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Adults Forced Back Into Parents' Homes - Middle-Aged Children Starting Over With Mom, Dad
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Posted on 03/21/2008 12:05:34 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Adults Forced Back Into Parents' Homes Middle-Aged Children Starting Over With Mom, Dad

UPDATED: 2:45 pm EDT March 21, 2008 MILWAUKEE -- After being laid off from her job as an events planner at an upscale resort, Jo Ann Bauer struggled financially. She worked at several lower-paying jobs, relocated to a new city and even declared bankruptcy.

Then in December, she finally accepted her parents' invitation to move into their home -- at age 52. "I'm back living in the bedroom that I grew up in," she said.

Taking shelter with parents isn't uncommon for young people in their 20s, especially when the job market is poor. But now the slumping economy and the credit crunch are forcing some children to do so later in life -- even in middle age.

Financial planners report receiving many calls from parents seeking advice about taking in their grown children following divorces and layoffs.

Kim Foss Erickson, a financial planner in Roseville, Calif., north of Sacramento, said she has never seen older children, even those in their 50s, depending so much on their parents as in the last six months.

"This is not like, 'OK, my son just graduated from college and needs to move back in' type of thing," she said. "These are 40- and 50-year-old children of my clients that they're helping out."

Parents "jeopardize their financial freedom by continuing to subsidize their children," said Karin Maloney Stifler, a financial planner in Hudson, Ohio, and a board member of the Financial Planning Association. "We have a hard time saying no as a culture to our children, and they keep asking for more."

Bauer's parents won't take rent money or let her help much with groceries.

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Oh cry me a river.......

The reporter forgot to mention that it was all Bush's fault....

1 posted on 03/21/2008 12:05:35 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
Here's your answer:

"We have a hard time saying no as a culture to our children, and they keep asking for more."
2 posted on 03/21/2008 12:07:42 PM PDT by Lucky9teen ("Get all the fools on your side and you can be elected to anything.")
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To: Sub-Driver

Don’t forget global warming.


3 posted on 03/21/2008 12:07:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is obviously another unintended consequence of ETHANOL MADNESS...............


4 posted on 03/21/2008 12:10:13 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Sub-Driver
"even declared bankruptcy"

Wow, that's dig deep responsibility!


5 posted on 03/21/2008 12:10:26 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m not going to believe this is a problem until children in their 70’s and 80’s have to move back in with their parents who are in their 90’s and 100’s.


6 posted on 03/21/2008 12:11:05 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Sub-Driver
But now the slumping economy and the credit crunch are forcing some children to do so later in life -- even in middle age.

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Forcing? Please.

7 posted on 03/21/2008 12:11:17 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Sub-Driver

There may be one (possibliy unintended) upside to this. These people may be able to help out their parents that need extra care. Even if they don’t they may be able to physically help them do things, that they may not otherwise have done if they lived out of state. Maybe they may even become closer to their folks. I’d hope that this happens anyway.


8 posted on 03/21/2008 12:11:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Total non-story. Multiple generations of a family living under the same roof has been a norm for people always, everywhere.


9 posted on 03/21/2008 12:11:59 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh to God how I wish my kids would move back in bringing my grandchildren with them. I would love having a couple of strong backs back in the house. Not ot mention the joy of having them and theirs under the same roof. A bit tight, but, well worth the loss of pricacy.


10 posted on 03/21/2008 12:13:15 PM PDT by deuteronlmy232 (Before you have sex outside of marriage read Deuteronomy 23:2)
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To: Lucky9teen
Americans NEVER finish growing up. Bet that kid (albeit 52) took trips at vacation time, had lots of up to the minute electronic toys like an ipod, had a big screen TV and late model car....etc. Also, Americans do NOT know how to live within their means...especially if mom and dad have always been their safety net.
11 posted on 03/21/2008 12:14:42 PM PDT by SMARTY ('At some point you get tired of swatting flies, and you have to go for the manure heap' Gen. LeMay)
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To: Sub-Driver
But now the slumping economy and the credit crunch are forcing some children to do so later in life -- even in middle age.

Of course, it has NOTHING to do with the spending habits of these individuals.

12 posted on 03/21/2008 12:15:30 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Bauer's parents won't take rent money or let her help much with groceries.

Simple solutions:

  1. Go shopping a day earlier than usual and bring home the groceries. Put them away.

  2. Pay one or more of the utility bills.

Our daughter, age 22, has already figured this out. She hasn't even finished college yet. She also does more than her share of household chores, cleaning and such. She's a pleasure to have around.

The parents may not expect such a contribution and wouldn't ask for it, but it is certainly appreciated.

13 posted on 03/21/2008 12:15:36 PM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: trisham

Exactly. For some reason my having (a) a real job, unlike an “events planner”, (b) no debt aside from my car and home, (c) $0.00 credit card debt and (d) just a touch of responsibility for my money is a lifestyle these people can’t fathom.

What a huge manatee.


14 posted on 03/21/2008 12:16:04 PM PDT by TheZMan (I'm going to write my own name on the ballot. Screw the current crop of "conservatives".)
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To: swain_forkbeard

Mary Ellen was hot.

15 posted on 03/21/2008 12:17:39 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (Sure, they'd love to kill me, as long as they can do it without admitting I exist)
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To: swain_forkbeard

Thank you - a move back to a more ‘normal’ society. Perhaps a more rational one as well.

Plenty of good economics with this as well.


16 posted on 03/21/2008 12:18:27 PM PDT by ASOC (I know I don't look like much, but I raised a US Marine!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Parents "jeopardize their financial freedom by continuing to subsidize their children,"

I know quite a few middle age people living with their parents. In all of the cases it is the children who are helping the parents who have become more dependent in their later years. Usually the only thing that the parents contribute to the arrangement is the only thing they own -their home.

17 posted on 03/21/2008 12:18:38 PM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I just spent 10 days staying with my elderly parents. The heat almost killed me. 65 degrees outside, 85 inside.


18 posted on 03/21/2008 12:18:42 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Richard Kimball

Hard to believe, Mary Ellen is 50 years old now.


19 posted on 03/21/2008 12:21:09 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Lucky9teen

There are 5 rules to financial stability:

1 Spend less than you earn.
2 Avoid debt.
3 Build in some liquidity (emergency savings).
4 Have a long term plan
5 Remember it all belongs to God anyway, and you’re only entrusted with a certain amount.

Of course, you can’t buy the latest Playstation/Wii games doing this, nor the McMansion with the 3 BMW’s,

so, what the heck, move back in with your elderly parents.


20 posted on 03/21/2008 12:22:15 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Richard Kimball

Ma Walton looks pretty good in that picture too.

Jeez...I’m gettin old.


21 posted on 03/21/2008 12:23:02 PM PDT by toast
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To: swain_forkbeard

Exactly. My mother often tells stories of her grandparents, who lived with my mother, uncle, and their parents in a 4 bedroom 1 bath house her entire childhood.

And they were the norm in their neighborhood.


22 posted on 03/21/2008 12:24:51 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: swain_forkbeard

“Total non-story. Multiple generations of a family living under the same roof has been a norm for people always, everywhere.”

I agree. It’s totally normal. What is abnormal is our American society of atomized individuals with weak family ties. Would you believe we even have a major presidential candidate who insulted his own grandmother in an attempt to win votes? I swear, I’m not making it up!


23 posted on 03/21/2008 12:25:03 PM PDT by devere
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To: Sub-Driver

Don’t you just love the way they spin this junk? LOL


24 posted on 03/21/2008 12:25:47 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: TheZMan

responsibility should have been taught before. Now it is being taught in the world of hard knocks.
Cry me a river.


25 posted on 03/21/2008 12:26:37 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Sub-Driver

The problem is that parents are living longing.

If they had died in their 60’s she wouldn’t be moving in with them.


26 posted on 03/21/2008 12:26:57 PM PDT by donna (We live in this fog of political correctness, where everything is perpetual deception.-John Hagee)
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To: Sub-Driver
The reporter forgot to mention that it was all Bush's fault....

I really don't see the connection to President Bush.

27 posted on 03/21/2008 12:27:45 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: TheZMan

My apology , reading that after I posted, I am agreeing with you not giving you grief. LOL


28 posted on 03/21/2008 12:27:53 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: deuteronlmy232

Me, too!


29 posted on 03/21/2008 12:28:22 PM PDT by yorkie (The FEW. The PROUD. The MARINES. Semper Fi)
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To: Between the Lines

Three years ago I bought a house with an in-law suite. My parents paid part of the purchase price and it’s where they stay 6 months of the year in the late spring thru early fall before they go to their condo in Florida.

When they’re here they buy the groceries and I pay all the utility bills. When we need a break they take a day or 2 trip to visit friends in the area if they so choose.

It’s a great life, they get to have a lot of quality time with their grandkids, and we all are richer for it.


30 posted on 03/21/2008 12:28:26 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Bush and Cheney read this article, laughing, as they ate live kittens in the secret White House S&M room...


31 posted on 03/21/2008 12:29:16 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Nailbiter

Exactly right; I fall into that category too. I had the credit card bills, 3 loans and all that crap within 3 years of graduating highschool. I learned pretty quick that’s not how I wanted to live and changed it - over the course of 5 years and a couple bounced checks.


32 posted on 03/21/2008 12:29:48 PM PDT by TheZMan (I'm going to write my own name on the ballot. Screw the current crop of "conservatives".)
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To: deuteronlmy232
I have always envied those parents who have a large enough piece of property to build homes for their children next to theirs. I would be wonderful to have my kids and grandkids that close to home.
33 posted on 03/21/2008 12:30:00 PM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: Richard Kimball

Do a google search under Judy Norton-Taylor. She did a playboy spread and there are nude pictures of her all over the internet. Look at your own risk, you may not think she’s too hot anymore. She’s a little chunky and could seriously use some, uh, grooming.


34 posted on 03/21/2008 12:30:46 PM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: yorkie

There are a lot of us I’d bet.


35 posted on 03/21/2008 12:30:50 PM PDT by deuteronlmy232 (Before you have sex outside of marriage read Deuteronomy 23:2)
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To: Sub-Driver

Expect Granma eating dogfood stories for the rest of the year.

Totally predictable.


36 posted on 03/21/2008 12:31:36 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Between the Lines

Hey just add a room, put the grandkids upstairs and your kids in the cellar. Only kidding. Thank God, while we have little money we do have the room.


37 posted on 03/21/2008 12:32:17 PM PDT by deuteronlmy232 (Before you have sex outside of marriage read Deuteronomy 23:2)
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To: Sub-Driver; qam1

I presume most of these types are the hippie Baby Boomers posting on liberal websites.


38 posted on 03/21/2008 12:32:27 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: All

Actually, kids in that age range were typically raised right - to accept responsibility. I think greed may have grabbed hold of a lot of them tho. then caught in the mortgage crunch.


39 posted on 03/21/2008 12:32:41 PM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass... it's learning to dance in the rain)
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To: Sub-Driver

FORCED?

How about an accurate headline: “families support each other during ups and downs, just as they have throughout the ages.”


40 posted on 03/21/2008 12:37:28 PM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - W? No, 'twas Sen. Hillary 9/12/01)
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To: deuteronlmy232

We have been telling our two children since they were in Kindergarten that they are going to graduate from college, get a good career, get married and have kids. (In that order!) They can come back to visit, but not to stay.....AND THEY BETTER FOLLOW THROUGH WITH OUR PLANS!


41 posted on 03/21/2008 12:38:17 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!!)
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To: Lucky9teen
"We have a hard time saying no as a culture to our children, and they keep asking for more."

Sadly, I have seen numerous examples of this: Parents who can't say No and adult children who think they're entitled to raid mom & dad's wallet. It doesn't end until the parents both die. If these "adult-children" have siblings who work and are responsible there is huge amounts of resentment and anger, as well there should be. It's bad bad bad....

42 posted on 03/21/2008 12:39:10 PM PDT by gunservative
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43 posted on 03/21/2008 12:41:11 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: toast

My husband LOVES “the Waltons” and just TiVoed


44 posted on 03/21/2008 12:41:26 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!!)
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To: brwnsuga

They must live close by, many of us whose kids have moved away would love to have them back as long as they came as a family.


45 posted on 03/21/2008 12:41:34 PM PDT by deuteronlmy232 (Before you have sex outside of marriage read Deuteronomy 23:2)
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To: Sub-Driver

There is some of this happening. It might be the retired old folks moving into their child’s house and getting a job to help with the mortgage payments. I know one like that.


46 posted on 03/21/2008 12:44:28 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Sub-Driver

btt


47 posted on 03/21/2008 12:46:37 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Sub-Driver

We’ve got three kids, two 38 & 40, a third 28 serving in the US Army (for 10 years now) and the standing tongue-in-cheek joke was,”With Dad it was Graduation, a wake up and then ‘ou’re outta here!’” LOL!

they’re still out there, they know the rules...


48 posted on 03/21/2008 12:51:12 PM PDT by brushcop (B-Co. 2/69 3rd Infantry Div., "Sledgehammer!" ...and keep hammering 'em!)
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To: TheZMan

I fell into that category myself. Was in my 30’s made bad decision cost me credit card debt, almost lost my job,lost my fathers respect.
Decided was time to grow up, took all hours I could get at job. Payed off credit cards, payed off debt to my father, got my house in order.
Within 3 yrs, was debt free, bought a place.
Started saving money.
My job is in jeopardy now, however I am in position that I can weather storm if needed.
Judging by your post you are younger than I, and learned lesson earlier than I did.
I say good for you and continue on a conservative path, serve you well in long run.


49 posted on 03/21/2008 12:51:14 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Sub-Driver

Don’t forget your towel. Want to get high?


50 posted on 03/21/2008 12:53:10 PM PDT by boomop1
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