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ND: Lesbian priest says she wants license to minister
Boston.com ^ | 3/21/08 | n/a

Posted on 03/21/2008 3:21:55 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim

GRAND FORKS, N.D.—A lesbian priest says she wants to start a dialogue with church leaders after the Episcopal bishop of North Dakota refused her request for a license to minister in the state.

The Rev. Gayle Baldwin, 62, an associate professor of religion at the University of North Dakota, was ordained an Episcopal priest in 1980. She came out as a lesbian a decade ago in Wyoming, where she has a license to preach and administer the sacraments. She came to UND in 2000.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: episcopal; homosexualagenda; playingchurch; religion

1 posted on 03/21/2008 3:21:56 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

Very nice timing, Professor Baldwin. On Good Friday. So nice of you.


2 posted on 03/21/2008 3:24:42 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: kiriath_jearim; Huber; sionnsar

Playing Church ping


3 posted on 03/21/2008 3:24:57 PM PDT by SmithL (Reject Obama's Half-Vast Wright-Wing Conspiracy)
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To: kiriath_jearim
She came out as a lesbian a decade ago in Wyoming, where she has a license to preach and administer the sacraments.

Not good enough!! She has to prove she is also a lesbian in North Dakota.

4 posted on 03/21/2008 3:27:35 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: johniegrad

LOL! You’re ruining it!


5 posted on 03/21/2008 3:28:39 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

For the love of our dear Lord, let us not have pictures.


6 posted on 03/21/2008 3:28:56 PM PDT by JRochelle (Obama & Bob the Builder, "Yes we can!")
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To: kiriath_jearim
Bishop Smith "needs to be challenged," on the issue of denying her a license to do what God called and what the church already has ordained her to do, Baldwin said.

Since "a calling" is such a personal and subjective claim, it seems that it cannot be objectified. Therefore, shouldn't the process of "discernment" really be the church's finding of acceptability to the church of the individual and not the other way around?

7 posted on 03/21/2008 3:34:54 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: JRochelle

OK, but here’s the title of a talk she gave on Rainbow Radio a few years ago:

A Gay Story with a Happy Ending, or, When Gay Folks Get Out of the Boat, Jesus Don’t Let Them Sink by The Rev. Gayle Baldwin (professor of religion at University of North Dakota and former Episcopal priest) (9:30)


8 posted on 03/21/2008 3:36:23 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: kiriath_jearim
You know, you couldn't make this stuff up.

Nobody would believe it.

I am SOOOOOO glad I swam the Tiber to worship with serious Christians, instead of remaining with these loony children playing church . . . .

9 posted on 03/21/2008 3:42:53 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

There are no serious Christians on the other side of the Tiber? Only on your side?


10 posted on 03/21/2008 3:45:05 PM PDT by carton253 (www.headquartersanv.blogspot.com -- for conversations about the Army of Northern Virginia.)
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To: carton253
It's the Episcopalians.

Ichabod.

11 posted on 03/21/2008 3:46:24 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: kiriath_jearim

http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/11085/
I found this interesting...


12 posted on 03/21/2008 3:50:28 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: kiriath_jearim

13 posted on 03/21/2008 3:55:51 PM PDT by SmithL (Reject Obama's Half-Vast Wright-Wing Conspiracy)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Okay... I get it!


14 posted on 03/21/2008 4:08:12 PM PDT by carton253 (www.headquartersanv.blogspot.com -- for conversations about the Army of Northern Virginia.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Repent Professor Baldwin. Jesus died for your sins.


15 posted on 03/21/2008 5:05:21 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour cometh, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: SmithL
On her desk in the pending publication phase is:
"Queering the Priestly Woman." International Journal of Sexuality and Gender Studies.

Great title, Gayle. We'll be holding our breath for the publication date.

16 posted on 03/21/2008 5:10:32 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour cometh, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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To: johniegrad
She has to prove she is also a lesbian in North Dakota.

If so she makes 4 so far.

17 posted on 03/21/2008 5:58:29 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: All

Jesus weeps at the abomination.


18 posted on 03/21/2008 6:10:47 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: carton253
I used to be one.

It's so embarassing. It's worse than having voted for Jimmy Carter.

19 posted on 03/21/2008 6:45:17 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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20 posted on 03/21/2008 7:59:35 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: AnAmericanMother
I used to be one...

An Episcopalian, I hope?

21 posted on 03/21/2008 8:08:13 PM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: gogeo
LOL!!

Yeah, that's what we were talking about, not the other . . . . yikes!

These days it's getting harder to tell the difference, as in the joke, Why can't Episcopalians play chess? They can't tell a bishop from a queen . . . .

22 posted on 03/22/2008 6:47:14 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Sounds more like she’s making demands than requests.


23 posted on 03/24/2008 12:15:34 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: kiriath_jearim

In the Wiccan church?


24 posted on 03/24/2008 12:18:16 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: kiriath_jearim

Gayle Baldwin ...

Interests: Teaching religion in a pluralist society; Contemporary Theologies; Christian theology and Queer Studies; Bakhtin


Select Research:
“From Sole Learning to Soul Learning.” Teaching Theology and Religion. Blackwell. vol. 9 no. 3
(2006), pp. 165-174.

“’What a Difference a Gay Makes!’ : Queering the Magic Negro.” Journal of Religion and Popular Culture, Volume 5, Fall, 2003 (Posted Fall 2004).

North Dakota Quarterly: Kristina K. Groover, ed. Things of the Spirit: Women Writers Constructing Spirituality. Notre Dame: University of Notre Dame Press, 2005, forthcoming, Fall/Winter, 2005)

“Queering the Priestly Woman.” International Journal of Sexuality and Gender Studies, forthcoming.

Self-Publication: Trial edition of Not Your Momma’s Sunday School, text for Religion 100: Introduction to Religious Inquiry, Fall, 2005

Invited Speaker: 5th God & Sexuality Conference, Bard College, April 25-26, 2004
www.godandsexuality.org/gscupdates/gscupdate.html

“And the Bakht Goes On...: the dialogue of silence in Job”, The American Academy of Religion Bakhtin Group, November 2001.

Book Proposal under review:
2005 Baldwin, Gayle R. I Am Whosever: Religion Responses to the Murder of Sakia Gunn. Proposal under peer review for Palgrave/McMillan publishers.


Current Project
My project began two years ago when I began to explore the power of the religious imagination to either blind one from any new things God might want to do, or, if startled enough, become open to new things, new forms, new images. Last summer I spent a month in New York City with the Cross Currents colloquium and focused my project on the murder of Sakia Gunn and the spiritual and responses to that murder.

My present book project, Bone of my Bone, Flesh of my Flesh: Race, Gender, Sexual Orientation and the Parabolic Narrative compares the religious and spiritual responses to the murders of Sakia Gunn and Matthew Shepard.

At the upcoming God and Sexuality seminar at Bard College in April, I will share some original pieces, poems, stories, etc. that come from both of these communities and sketch out some ways I see how these pieces are reflective of the way the religious imagination is shaped by race, gender and other factors.


25 posted on 03/31/2008 11:56:27 AM PDT by iowamark
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