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Immigration group looks to clear myths
Express-News Washington Bureau ^ | 03/21/2008 | Gary Martin

Posted on 03/21/2008 11:32:49 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

WASHINGTON — In a response to anti-immigrant sentiment and an increase in hate crimes against Latinos, a Hispanic rights group launched an effort Thursday to debunk myths espoused by media talk shows and political campaigns.

The Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund unveiled the "Truth in Immigration" campaign to rebut legal and factual inaccuracies about immigrants, particularly Latinos, in the United States.

"Right now the airwaves are dominated by a few that speak very negatively and falsely about immigrants and immigration," said John Trasviña, MALDEF president and general counsel.

Trasviña said the Web site —, which will be updated several times a week — will provide scholarly studies and reasoned rebuttal.

"There are facts, and law, on our side in terms of these issues," he said.

The impetus for the campaign was a report released March 10 by the Southern Poverty Law Center that found a correlation between recent anti-immigrant rhetoric and an increase in hate crimes against Latinos.

More coverage •Visit the Truth in Immigration Web site.

That report, "The Year in Hate," said there were 888 hate crimes against Latinos in 2007, up from 844 in 2006 and 602 in 2005. It cited a separate FBI study showing a 35 percent increase in such crimes against Latinos from 2003 to 2006.

The Federation for American Immigration Reform, identified in the report as a hate group, accused the civil rights organization of playing with hate crime numbers to serve its political purposes.

"The SPLC manipulates the data to reach deceitful conclusions, tosses the term 'hate group' at highly respected organizations like FAIR, and then mixes the two in an attempt to stop our national debate over immigration reform," FAIR President Dan Stein said after the report's release.

MALDEF, meanwhile, said the upcoming debate in Congress on border enforcement measures, as well as political campaigns this fall, could fuel anti-immigrant rhetoric and an increase in bigotry and violence against the Latino community.

"This comes at a time when we have legislation coming up in the House and the Senate that would take us backward on immigration, rather than forward," Trasviña said.

House Republicans are pressuring Democratic leaders for a vote on a bipartisan bill called the Secure America through Verification and Enforcement Act. The measure calls for an e-verification system for employers to check on the immigration status of workers, and would provide more Border Patrol agents to crack down on illegal immigration on the Southwest border.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: aliens; fair; freespeech; illegalimmigration; immigration; maldef; splc; stalinisttactics; thoughtcrime
What about the increase in crimes by ILLEGAL aliens against Latinos, Martin?
1 posted on 03/21/2008 11:32:51 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

You want “truth in immigration?” OK.

You’re here illegally. Go home, get out, and take your anchor babies with you, or we will arrest you for breaking our laws and throw you out.

And that’s the truth. In my ideal world, anyhow.


2 posted on 03/21/2008 11:35:09 AM PDT by Moose4 (Hey GOP...don't move toward the middle. Move the middle toward us.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
In a response to anti-immigrant sentiment...

There is no "anti-immigrant sentiment." There is, however, anti-ILLEGAL alien sentiment. And rightly so.

and an increase in hate crimes against Latinos

I'm going to need to see some hard numbers here. I honestly don't believe this claim is true. If there were truly an increase in "hate crimes" against Latinos, it'd be splashed across the front page of every liberal paper every day. But it's not. That in itself speaks volumes.

a Hispanic rights group launched an effort Thursday to debunk myths espoused by media talk shows and political campaigns.

Here's an idea: how about they criticize Mexico's immigration policies? If you're an illegal in that state, you get no rights, no health care, no jobs, no welfare, no advocacy, and no help whatsoever. In fact, the only thing you get is a beatdown by the federales and an unceremonious deportation back to your homeland. And they don't give a tinker's damn about your sob story.

But if the U.S. does even 1/10th of 1% of that to the illegal invaders here, we're somehow the bad guys.

Here's a clue to you pro-illegal types: how about you clean up the hellhole of your own nation instead of trying to transform our nation into one? Thank you and please leave.

3 posted on 03/21/2008 11:42:58 AM PDT by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: SwinneySwitch

If I may generalize, it’s not that Americans are anti-immigration, anti-immigration, anti-immigration....(repeat as much as possible), it’s that Americans are against illegal immigration.

4 posted on 03/21/2008 11:46:02 AM PDT by loungeSerf (If the theatre is on fire it's ok to shout Fire!)
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To: loungeSerf
it’s that Americans are against illegal immigration.

But of course they want to leave the word 'illegal' out. They can't make it a race issue as long as that word is in there.

5 posted on 03/21/2008 11:48:22 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Illegal Alien Activity Tracking System.

6 posted on 03/21/2008 11:50:23 AM PDT by rocksblues (Tagline on hold)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Eet's seemple, Trasviña:

  1. Eef you're here Legally, you are an IMMIGRANT.

  2. Eef you are here Illegally, you are a da*ned wetback INVADER.


7 posted on 03/21/2008 11:50:52 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: SwinneySwitch
see: Illegal Hispanic Hate Crimes Against White Americans
Posted January 2, 2008

Blacks are just 13 percent of the population but they commit more than half the muggings and murders in the country. Hispanics commit violent crimes at about three times the white rate.

Crime Rates
• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.

Interracial Crime
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.
• Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
• Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.
• Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.

The Color Of Crime And The New Orleans Nightmare: George W. Bush vs. Jared Taylor

8 posted on 03/21/2008 12:00:33 PM PDT by antonia (Build the Wall Now! "Drill right now, Drill today, Drill all night, Drill all the way!")
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To: SwinneySwitch
Immigration group looks to clear myths

Among them: They're here only to do jobs that Americans won't. They have great family values, and they are net contributors to our prosperity.

9 posted on 03/21/2008 12:05:41 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.)
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To: E. Cartman

Ooh, I want in on this, too. They pay taxes. Social Security would sink without them.

10 posted on 03/21/2008 12:21:06 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (Forget "Who is John Galt?" I want to know "Where is Galt's Gulch?")
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To: SwinneySwitch

A visit to my local E R tells me all I need to know.

11 posted on 03/21/2008 12:23:10 PM PDT by Melinda
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To: SwinneySwitch
In a response to anti-immigrant sentiment. . . . (Stopped reading here.)

If the organization's people don't have the courtesy and intellectual honesty to acknowledge (and make clear to all that they do understand) that our anti- sentiment is anti-ILLEGAL aliens then screw 'em.

12 posted on 03/21/2008 12:31:20 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Another group wants to splain themselves.

What a joke.

13 posted on 03/21/2008 12:39:09 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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Actually, if you are here legally but have no intent to stay permanently (e.g., on a work, student or tourist visa), then you’re not even an immigrant.

14 posted on 03/21/2008 1:21:04 PM PDT by RonF
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To: SwinneySwitch

Now, now, now, Swinney, let’s not talk about that. But thanks for the incoming MALDEF alert - incoming racist propoganda alert!

15 posted on 03/21/2008 1:51:50 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: SwinneySwitch

Given that they define FAIR as a hate group, I’d like to see their definition of a hate crime.

16 posted on 03/21/2008 1:53:43 PM PDT by RonF
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To: SwinneySwitch

I haven’t heard of any “hate” crimes against Latinos due to anti-illegal alien rhetoric.

Do I live under a rock or something?

Do I need to get up to speed here?

17 posted on 03/21/2008 2:19:17 PM PDT by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Their real game plan is get advertisers to boycott Rush, Hannity and others that are anti illegal immigration. You’ll hear the phrase “hate speech” a lot as they try and stifle their opponents

They will pressure various media claiming they can mobilize consumer boycotts by Hispanics. They are scum and the Mexican Gov’t might be involved

18 posted on 03/21/2008 3:06:24 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: antonia

Sssshhh.... don’t you know you’re not supposed to talk about that stuff here?

19 posted on 03/21/2008 3:30:05 PM PDT by ROP_RIP
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Ooh, I want in on this, too. They pay taxes. Social Security would sink without them.



Social Security Agreement with Mexico Released After 3-1/2 Year Freedom of Information Act Battle

Illegal Mexican Workers Could Receive Billions of Dollars from U.S. Social Security System

January 4, 2007 (Washington, DC) – After numerous refusals over three and a half years, the Social Security Administration (SSA) has released the first known public copy of the U.S.-Mexico Social Security Totalization Agreement. The government made the disclosure in response to lawsuits filed under the Freedom of Information Act by TREA Senior Citizens League, a 1.2 million member nonpartisan seniors advocacy group.

The Totalization Agreement could allow millions of illegal Mexican workers to draw billions of dollars from the U.S. Social Security Trust Fund.

A loophole in current Social Security law could allow millions of today’s Mexican workers to eventually collect billions of dollars worth of Social Security benefits for earnings under fraudulent or “non-work authorized” Social Security numbers, putting huge new pressures on the Social Security Trust Fund.

If an illegal worker working in the United States today gets a “work authorized” Social Security number through guest worker immigration legislation, the Totalization Agreement, or perhaps just over time, that worker could eventually apply for Social Security benefits once he or she has met eligibility requirements.

In addition, that worker could be able to claim credits for work performed while in the U.S. illegally. The SSA maintains an “earnings suspense file,” which tracks wages that cannot be posted to individual workers’ records because there is no match for a name and Social Security number. Once an immigrant gains access to a work authorized Social Security number – whether a legal citizen or not – wages earned while in the U.S. unlawfully could be reinstated to the worker’s new Social Security account.

The Congressional Research Service reports the earnings suspense file currently stands at approximately $520 billion. According to the congressional testimony of SSA Inspector General Patrick P. O’Carroll in February 2006, “We believe the chief cause of wage items being posted to the earnings suspense file instead of an individual’s earning record is unauthorized work by non citizens.”

20 posted on 03/21/2008 4:55:29 PM PDT by Cricket 23 (For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Cricket 23
They pay taxes. Social Security would sink without them.

Tuesday, October 28, 2003

Remittances to Mexico Exceed Investment as Source of Income
By Ginger Thompson
The New York Times -- MEXICO CITY

Nearly one Mexican in five regularly gets money from relatives employed in the United States, making Mexico the largest repository of such remittances in the world, according to a poll sponsored by the Inter-American Development Bank.

The pollster, Sergio Bendixen, estimated that the payments help feed, house and educate at least a quarter of Mexico's 100 million people.

The poll was part of a report on Monday by the bank, which said money sent home by all Mexican immigrants would soar to $14.5 billion this year, exceeding tourism and direct foreign investment to become this country's second most important source of income. Oil remains No. 1.

Bendixen said the poll offered forceful evidence that remittances not only sustained this country's rural poor but had also become important to urban working-class households.

Roberto Suro, director of the Pew Hispanic Center, estimated that annual remittances to Mexico and Central America could reach $25 billion by the end of the decade, a vast sum made of countless tiny payments by America's lowest paid workers.

" This is not necessarily something to celebrate," said Don Terry, manager of the Multilateral Investment Fund. "It means that the Mexican economy is not expanding, and so people have had to leave."

Indeed, in addition to showing a significant jump in remittances, the report opened a window onto the shifts in illegal immigration to the United States since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

In the wake of the attacks, the United States almost immediately dispatched more staff members and machinery to bolster law enforcement operations on its border with Mexico, and it was believed that the heightened security would discourage immigrants from illegal crossing.

With fewer immigrants heading north, experts on both sides of the border predicted, remittances to Latin America would sharply decline. And the shrinking American economy was expected to force immigrants out of work, leaving them less money to send home.

Those forecasts, according to the Inter-American Development Bank and immigration experts, have proved wrong.

21 posted on 03/21/2008 7:16:10 PM PDT by antonia (Build the Wall Now! "Drill right now, Drill today, Drill all night, Drill all the way!")
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To: antonia; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...


22 posted on 03/21/2008 8:26:32 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ ~)
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To: SwinneySwitch

How about the crimes illegal latinos cause against citizens in this country?

23 posted on 03/21/2008 8:51:19 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: loungeSerf
Let's make a proposal:

We're going to give five year guest worker visas to five million of the most qualified illegal immigrants. Four year guest worker visas to the four million next most qualified and on down to one year guest worker visas to one million of the minimally qualified. That's fifteen million guest worker visas in all, three quarters of what the race pimp lobby was supposedly asking for under McCain-Feinglod.

This is what we want in return:

  1. No more Spanish language ballots. We need the money to select the best 15 million guest workers. American citizenship is required to vote anyway and (supposedly) you need to speak English to gain citizenship. So Spanish language ballots won't be necessary.

  2. No more government services for illegal aliens except life-saving medical and deportation. There is a way to get legal now. Therefore, there should be no need to get these services as an illegal alien.

  3. No more specials for Hispanics. Hispanic isn't a race anyway. It has no more right to it's own racial classification than Danes, Slovaks, Syrians or any other group which doesn't have their own little classification and affirmative action quota.

  4. Preference points on the 15 million guest worker visas will be given to people who are (a)gainfully employed and pay taxes, (b)have clean criminal histories, (c)have used less than their share of government freebies, (d)learned our language, history and culture (a written exam-- in English-- being one way to establish the proper tiers), and (e)come from countries who demonstrate a cooperative attitude to America including non-encouragement of illegal immigration, willingness to extradite criminals and support for the United State in intenational affairs.

Everyone of the above requirements is reasonable, proper and similar to what any country with a sane immigration policy requires. And we're offering 15 million guest worker visas to sweeten the pot. Do you suppose MALDeF will go for it? Any of it? Nah, I didn't think so either.
24 posted on 03/22/2008 8:18:31 AM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: television is just wrong

What Crimes?

August 2007 Manuel De Jesus Gonzalez-Geronimo, a Guatemalan illegal alien, surrendered a day after killing two construction workers and seriously injuring two others in a hit-and-run accident in Montgomery County, Maryland. He told police he ran because he “was scared and didn’t have a license.” (Washington Post, August 15, 2007)
August 2007 Alejandro Bautista, who admitted to entering the United States illegally from Mexico, was sentenced to 6 year in prison for criminal sexual assault and aggravated criminal sexual abuse against two teenage brothers. (Chicago Tribune, August 14, 2007)
August 2007 Jose Carranza, a Peruvian illegal alien, was charged with the execution-style shooting of four teenagers, three of whom were killed. Carranza had been indicted twice earlier in the year for sexual assault on a child and for a bar fight. He was free on bond, and immigration authorities had not been contacted in his case. Another suspect in the shootings, Rodolfo Godinez, reportedly obtained legal U.S. residence in 2001 despite a lengthy arrest record. (AP news in Washington Times, August 14, 2007)
August 2007 Alejandro Rivera Gamboa and Gilberto Arellano Gamboa, Mexican illegal immigrants, were charged with killing a teenage girl from Texas visiting in Oregon. Rivera Gamboa, who was in possession of an Oregon state ID, card had been arrested four times in Oregon since 2000 for drunken driving. Immigration authorities said they had never been contacted by Oregon authorities. (Associated Press Texas news, August 10, 2007)
August 2007 Rocca Mejia Cinto, a 19-year old Mexican illegal immigrant was apprehended in Pennsylvania after fleeing from New York City where he is accused of “a senseless act of violence” in the unprovoked stabbing death of a 44-year old father of two. Authorities speculated that Mejia Cinto’s action was provoked by his involvement in gang warfare. (Standard Speaker [Pa.], August 9, 2007)
July 2007 Nilssen Torres Paredes, an Ecuadorian illegal immigrant, pleaded guilty in New York to manslaughter for the drunken driving accident that killed two people when he struck a car while speeding and driving the wrong way. He had illegally reentered the United States after being deported in 1997 after a conviction on weapons charges. (Newsday, July 31, 2007)
July 2007 David Raigoza Franco, a 34-year-old illegal immigrant, was charged with criminally negligent homicide and drunk driving for an accident that killed his 8-year old daughter. He was using false identification, but was identified through his fingerprints to have a criminal record and outstanding warrants for arrest including for probation violation. ( 7/24/07 and KRTV News, 7/25/07)
July 2007 Gilberto Cruz, an illegal alien, was convicted of first-degree murder for the shotgun slaying of his former girlfriend in Colorado. He commented at his trial (as translated), “If I knew how to use the shotgun, she wouldn’t have died in the street, she would have been dead in the house.”
July 2007 A 24-year old Mexican man was arrested in Arizona for entering the country illegally. He had been convicted in 2006 of child molestation in Florida and deported earlier this year.
July 2007 Marcelo Mota, a Brazilian illegal immigrant, was arrested in New Jersey on charges of serial rape and sexual assault in cases in the Boston and New York City areas dating back to at least 2003 to which he has confessed. He arrived in 2001 on a visitor’s visa and stayed illegally. (The Boston Globe, July 17, 2007)
July 2007 Jose Valenzuela, a Mexican, was arrested in Ohio for having returned following his deportation for having been convicted in 1998 of “gross sexual imposition involving a juvenile girl.” (The Dayton Daily News, July 11, 2007

25 posted on 03/22/2008 10:04:02 AM PDT by Cricket 23 (For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: RonF

Now here’s a hate group!

Behind the respectable front of the National Council of La Raza lies the
real agenda of the La Raza movement, the agenda that led to those thousands
of illegal immigrants in the streets of American cities, waving Mexican
flags, brazenly defying our laws, and demanding concessions.

Key among the secondary organizations is the radical racist group Movimiento
Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan
(MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has
permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a
racist nation out of the American West.

One of America’s greatest strengths has always been taking in immigrants
from cultures around the world, and assimilating them into our country as
Americans. By being citizens of the U.S. we are Americans first, and only,
in our national loyalties.

This is totally opposed by MEChA for the hordes of illegal immigrants
pouring across our borders, to whom they say:

“Chicano is our identity; it defines who we are as people. It rejects the
notion that we...should assimilate into the Anglo-American melting
pot...Aztlan was the legendary homeland of the Aztecas ... It became
synonymous with the vast territories of the Southwest, brutally stolen from
a Mexican people marginalized and betrayed by the hostile custodians of the
Manifest Destiny.” (Statement on University of Oregon MEChA Website, Jan. 3,

MEChA isn’t at all shy about their goals, or their views of other races.
Their founding principles are contained in these words in “El Plan
Espiritual de Aztlan” (The Spiritual Plan for Aztlan):

“In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud
historical heritage but also of the brutal gringo invasion of our
territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land
of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their
birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare
that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our
inevitable destiny. ... Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water
the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. ... We
are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of
North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a
nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan. For La Raza todo.
Fuera de La Raza nada.”

That closing two-sentence motto is chilling to everyone who values equal
rights for all. It says: “For The Race everything. Outside The Race,

26 posted on 03/22/2008 10:09:02 AM PDT by Cricket 23 (For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: dennisw
Thanks for the information about the efforts to impose a version of the "Fairness Doctrine." I am sure that the criminal government of Mexicorruption is involved.

Let's see if these talk show hosts will go straight to the offensive as Michael Savage did with his legal actions against radical Islam's CAIR. I hope so.

27 posted on 03/22/2008 10:20:35 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Here is what the open borders POS want to do to stifle free speech on illegal immigration——>>>

28 posted on 03/22/2008 10:41:41 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

“Southern Poverty Law Center”

What’s the real record on this group???

29 posted on 03/22/2008 2:55:25 PM PDT by WOSG (Solve all the world's problems .... Just build more nukes already.)
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To: Califreak

“Do I need to get up to speed here?”

Drink the spiked koolaid and you will ‘get it’ that complaining about illegal immigration is now ‘hate speech’.

30 posted on 03/22/2008 3:00:57 PM PDT by WOSG (Solve all the world's problems .... Just build more nukes already.)
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