morals. It is inevitable and it is predictable (and predicted in the Bible).
The worst of this has been the abandonment of Christ for a new Mother god Gaia and a new trinity "Mother, Womb and Child". The the end result of abandoning the Authority of Scripture again is the same Paganism and Immorality the Apostle Paul faced in Corinth and the surrounding areas.
Awaiting beyond Paganism, is a return to child sacrifice as was a common practice in Old Testament times.
Also there is a new old threat, looming on the horizon, and that is "Honor Killings". Honor Killings are when women are viewed as property and that they have no souls. This problem has been in the middle east and Africa but is now spreading rapidly. Why is this?
Because the Scripture and Good Doctrine - Such as found in the Westminster Confession of Faith - have been abandoned long ago in many liberal mainstream churches. The seeds of these problems occurred long ago and are entrenched.
To your Tents Oh Israel
You’ve got to be kidding? I can’t remember a single inappropriate or controversial thing my Irish priest ever said in a sermon. . .in fact, I can’t remember anything he said in a sermon. . .in fact. . I don’t even remember my priest ever giving a sermon. . . .he made a few comments and then it was back to the Mass with the bells a-ringing and the knees a-genuflecting.
Priest don’t give sermons? What do you guys do in church?
Theology is the study of God and the divine nature of God. He is what He is. One seeks after the truth of that, presumably so that one may direct his life accordingly. “Black liberation theology”—to the extent that it’s not just packaging to pretty-up radical politics—reverses the equation. It focuses on self, then hands God a to-do list. It makes no more sense than black liberation geology.
That's exactly what this is about! Cloaking activism in religion.....and handing God a To-Do list!
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.